Topic: I am a Muslim atheist
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Wed 02/04/15 02:20 PM

SheikOfLaBroquerie wrote...
No REAL judicial system executes people for having a crime against them... You know that Moe!

Get Real! whoa



mightymoe wrote...
********, and you know it...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/10089270/Iran-amends-law-on-stoning-for-adultery.html

****ing government doing that, don't even try that nonsense with me...


You are both right. There is as much justice in Shariah as there are unicorns in a pineapple.

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Wed 02/04/15 02:21 PM


SheikOfLaBroquerie wrote...
No REAL judicial system executes people for having a crime against them... You know that Moe!

Get Real! whoa



mightymoe wrote...
********, and you know it...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/10089270/Iran-amends-law-on-stoning-for-adultery.html

****ing government doing that, don't even try that nonsense with me...


You are both right. There is as much justice in Shariah as there are unicorns in a pineapple.

and i will not listen to people trying to defend it...

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Wed 02/04/15 02:22 PM
Edited by Pansytilly on Wed 02/04/15 02:24 PM


Titus 3:9 and 1 Corinthians 2:7-9 seems like good follow throughs to 2 Timothy flowerforyou



As for the second reference of verses at 1st Corinthians 2: 7-9...

It's a little off-topic for this group up till now, on account of the fact, they are so hard-pressed to actually believe in anything.

It is certainly a very hopeful thought though!

Thank You!


Thank you for saying so

More thanks for taking the time to read and the thoughtful appreciation of the context it was expressed with :thumbsup:

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Wed 02/04/15 02:30 PM




This is WHY I never use Hadiths.

I don't believe in them because they're just stories


so is Qura'an , it was written by Mohammad with the help of his Christian relative : Waraqa Bin Nawfal .... who was very well educated and versed in main religions at that time .


If the Quran was a composition of Mohammad and this friend You speak of... Why doesn't he/they attribute it to themselves?

to establish a long lasting religion , you have to link it to an immortal idea , or personality , so that the religion will not die with its founder , Mohammad was so smart , no doubt , he knew how to unite all Arabian tribes under his rule (many times by force though) , and created a religion that will keep his fame alive for so long time .... who wouldn't do the same if they had the ability and chance to ?


You ask, "who wouldn't do the same if they had the ability and chance to?"

My reply, 'NOBODY WHO'D CONDONE A LIE !'

If Your only argument is that ALL SCRIPTURE is something forged, then who in good-conscience could propagate it and LIVE it?

Why, would anybody oblige themselves to a lie for the rest of their natural, hopeless, existence?

Think About That!

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Wed 02/04/15 02:32 PM









La Illaha illa Allah, Deucedaaa.


Between making Pop-Corn were You able to read those two small verses?

Haha yes I have, it's lovely! And it does suit to my understanding. But different people will see it differently.


And so, You did read these two verses from the Bible?

Any, Bible on-line will do. (2nd Timothy 3: 16+17)

Yes, i have, honestly, religious verses have always been intended to facilitate a social organization, think of Ancient Greece, religion was basically law
very much still the case in the Middle East . Religion is their criminal judicial system also . Is it not just a religion it is a prescription for more than spiritual life :-)

Good eye blonde :) yeah, but you wouldn't see the government cutting thieves hands for stealing, maybe In Iran they do(they don't I am joking) think of it from a social trend, from a sociologist eye ;)


but they still stone women to death for getting raped...

Do you wonder about what happened to the people who did it, and why, and who are they really! I remember a time when it was a political move, disguised to seize a part of land, oh sorry, to liberate a part of land. And no I am not taking about America, I am talking about internal governmental fights over control. But u wouldn't understand that, nor would you try to follow the story behind it, it's enough for you to support whatever predetermined impression encrypted in you. But you accept it, and i understand that, it's natural to be like that.


what are you babbling about? they kill and beat women to death, quit trying to justify that... sharia law is nothing more than treating women like cattle... do you want references so you can try to explain that away as well? i don't want to hear your justifications on it, it ****ing happens, no matter who you say is responsible...

You think that I am justifying it! I am trying to explain to you that you do not accept the idea that no one in the right mind would be fine with harming another human being in that savage way. But you see the tip of the iceberg and you think you know everything about it /:)
I know many people who think that way, entrapped in their own short reaching minds.

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Wed 02/04/15 02:34 PM










La Illaha illa Allah, Deucedaaa.


Between making Pop-Corn were You able to read those two small verses?

Haha yes I have, it's lovely! And it does suit to my understanding. But different people will see it differently.


And so, You did read these two verses from the Bible?

Any, Bible on-line will do. (2nd Timothy 3: 16+17)

Yes, i have, honestly, religious verses have always been intended to facilitate a social organization, think of Ancient Greece, religion was basically law
very much still the case in the Middle East . Religion is their criminal judicial system also . Is it not just a religion it is a prescription for more than spiritual life :-)

Good eye blonde :) yeah, but you wouldn't see the government cutting thieves hands for stealing, maybe In Iran they do(they don't I am joking) think of it from a social trend, from a sociologist eye ;)


but they still stone women to death for getting raped...

Do you wonder about what happened to the people who did it, and why, and who are they really! I remember a time when it was a political move, disguised to seize a part of land, oh sorry, to liberate a part of land. And no I am not taking about America, I am talking about internal governmental fights over control. But u wouldn't understand that, nor would you try to follow the story behind it, it's enough for you to support whatever predetermined impression encrypted in you. But you accept it, and i understand that, it's natural to be like that.


what are you babbling about? they kill and beat women to death, quit trying to justify that... sharia law is nothing more than treating women like cattle... do you want references so you can try to explain that away as well? i don't want to hear your justifications on it, it ****ing happens, no matter who you say is responsible...

You think that I am justifying it! I am trying to explain to you that you do not accept the idea that no one in the right mind would be fine with harming another human being in that savage way. But you see the tip of the iceberg and you think you know everything about it /:)
I know many people who think that way, entrapped in their own short reaching minds.
oh, bite me... there is no explanation for it, regardless of what you seem to think...

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Wed 02/04/15 02:35 PM









La Illaha illa Allah, Deucedaaa.


Between making Pop-Corn were You able to read those two small verses?

Haha yes I have, it's lovely! And it does suit to my understanding. But different people will see it differently.


And so, You did read these two verses from the Bible?

Any, Bible on-line will do. (2nd Timothy 3: 16+17)

Yes, i have, honestly, religious verses have always been intended to facilitate a social organization, think of Ancient Greece, religion was basically law
very much still the case in the Middle East . Religion is their criminal judicial system also . Is it not just a religion it is a prescription for more than spiritual life :-)

Good eye blonde :) yeah, but you wouldn't see the government cutting thieves hands for stealing, maybe In Iran they do(they don't I am joking) think of it from a social trend, from a sociologist eye ;)


but they still stone women to death for getting raped...

Do you wonder about what happened to the people who did it, and why, and who are they really! I remember a time when it was a political move, disguised to seize a part of land, oh sorry, to liberate a part of land. And no I am not taking about America, I am talking about internal governmental fights over control. But u wouldn't understand that, nor would you try to follow the story behind it, it's enough for you to support whatever predetermined impression encrypted in you. But you accept it, and i understand that, it's natural to be like that.
you talk about media sensationalism and its influence .. The stoning of soraya .. Supposedly a true story of an Iranian women stoned to death .. Accused of infidelity . . She cleaned house for another man and was accused if more than keeping his house free if dust . She was buried in a pit waist deep and the males of the village executed her punishment . Her young son .. A child was made to participate in the stoning . Can you imagine what that must do to a young mind . Any religion which treats children so brutally ensures its evolution . There was no mention of a fight for land .. Only for making women scapegoats for social control . You tell me .. Did any part of this movie represent the truth or was her death an imaginary sensationalism :-)


correction: men are buried to their waists, women are buried to their necks...

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Wed 02/04/15 02:45 PM









La Illaha illa Allah, Deucedaaa.


Between making Pop-Corn were You able to read those two small verses?

Haha yes I have, it's lovely! And it does suit to my understanding. But different people will see it differently.


And so, You did read these two verses from the Bible?

Any, Bible on-line will do. (2nd Timothy 3: 16+17)

Yes, i have, honestly, religious verses have always been intended to facilitate a social organization, think of Ancient Greece, religion was basically law
very much still the case in the Middle East . Religion is their criminal judicial system also . Is it not just a religion it is a prescription for more than spiritual life :-)

Good eye blonde :) yeah, but you wouldn't see the government cutting thieves hands for stealing, maybe In Iran they do(they don't I am joking) think of it from a social trend, from a sociologist eye ;)


but they still stone women to death for getting raped...

Do you wonder about what happened to the people who did it, and why, and who are they really! I remember a time when it was a political move, disguised to seize a part of land, oh sorry, to liberate a part of land. And no I am not taking about America, I am talking about internal governmental fights over control. But u wouldn't understand that, nor would you try to follow the story behind it, it's enough for you to support whatever predetermined impression encrypted in you. But you accept it, and i understand that, it's natural to be like that.
you talk about media sensationalism and its influence .. The stoning of soraya .. Supposedly a true story of an Iranian women stoned to death .. Accused of infidelity . . She cleaned house for another man and was accused if more than keeping his house free if dust . She was buried in a pit waist deep and the males of the village executed her punishment . Her young son .. A child was made to participate in the stoning . Can you imagine what that must do to a young mind . Any religion which treats children so brutally ensures its evolution . There was no mention of a fight for land .. Only for making women scapegoats for social control . You tell me .. Did any part of this movie represent the truth or was her death an imaginary sensationalism :-)


I was actually talking about a different story, I am sorry, I don't know much about this one particularly to comment on it. But it does sound m very inhumane. I was talking about a girl who was stoned to death because supposedly she converted to Islam. But the people who stoned her were the garbage of that society, they were moved by a political party, to show the world that the people who inhabit that area are savage and must be controlled with military forces, in the hidden intent to take over it. These are sad stories that are product of greedy people, puppeteers who would use anything, religion or not, for more power. These incidents cause an impact, the majority are against movements like these.

deucedaaa's photo
Wed 02/04/15 02:45 PM









La Illaha illa Allah, Deucedaaa.


Between making Pop-Corn were You able to read those two small verses?

Haha yes I have, it's lovely! And it does suit to my understanding. But different people will see it differently.


And so, You did read these two verses from the Bible?

Any, Bible on-line will do. (2nd Timothy 3: 16+17)

Yes, i have, honestly, religious verses have always been intended to facilitate a social organization, think of Ancient Greece, religion was basically law
very much still the case in the Middle East . Religion is their criminal judicial system also . Is it not just a religion it is a prescription for more than spiritual life :-)

Good eye blonde :) yeah, but you wouldn't see the government cutting thieves hands for stealing, maybe In Iran they do(they don't I am joking) think of it from a social trend, from a sociologist eye ;)


but they still stone women to death for getting raped...

Do you wonder about what happened to the people who did it, and why, and who are they really! I remember a time when it was a political move, disguised to seize a part of land, oh sorry, to liberate a part of land. And no I am not taking about America, I am talking about internal governmental fights over control. But u wouldn't understand that, nor would you try to follow the story behind it, it's enough for you to support whatever predetermined impression encrypted in you. But you accept it, and i understand that, it's natural to be like that.
you talk about media sensationalism and its influence .. The stoning of soraya .. Supposedly a true story of an Iranian women stoned to death .. Accused of infidelity . . She cleaned house for another man and was accused if more than keeping his house free if dust . She was buried in a pit waist deep and the males of the village executed her punishment . Her young son .. A child was made to participate in the stoning . Can you imagine what that must do to a young mind . Any religion which treats children so brutally ensures its evolution . There was no mention of a fight for land .. Only for making women scapegoats for social control . You tell me .. Did any part of this movie represent the truth or was her death an imaginary sensationalism :-)


I was actually talking about a different story, I am sorry, I don't know much about this one particularly to comment on it. But it does sound m very inhumane. I was talking about a girl who was stoned to death because supposedly she converted to Islam. But the people who stoned her were the garbage of that society, they were moved by a political party, to show the world that the people who inhabit that area are savage and must be controlled with military forces, in the hidden intent to take over it. These are sad stories that are product of greedy people, puppeteers who would use anything, religion or not, for more power. These incidents cause an impact, the majority are against movements like these.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 02/04/15 02:45 PM











La Illaha illa Allah, Deucedaaa.


Between making Pop-Corn were You able to read those two small verses?

Haha yes I have, it's lovely! And it does suit to my understanding. But different people will see it differently.


And so, You did read these two verses from the Bible?

Any, Bible on-line will do. (2nd Timothy 3: 16+17)

Yes, i have, honestly, religious verses have always been intended to facilitate a social organization, think of Ancient Greece, religion was basically law
very much still the case in the Middle East . Religion is their criminal judicial system also . Is it not just a religion it is a prescription for more than spiritual life :-)

Good eye blonde :) yeah, but you wouldn't see the government cutting thieves hands for stealing, maybe In Iran they do(they don't I am joking) think of it from a social trend, from a sociologist eye ;)


but they still stone women to death for getting raped...

Do you wonder about what happened to the people who did it, and why, and who are they really! I remember a time when it was a political move, disguised to seize a part of land, oh sorry, to liberate a part of land. And no I am not taking about America, I am talking about internal governmental fights over control. But u wouldn't understand that, nor would you try to follow the story behind it, it's enough for you to support whatever predetermined impression encrypted in you. But you accept it, and i understand that, it's natural to be like that.
you talk about media sensationalism and its influence .. The stoning of soraya .. Supposedly a true story of an Iranian women stoned to death .. Accused of infidelity . . She cleaned house for another man and was accused if more than keeping his house free if dust . She was buried in a pit waist deep and the males of the village executed her punishment . Her young son .. A child was made to participate in the stoning . Can you imagine what that must do to a young mind . Any religion which treats children so brutally ensures its evolution . There was no mention of a fight for land .. Only for making women scapegoats for social control . You tell me .. Did any part of this movie represent the truth or was her death an imaginary sensationalism :-)


correction: men are buried to their waists, women are buried to their necks...
she was definitely buried to her waist .. Perhaps there was a shortage of stones :-)


or lazy hole diggers...

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Wed 02/04/15 02:46 PM
Hold it Mightymoe... You said these women weren't guilty of anything that are getting stoned-to-death.

But this article is about Adultery!

Yes, the Quran does prescribe stoning for Adultery.

Now, before You reply Mightymoe... I want You to think about this.

If 'Your Wife' (Hypothetical Situation Here) was sleeping with other men, and You'd found out every-one of those whom You thought were Your children was actually somebody else's, and You couldn't figure-out why Your body was so riddled with S.T.D.s, and she was REMORSELESS what would YOU want to do?

********* TAKE YOUR TIME ANSWERING THIS ONE *********

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Wed 02/04/15 02:49 PM

correction: men are buried to their waists, women are buried to their necks...

laugh

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Wed 02/04/15 02:52 PM
i am afraid Mightymoe is about to convert to Islam , he knows so much ... bigsmile

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Wed 02/04/15 02:52 PM
Edited by joethebricky on Wed 02/04/15 02:54 PM

Hold it Mightymoe... You said these women weren't guilty of anything that are getting stoned-to-death.

But this article is about Adultery!

Yes, the Quran does prescribe stoning for Adultery.

Now, before You reply Mightymoe... I want You to think about this.

If 'Your Wife' (Hypothetical Situation Here) was sleeping with other men, and You'd found out every-one of those whom You thought were Your children was actually somebody else's, and You couldn't figure-out why Your body was so riddled with S.T.D.s, and she was REMORSELESS what would YOU want to do?

********* TAKE YOUR TIME ANSWERING THIS ONE *********

Sounds like you're condoning it Sheik, I'm surprised. It's barbaric beyond belief.

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Wed 02/04/15 02:54 PM
Edited by Spidercmb on Wed 02/04/15 02:58 PM

Hold it Mightymoe... You said these women weren't guilty of anything that are getting stoned-to-death.

But this article is about Adultery!

Yes, the Quran does prescribe stoning for Adultery.

Now, before You reply Mightymoe... I want You to think about this.

If 'Your Wife' (Hypothetical Situation Here) was sleeping with other men, and You'd found out every-one of those whom You thought were Your children was actually somebody else's, and You couldn't figure-out why Your body was so riddled with S.T.D.s, and she was REMORSELESS what would YOU want to do?

********* TAKE YOUR TIME ANSWERING THIS ONE *********


Then she should be charged with the following:
* knowingly transmitting an STD for each STD
* Paternity fraud

Conviction on the first would have her listed as a registered sex offender and carry a fine and jail time. Conviction on the second would result in loss of property, jail time and restitution.

Should she be brutally murdered? No, we aren't animals.

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Wed 02/04/15 02:57 PM

Hold it Mightymoe... You said these women weren't guilty of anything that are getting stoned-to-death.

But this article is about Adultery!

Yes, the Quran does prescribe stoning for Adultery.

Now, before You reply Mightymoe... I want You to think about this.

If 'Your Wife' (Hypothetical Situation Here) was sleeping with other men, and You'd found out every-one of those whom You thought were Your children was actually somebody else's, and You couldn't figure-out why Your body was so riddled with S.T.D.s, and she was REMORSELESS what would YOU want to do?

********* TAKE YOUR TIME ANSWERING THIS ONE *********


nothing i could do but chalk it up to my bad decision... i'm not that stupid to let that happen, in any regards... so do not try to justify this to me, sharia law is a weak mans way to control women, no matter what spin you try to put on it... there is no justification for it, there is no right with it...

"rape" is considered adultery in sharia law, and even without being raped, any woman has every right to commit adultery without going to prison or a beating, or dying for it... all sharia law does it take every right away from women, and gives men the power over them because they are weak minded and scared of the woman having a life without them....

now let me ask you this: whats the penalty difference if a man commits adultery under sharia law?

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Wed 02/04/15 03:00 PM

i am afraid Mightymoe is about to convert to Islam , he knows so much ... bigsmile


lol... it's not like i haven't been around lot's of different sects of muslims before... i've heard to much of this nonsense before..

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Wed 02/04/15 03:09 PM


Hold it Mightymoe... You said these women weren't guilty of anything that are getting stoned-to-death.

But this article is about Adultery!

Yes, the Quran does prescribe stoning for Adultery.

Now, before You reply Mightymoe... I want You to think about this.

If 'Your Wife' (Hypothetical Situation Here) was sleeping with other men, and You'd found out every-one of those whom You thought were Your children was actually somebody else's, and You couldn't figure-out why Your body was so riddled with S.T.D.s, and she was REMORSELESS what would YOU want to do?

********* TAKE YOUR TIME ANSWERING THIS ONE *********


Then she should be charged with the following:
* knowingly transmitting an STD for each STD
* Paternity fraud

Conviction on the first would have her listed as a registered sex offender and carry a fine and jail time. Conviction on the second would result in loss of property, jail time and restitution.

Should she be brutally murdered? No, we aren't animals.


So, I'm assuming You're the sort of person who'd never have cause to EXICUTE anybody, no-matter what their crime may be?

And I'm assuming You're quite content to have this person (Upon Having Done Their Jail Time) to go back into society in general and just continue their remorseless, contemptible, endangering, life-style... ? Right?

She'd probably end-up on Your door-step, again! whoa

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Wed 02/04/15 03:13 PM



Hold it Mightymoe... You said these women weren't guilty of anything that are getting stoned-to-death.

But this article is about Adultery!

Yes, the Quran does prescribe stoning for Adultery.

Now, before You reply Mightymoe... I want You to think about this.

If 'Your Wife' (Hypothetical Situation Here) was sleeping with other men, and You'd found out every-one of those whom You thought were Your children was actually somebody else's, and You couldn't figure-out why Your body was so riddled with S.T.D.s, and she was REMORSELESS what would YOU want to do?

********* TAKE YOUR TIME ANSWERING THIS ONE *********


Then she should be charged with the following:
* knowingly transmitting an STD for each STD
* Paternity fraud

Conviction on the first would have her listed as a registered sex offender and carry a fine and jail time. Conviction on the second would result in loss of property, jail time and restitution.

Should she be brutally murdered? No, we aren't animals.


So, I'm assuming You're the sort of person who'd never have cause to EXICUTE anybody, no-matter what their crime may be?

And I'm assuming You're quite content to have this person (Upon Having Done Their Jail Time) to go back into society in general and just continue their remorseless, contemptible, endangering, life-style... ? Right?

She'd probably end-up on Your door-step, again! whoa


and your content with taking her life?

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Wed 02/04/15 03:16 PM



Hold it Mightymoe... You said these women weren't guilty of anything that are getting stoned-to-death.

But this article is about Adultery!

Yes, the Quran does prescribe stoning for Adultery.

Now, before You reply Mightymoe... I want You to think about this.

If 'Your Wife' (Hypothetical Situation Here) was sleeping with other men, and You'd found out every-one of those whom You thought were Your children was actually somebody else's, and You couldn't figure-out why Your body was so riddled with S.T.D.s, and she was REMORSELESS what would YOU want to do?

********* TAKE YOUR TIME ANSWERING THIS ONE *********


Then she should be charged with the following:
* knowingly transmitting an STD for each STD
* Paternity fraud

Conviction on the first would have her listed as a registered sex offender and carry a fine and jail time. Conviction on the second would result in loss of property, jail time and restitution.

Should she be brutally murdered? No, we aren't animals.


So, I'm assuming You're the sort of person who'd never have cause to EXICUTE anybody, no-matter what their crime may be?

And I'm assuming You're quite content to have this person (Upon Having Done Their Jail Time) to go back into society in general and just continue their remorseless, contemptible, endangering, life-style... ? Right?

She'd probably end-up on Your door-step, again! whoa


I believe in redemption, mercy and forgiveness, so I don't really support the death penalty. I believe that everyone should have every opportunity to come to the lord, prisons exist for a reason: to hold criminals.

She would spend her time in prison, which would amount to decades, be released and have a restraining order on her for her victims, just like any other sex offender would. If she ended up on my door-step, it would be a violation of her parole and back to prison with her. This is in a more perfect world, obviously.

A woman's tears and begging has no effect on me, I know that it is manipulation with no real emotion. I can see through it. So even in this imperfect world, I wouldn't piss on such a woman if she was on fire, but I wouldn't wish her dead either.