Topic: Columbus Day ... ok I missed it ...
mysticalview21's photo
Sat 10/25/14 04:26 PM
Columbus Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


your thoughts about the text books on this Holiday ...
That most children learn from ...

msharmony's photo
Sat 10/25/14 04:53 PM
I have to look up the quote but the reality is that 'only when lions write history will hunters cease to be heroes'

history books are written with the slant that makes the writer look superior,,,,,,,,

Columbus day kind of celebrates americans(of the non native variety),, as an American holiday

I do think its good form to teach children to be BI HISTORIAL, the way many teach them to be BI LINGUAL

make it a habit for them to view and learn about events from more than just ONE side,,,,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Sat 10/25/14 05:21 PM

Columbus Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


your thoughts about the text books on this Holiday ...
That most children learn from ...


Why is it a holiday in the first place?

mysticalview21's photo
Sun 10/26/14 06:04 PM


Columbus Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


your thoughts about the text books on this Holiday ...
That most children learn from ...


Why is it a holiday in the first place?





becouse Columbus was suppose to be the one that had discoverd America and in the history books for just that ...

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 10/26/14 06:12 PM



Columbus Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


your thoughts about the text books on this Holiday ...
That most children learn from ...


Why is it a holiday in the first place?





becouse Columbus was suppose to be the one that had discoverd America and in the history books for just that ...


In other words, Columbus had a better P.R. person than the Vikings who discovered America first.

Rock's photo
Sun 10/26/14 06:14 PM

Columbus Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


your thoughts about the text books on this Holiday ...
That most children learn from ...


I don't "do" wiki as a source...
However, I think the writers who attribute credit for the discovery of America to Columbus, should have their inner child slapped, repeatedly.

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 10/27/14 12:40 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Mon 10/27/14 12:45 AM
http://bastiat.mises.org/2014/10/christopher-columbus-the-new-world-and-private-property/


Christopher Columbus, The New World, and Private Property
By Ryan McMaken
Tuesday, October 14th, 2014

With the exception of a few ethnic Italian activists, no American appears to actually celebrate Columbus Day anymore (assuming it was ever celebrated in any meaningful sense). And unless you work for a bank or a government agency, you may not even notice it's a holiday at all. Indeed, it's quite possible that Columbus Day would be all but ignored, if it were not for a perennially enraged group of activists who take Columbus's many acts of thievery and murder in the New World and use them to indict people born nearly 500 years after Columbus drew his last breath.

Even in his own day, Columbus was accused of inexcusable brutality, and even his friends had to admit he suffered from extreme vanity, ambition, and a lust to rule over other people. A politician par excellence, he continually lobbied for more and more political power, riches, and favors from the Spanish crown. His record was not impressive, and King Ferdinand refused to grant him the governorship of the West Indies which Columbus so longed for.

His own contemporaries noted with contempt that Columbus presided over the mass murder of the natives, and contrary to the current narrative among anti-Columbus crusaders today, it was hardly European gospel that the natives be treated as unpersons without property rights. Indeed, the natives were regarded by many as having the same rights as all human beings. Being non-European certainly did not bring with it sub-human status, and a papal envoy sent to Peking in the 14th century was not sent to inform the Chinese that they were to surrender all their property.

In fact, this pro-property position was established clearly, at least among the Catholic countries, by 1537 when Pope Paul III issued the papal bull Sublimus Dei which stated that the American natives are rational beings while concluding:

the said Indians and all other people who may later be discovered by Christians, are by no means to be deprived of their liberty or the possession of their property, even though they be outside the faith of Jesus Christ; and that they may and should, freely and legitimately, enjoy their liberty and the possession of their property; nor should they be in any way enslaved; should the contrary happen, it shall be null and have no effect........

mysticalview21's photo
Wed 10/29/14 08:31 AM
Conrad_73 thanks for being so specific ... I do agree should not be a holiday... and taken out of history books that it is ...
when its not true ... becouse I grew up being taught it was and still is today ...