I agree with the commenter that said men have done enough ****ing with nature.

Why not put the NASA money towards ending poverty in the US as we know it? Everyone should have the right to pursue happiness not only the middle class and above.

****ing with nature is not necessarily a bad thing. The development of vaccines is the pinnacle of our ability to mess around with nature thus far, and it is thanks to it that we almost rid humanity of small pox and measles. It's only because of ignorance and paranoia that measles is starting to make a resurgence.

Screwing around with nature is the only way we can restore eye-sight.


It is only thanks to genetics that we are finally able to produce Spider-Goats.

I was thinking about how men should stop messing up space with all the debris they left there. I guess I agree with the op for somewhat different reasons, but also for the one he stated.

we spend far more on the military than we ever have, looking into space... we need to get off of this rock... ok I need to get off of this rock..
.. you want to start cutting something..
. start with government and military..
.... leave the Nerds alone.. my god I'm not a rocket scientist.... I need these people..... so for the love of everything holy...... . .point Your budget cutting scissors elsewhere... and do do Dave....
. does not have room for me on his ship... ok he probably doesn't want me on his ship.

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"Nazism" has nothing to do with these specific scientific endeavors. You can say Nazis have had an interest in the subject, but the Nazis were a lot of thing. Saying "this is bad cuz Nazis did it" is a HORRIBLE argument, and you're proving exactly why. You can't keep a cool head when you talk about this subject. You see the world in black and white rather than the grey it really is.


Tell me, would you object with people displaying a sanskrit as well? Or perhaps using it as a decorative symbol? If you do, you're not going to have the greatest time in many parts of Asia or many temples in general.




That's actually quite a good point. Although it'd apply moreso to the US than other countries. But yes there are theoretically more than just one place to redirect funding. The question is why do space programs get favoured over grounds that we yet to cover on Earth. Stuff that are a bit closer to our reach.

Hmm. there is a lot of research being conducted here on earth... oceanic research.... for starters.... Teutonic research..... man has looked to the stars ,since the beginning of time..
..... looking for answers..
looking for comfort..
.... looking for guidance...
... it only makes sense to want to go.
. to the place ,you have directed so many conversations to....yes..

The right to pursue happiness does not equal the right to have someone else pay for your pursuit of happiness.

Besides, poverty and the pursuit of happiness are completely separate topics.

Anyway, one project that NASA is working on is finding a way to redirect an asteroid should one threaten to crash into planet Earth and destroy all life as we know it.

Dude calm down. Hitler also ate sugar, should we have a ban on sugar as well?

We've tinkered with DNA multiple times already and have come out with products that benefits everyone. It's a matter of using your common sense. Do you think we simply have Spider-Goats magic itself into existence? No, they were a result of years of research and exploration of how genes work.



The right might not actually be there, but there's certainly merit to use some funds to simply cheer up and help pick the more downtrodden. Would certainly save us more money in the long run as weird as it may sound. Funding some state-sponsored homes to house addicts and such for free in more normal neighbourhoods. There'll be heavy resistance initially but the results will show in a few years.


However that's a topic for another thread.

..hmm. I thought that's what we had you for..
. send you up in your spaceship... you know you . zap the asteroid with your ray thingy...lol

If my space ship could still fly, then do you think that I'd still be on planet Earth?

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Dude, eating sugar is hardly the same thing as the Frankenstein freakery you seem to think is a great idea. Apparently calling you a Nazi because you advocate Nazism is unacceptable. But the fact remains that you are advocating for the same things that Adolf Hitler used to kill and torture millions of people. Are you willing to subject yourself to such experimentation? Somehow, I doubt it. Will you be a guinea pig?

And to say Hitler did some good things doesn't negate the murder of 6 million people. That's like saying Jeffrey Dahmer was a great chef or John Wayne Gacy was a great party clown.

And exactly when and where did I specifically say "Hitler did some good, therefore all his atrocities are negated"?

All I'm trying to point out is that yelling "NAZIS!" is never a good argument against a certain idea. You seem to be under the impression that the killing of millions are for the sake of experimentation and research the research rather than just wild connections.

Hence Hitler ate sugar. The consumption of sugar in their food is something Nazis have done. It is completely different from pursuing scientific endeavors, however the argument holds exactly the same amount of grounds due to it's lapse in logic.

The point is you are advocating the same atrocities that Hitler had done in the name of making the world better. Let's do what Hitler did because he also did some good. That's your argument. Are you willing to volunteer for these experiments?

since when does the government spend all the money on what they say they do? there's a reason for looking for habitable planets, but they ain't telling us why...


BTW, obarrys first order of business was to cut NASA's funding almost completely out...

i agree with what he's saying, the Germans were better at a lot of things they we were at the time... better tanks, better subs, better aircraft, and better tech/engineers as a whole... why do you think the winning governments took as many of the German scientists after the war? their rocket program alone made ours look like kids school projects... most of those same German scientists started NASA, and most all of it was based on their work...

The atrocities they performed was rounding up specific groups, having them labour and executed upon the thousands while others are subjected the painful experimentation. Did I say anything about opening up death camps? Did I say anything about trying to kill of the gypsies?

Even in those experiments Mengele performed, the experiments themselves weren't atrocities, the specific acts in carrying them out were. The methods to begin them, the methods to gather subjects and data. Laws have already been broken long before the experiments even began.





Lastly, volunteer? HOW in the world are most of these (theoretical) experiments supposed to work on a developed organism? Do you seriously think all it takes to create a Spider Goat is to just take a goat and inject it with spider blood? You've missed the goal by a mile if you plan on using a fully developed organism.

So in other words, laws were broken. By those in power. So we can trust that because that's in the past, it won't happen again. And no, of course I won't volunteer. Why should I? I'm the one who wants to do the experiments. And you are still unable to refute that you are advocating in favor of the same Frankenstein freakery that occurred in Nazi Germany. Just because technology has changed in 70 years doesn't mean that it has become ethical.

are you for real,Doctor Moreau?