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Topic: RAPTURE: TRUE OR FALSE?
Toks88's photo
Mon 04/06/15 06:21 PM
Some Christians don’t believe in a coming rapture—some believe in suffering through tribulation and not being raptured—some don’t think it matters if you watch for the rapture or not—well let’s try to sort this all out.
So here we go…

The rapture of the church to come—is not the first rapture—take a moment and go to your Bible and look up Enoch who was raptured alive—Ezekiel who was taken up alive in a whirlwind, and CHRIST WHO ascended to heaven: “rapture” events. So “rapture” concept is ALIVE—and well so-to-speak.

The truth whether people like it or not is that GOD is about “warning”—“redemption and restoration”—“salvation and rescue.” HE is not going to just prove this at the time of the rapture of the church—HE has already proven it previously. It is HIS very nature to WARN—redeem and restore those who want to be redeemed and restored and to rescue and save.

Let’s think about this concept:
GOD is about WARNING people: HE WARNED: Pharaoh; Nineveh; the Israelites; Adam and Eve; the Jews: Pharisees as well; Abraham; Noah; Disciples; Apostle Paul; the seven churches in Revelation; and us. He sends prophets and other messengers—human and angelic.

GOD is about redemption and restoration: Noah; Abraham; John the Baptist; Jeremiah; Isaiah; Jonah; CHRIST were all those who pleaded with people to repent, turn to GOD and to be redeemed and restored before it was too late. GOD IS STILL PLEADING TODAY WITH THE LOST TO REPENT AND SEEK REDEMPTION before it is too late.

GOD is about SALVATION and RESCUE: parting of the red sea; Noah’s ark; Salvation of Nineveh; Joseph saving of HIS people during famine in Egypt; Esther saving her people from destruction in Persia; CHRIST DYING ON THE CROSS TO SAVE US ALL—and the RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH—GOD’S NEXT GREATEST RESCUE MISSION.
If you don’t want to believe in rapture—this is your coming fate (because GOD won’t force anyone’s hand and deciding there is no rapture is a choice):

Revelation 20:4(KJV): And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of JESUS, and for the word of GOD, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with CHRIST a thousand years.

And if you don’t want to believe that GOD’s nature is to WARN—REDEEM—RESCUE even today’s generation then you will be living a self-fulfilling prophecy: YOU won’t be raptured because WATCHING for the event IS a REQUIREMENT to be “raptured.” Luke 21:36 (KJV): WATCH ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the SON of man.

Why is the “WATCHING FOR RAPTURE” so significant to GOD’s plan of redemption versus the plan of NO RAPTURE DOCTRINE AND NO WATCHING FOR IT?

HAS IT HIT YOU YET?—well the reason is GOD HAS SET THE WHOLE THEME TO “WATCH” FOR HIS RAPTURE RESCUE—because people who believe in rapture BELIEVE in WATCHING and “BEING READY AT ALL TIMES—COME WHAT MAY”: and believe me things come: look at the crisis in THESE COUNTRIES ALONE: SRI LANKA; PHILIPPIANS; CHILE; JAPAN; HAITI.

Now if you are NOT “INTO” the watching for the rapture and you are into the “NO NEED TO WATCH—WE ARE GOING THROUGH TRIBULATION” thing—then YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF URGENCY—not like the people looking for rapture—and so when people leave the planet whether it be death; disaster; or rapture—they are either spiritually ready or they are not sitting on the edge of their seats waiting or watching for anything. How often might that happen? A lot because the Bible says the road to hell is BROAD and MANY GO THERE. So below are the scriptural references that show there are two distinct events: rapture and the second coming when the bride of Christ who was raptured returns with CHRIST. Also if you are looking for scriptural references to the rapture—go to any search engine and enter the words: “rapture scripture” and see all that comes up both OT & NT.

NOW HERE IS ONE OF MY PERSONAL ALL-TIME FAVORITE RAPTURE VERSES: 1 Corinthians 15:52: In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

I have yet to figure out how 1 Corinthians 15:52 can apply to any other scenario but to the RAPTURE of the church.

As for me: I vote for the “twinkling of an eye” event and the GOD WHOSE NATURE IS TO WARN—REDEEM—RESCUE.

RAPTURE Vs. SECOND COMING in the Scriptures: Two Separate Events:
RAPTURE: the Rescue of the True Church to Safety to be with CHRIST
AND The SECOND COMING: The Return of the True Church to Earth WITH CHRIST WHO will finally deal with the evil on Earth.
Scriptural clarity:

Rapture
1. The church will meet Christ in the Air (1 Thes. 4:17)

Second Coming
The church will return to the earth with Christ (Zech. 14:4)

Rapture
2. The church will be taken to heaven (1 Thes. 4:17; John 14: 1-3)

Second Coming
The church will return to the earth from heaven (Jude 14; Matt. 25:31)

Rapture
3. Christ will come for His saints (2 Thes. 2:1, Thes. 4:13-18)

Second Coming
Christ will come with His Saints (Rev. 19:14)

Rapture
4. Seen only by believers (1 Cor. 15:51-52)

Second Coming
Every eye will see HIM (Rev. 1:7; 19:11-16; Matt. 24:30)

Rapture
5. Christ Himself will gather the saints (1 Thes. 4:16)

Second Coming
The angels will gather the elect (Matt. 24:31)

Rapture
6. Believers will be caught up out from among unbelievers (1 Thes. 4:16-17)

Second Coming
Unbelievers (tares) will be gathered out first (Matt. 14:41-43)

Rapture
7. Satan will not be bound (Rev. 13:2)

Second Coming
Satan will be bound (Rev. 20:1-3)

Rapture
8. The righteous will be removed (1 Thes. 4:17)

Second Coming
The wicked will be removed (Matt. 25:40-41)

Rapture
9. Earth not judged

Second Coming
Earth judged (Rev. 20:4-5)

Rapture
10. A Mystery (1 Cor. 15:51)

Second Coming
Foretold in Old Testament (Dan. 12:1-3; Zech. 12:10; 14:1-4)

leo0077's photo
Tue 04/07/15 10:24 AM
Not true no rapture.
Study and understand.
Start with the meaning of "rapture"

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Tue 04/07/15 10:30 AM
True for those who believe and no for those who do not believe.

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Tue 04/07/15 10:32 AM
Bu as for me I do believe that there is a rapture.

jenac1966's photo
Tue 04/07/15 11:06 AM
Well I know Jesus is coming soon. Yes I know they have been saying that for years, but I do feel His coming is near for a lot of reasons that did not show up before (blood red moons, etc). I personally am very excited!

Toks88's photo
Wed 04/08/15 06:40 PM
Elijah was taken up by a whirlwind rather.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 04/08/15 07:01 PM

Some Christians don’t believe in a coming rapture—some believe in suffering through tribulation and not being raptured—some don’t think it matters if you watch for the rapture or not—well let’s try to sort this all out.
So here we go…

The rapture of the church to come—is not the first rapture—take a moment and go to your Bible and look up Enoch who was raptured alive—Ezekiel who was taken up alive in a whirlwind, and CHRIST WHO ascended to heaven: “rapture” events. So “rapture” concept is ALIVE—and well so-to-speak.

The truth whether people like it or not is that GOD is about “warning”—“redemption and restoration”—“salvation and rescue.” HE is not going to just prove this at the time of the rapture of the church—HE has already proven it previously. It is HIS very nature to WARN—redeem and restore those who want to be redeemed and restored and to rescue and save.

Let’s think about this concept:
GOD is about WARNING people: HE WARNED: Pharaoh; Nineveh; the Israelites; Adam and Eve; the Jews: Pharisees as well; Abraham; Noah; Disciples; Apostle Paul; the seven churches in Revelation; and us. He sends prophets and other messengers—human and angelic.

GOD is about redemption and restoration: Noah; Abraham; John the Baptist; Jeremiah; Isaiah; Jonah; CHRIST were all those who pleaded with people to repent, turn to GOD and to be redeemed and restored before it was too late. GOD IS STILL PLEADING TODAY WITH THE LOST TO REPENT AND SEEK REDEMPTION before it is too late.

GOD is about SALVATION and RESCUE: parting of the red sea; Noah’s ark; Salvation of Nineveh; Joseph saving of HIS people during famine in Egypt; Esther saving her people from destruction in Persia; CHRIST DYING ON THE CROSS TO SAVE US ALL—and the RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH—GOD’S NEXT GREATEST RESCUE MISSION.
If you don’t want to believe in rapture—this is your coming fate (because GOD won’t force anyone’s hand and deciding there is no rapture is a choice):

Revelation 20:4(KJV): And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of JESUS, and for the word of GOD, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with CHRIST a thousand years.

And if you don’t want to believe that GOD’s nature is to WARN—REDEEM—RESCUE even today’s generation then you will be living a self-fulfilling prophecy: YOU won’t be raptured because WATCHING for the event IS a REQUIREMENT to be “raptured.” Luke 21:36 (KJV): WATCH ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the SON of man.

Why is the “WATCHING FOR RAPTURE” so significant to GOD’s plan of redemption versus the plan of NO RAPTURE DOCTRINE AND NO WATCHING FOR IT?

HAS IT HIT YOU YET?—well the reason is GOD HAS SET THE WHOLE THEME TO “WATCH” FOR HIS RAPTURE RESCUE—because people who believe in rapture BELIEVE in WATCHING and “BEING READY AT ALL TIMES—COME WHAT MAY”: and believe me things come: look at the crisis in THESE COUNTRIES ALONE: SRI LANKA; PHILIPPIANS; CHILE; JAPAN; HAITI.

Now if you are NOT “INTO” the watching for the rapture and you are into the “NO NEED TO WATCH—WE ARE GOING THROUGH TRIBULATION” thing—then YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF URGENCY—not like the people looking for rapture—and so when people leave the planet whether it be death; disaster; or rapture—they are either spiritually ready or they are not sitting on the edge of their seats waiting or watching for anything. How often might that happen? A lot because the Bible says the road to hell is BROAD and MANY GO THERE. So below are the scriptural references that show there are two distinct events: rapture and the second coming when the bride of Christ who was raptured returns with CHRIST. Also if you are looking for scriptural references to the rapture—go to any search engine and enter the words: “rapture scripture” and see all that comes up both OT & NT.

NOW HERE IS ONE OF MY PERSONAL ALL-TIME FAVORITE RAPTURE VERSES: 1 Corinthians 15:52: In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

I have yet to figure out how 1 Corinthians 15:52 can apply to any other scenario but to the RAPTURE of the church.

As for me: I vote for the “twinkling of an eye” event and the GOD WHOSE NATURE IS TO WARN—REDEEM—RESCUE.

RAPTURE Vs. SECOND COMING in the Scriptures: Two Separate Events:
RAPTURE: the Rescue of the True Church to Safety to be with CHRIST
AND The SECOND COMING: The Return of the True Church to Earth WITH CHRIST WHO will finally deal with the evil on Earth.
Scriptural clarity:

Rapture
1. The church will meet Christ in the Air (1 Thes. 4:17)

Second Coming
The church will return to the earth with Christ (Zech. 14:4)

Rapture
2. The church will be taken to heaven (1 Thes. 4:17; John 14: 1-3)

Second Coming
The church will return to the earth from heaven (Jude 14; Matt. 25:31)

Rapture
3. Christ will come for His saints (2 Thes. 2:1, Thes. 4:13-18)

Second Coming
Christ will come with His Saints (Rev. 19:14)

Rapture
4. Seen only by believers (1 Cor. 15:51-52)

Second Coming
Every eye will see HIM (Rev. 1:7; 19:11-16; Matt. 24:30)

Rapture
5. Christ Himself will gather the saints (1 Thes. 4:16)

Second Coming
The angels will gather the elect (Matt. 24:31)

Rapture
6. Believers will be caught up out from among unbelievers (1 Thes. 4:16-17)

Second Coming
Unbelievers (tares) will be gathered out first (Matt. 14:41-43)

Rapture
7. Satan will not be bound (Rev. 13:2)

Second Coming
Satan will be bound (Rev. 20:1-3)

Rapture
8. The righteous will be removed (1 Thes. 4:17)

Second Coming
The wicked will be removed (Matt. 25:40-41)

Rapture
9. Earth not judged

Second Coming
Earth judged (Rev. 20:4-5)

Rapture
10. A Mystery (1 Cor. 15:51)

Second Coming
Foretold in Old Testament (Dan. 12:1-3; Zech. 12:10; 14:1-4)



The rapture and the second coming are simultaneous. The rapture in itself is an incident that happens DURING the second coming. Because there has to be a second coming before there can be a rapture as it is Jesus our God himself that comes down and takes up the dead and the living that were in him for them to rise to Heaven and miss the tribulations that are to proceed on Earth.

1st Thessalonians

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


Toks88's photo
Wed 04/08/15 07:24 PM


Some Christians don’t believe in a coming rapture—some believe in suffering through tribulation and not being raptured—some don’t think it matters if you watch for the rapture or not—well let’s try to sort this all out.
So here we go…

The rapture of the church to come—is not the first rapture—take a moment and go to your Bible and look up Enoch who was raptured alive—Ezekiel who was taken up alive in a whirlwind, and CHRIST WHO ascended to heaven: “rapture” events. So “rapture” concept is ALIVE—and well so-to-speak.

The truth whether people like it or not is that GOD is about “warning”—“redemption and restoration”—“salvation and rescue.” HE is not going to just prove this at the time of the rapture of the church—HE has already proven it previously. It is HIS very nature to WARN—redeem and restore those who want to be redeemed and restored and to rescue and save.

Let’s think about this concept:
GOD is about WARNING people: HE WARNED: Pharaoh; Nineveh; the Israelites; Adam and Eve; the Jews: Pharisees as well; Abraham; Noah; Disciples; Apostle Paul; the seven churches in Revelation; and us. He sends prophets and other messengers—human and angelic.

GOD is about redemption and restoration: Noah; Abraham; John the Baptist; Jeremiah; Isaiah; Jonah; CHRIST were all those who pleaded with people to repent, turn to GOD and to be redeemed and restored before it was too late. GOD IS STILL PLEADING TODAY WITH THE LOST TO REPENT AND SEEK REDEMPTION before it is too late.

GOD is about SALVATION and RESCUE: parting of the red sea; Noah’s ark; Salvation of Nineveh; Joseph saving of HIS people during famine in Egypt; Esther saving her people from destruction in Persia; CHRIST DYING ON THE CROSS TO SAVE US ALL—and the RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH—GOD’S NEXT GREATEST RESCUE MISSION.
If you don’t want to believe in rapture—this is your coming fate (because GOD won’t force anyone’s hand and deciding there is no rapture is a choice):

Revelation 20:4(KJV): And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of JESUS, and for the word of GOD, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with CHRIST a thousand years.

And if you don’t want to believe that GOD’s nature is to WARN—REDEEM—RESCUE even today’s generation then you will be living a self-fulfilling prophecy: YOU won’t be raptured because WATCHING for the event IS a REQUIREMENT to be “raptured.” Luke 21:36 (KJV): WATCH ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the SON of man.

Why is the “WATCHING FOR RAPTURE” so significant to GOD’s plan of redemption versus the plan of NO RAPTURE DOCTRINE AND NO WATCHING FOR IT?

HAS IT HIT YOU YET?—well the reason is GOD HAS SET THE WHOLE THEME TO “WATCH” FOR HIS RAPTURE RESCUE—because people who believe in rapture BELIEVE in WATCHING and “BEING READY AT ALL TIMES—COME WHAT MAY”: and believe me things come: look at the crisis in THESE COUNTRIES ALONE: SRI LANKA; PHILIPPIANS; CHILE; JAPAN; HAITI.

Now if you are NOT “INTO” the watching for the rapture and you are into the “NO NEED TO WATCH—WE ARE GOING THROUGH TRIBULATION” thing—then YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF URGENCY—not like the people looking for rapture—and so when people leave the planet whether it be death; disaster; or rapture—they are either spiritually ready or they are not sitting on the edge of their seats waiting or watching for anything. How often might that happen? A lot because the Bible says the road to hell is BROAD and MANY GO THERE. So below are the scriptural references that show there are two distinct events: rapture and the second coming when the bride of Christ who was raptured returns with CHRIST. Also if you are looking for scriptural references to the rapture—go to any search engine and enter the words: “rapture scripture” and see all that comes up both OT & NT.

NOW HERE IS ONE OF MY PERSONAL ALL-TIME FAVORITE RAPTURE VERSES: 1 Corinthians 15:52: In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

I have yet to figure out how 1 Corinthians 15:52 can apply to any other scenario but to the RAPTURE of the church.

As for me: I vote for the “twinkling of an eye” event and the GOD WHOSE NATURE IS TO WARN—REDEEM—RESCUE.

RAPTURE Vs. SECOND COMING in the Scriptures: Two Separate Events:
RAPTURE: the Rescue of the True Church to Safety to be with CHRIST
AND The SECOND COMING: The Return of the True Church to Earth WITH CHRIST WHO will finally deal with the evil on Earth.
Scriptural clarity:

Rapture
1. The church will meet Christ in the Air (1 Thes. 4:17)

Second Coming
The church will return to the earth with Christ (Zech. 14:4)

Rapture
2. The church will be taken to heaven (1 Thes. 4:17; John 14: 1-3)

Second Coming
The church will return to the earth from heaven (Jude 14; Matt. 25:31)

Rapture
3. Christ will come for His saints (2 Thes. 2:1, Thes. 4:13-18)

Second Coming
Christ will come with His Saints (Rev. 19:14)

Rapture
4. Seen only by believers (1 Cor. 15:51-52)

Second Coming
Every eye will see HIM (Rev. 1:7; 19:11-16; Matt. 24:30)

Rapture
5. Christ Himself will gather the saints (1 Thes. 4:16)

Second Coming
The angels will gather the elect (Matt. 24:31)

Rapture
6. Believers will be caught up out from among unbelievers (1 Thes. 4:16-17)

Second Coming
Unbelievers (tares) will be gathered out first (Matt. 14:41-43)

Rapture
7. Satan will not be bound (Rev. 13:2)

Second Coming
Satan will be bound (Rev. 20:1-3)

Rapture
8. The righteous will be removed (1 Thes. 4:17)

Second Coming
The wicked will be removed (Matt. 25:40-41)

Rapture
9. Earth not judged

Second Coming
Earth judged (Rev. 20:4-5)

Rapture
10. A Mystery (1 Cor. 15:51)

Second Coming
Foretold in Old Testament (Dan. 12:1-3; Zech. 12:10; 14:1-4)



The rapture and the second coming are simultaneous. The rapture in itself is an incident that happens DURING the second coming. Because there has to be a second coming before there can be a rapture as it is Jesus our God himself that comes down and takes up the dead and the living that were in him for them to rise to Heaven and miss the tribulations that are to proceed on Earth.

1st Thessalonians

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.




Hallelujah!!!

Oriental314's photo
Thu 04/09/15 03:41 AM
No RAPTURE!!you're deceived if you're believing in RAPTURE..it is just a theory and nowhere in the bible you can find this word..moreover,why was Jesus asked God to protect us if there's a rapture?
Please read your bible slowly and carefully.

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Thu 04/09/15 11:55 AM
Edited by Redbutterfly098 on Thu 04/09/15 11:59 AM

No RAPTURE!!you're deceived if you're believing in RAPTURE..it is just a theory and nowhere in the bible you can find this word..moreover,why was Jesus asked God to protect us if there's a rapture?
Please read your bible slowly and carefully.

We are not deceived because we believe on it. The scripture is above you clearly written in the Bible and it was not a theory.

Oriental314's photo
Thu 04/09/15 03:48 PM
Please don't read more out of the context...so why Jesus come rapture his church then come back 3.5 years later to gather his saint..and the bible said when Jesus come all eyes will see not just some particular group of people.

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 04/09/15 05:01 PM

Please don't read more out of the context...so why Jesus come rapture his church then come back 3.5 years later to gather his saint..and the bible said when Jesus come all eyes will see not just some particular group of people.


Oh when Jesus returns EVERYBODY will see him. He's not coming back as passive as last time bringing love, hope, and direction. No, the next time will be for our judgement on our lives.

Toks88's photo
Thu 04/09/15 05:36 PM

Please don't read more out of the context...so why Jesus come rapture his church then come back 3.5 years later to gather his saint..and the bible said when Jesus come all eyes will see not just some particular group of people.


Yes, all eyes will see JESUS when HE comes the second time

Revelation 1:7. Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
8. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Let no one deceive you. The rapture is so near than we expect. So try all possible best to get yourself prepared before it will be too late.

The first event prophet Isaiah prophesied about has come and gone and that was the birth of JESUS CHRIST. Prophet Isaiah also prophesied many Supernatural things about HIM.
Isaiah 7:14. Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Blessed Virgin Mary was chosen to fulfill the prophecy of the birth of JESUS CHRIST. And when the angel came to announced the information to Mary, she believed God.
Luke 1:26-38.

The second event also has come and gone, and that was the crucifixion and resurrection of JESUS CHRIST which we the believers celebrated few days ago. (Matthew 1:21).
And as He was returning to the FATHER after HE have arose, He promised HE's going to come again to take us home with HIM (John 14: 1-3). So get yourself prepared for HE is coming very sooner than we think it's gonna appear.

The rapture and the second coming which can at anytime take place any moment from now is the event we are waiting for and we have seen a lot of signs and wonders that shows the time is at hand and ripe.
THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU!

Oriental314's photo
Fri 04/10/15 12:41 AM
I'm completely and 100%with you guys on Jesus second coming because I myself looking forward to that time and if you're truly walk with Jesus then when He comes you will be with Him just as He promised,so why worry about the rapture?

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Fri 04/10/15 01:05 AM

I'm completely and 100%with you guys on Jesus second coming because I myself looking forward to that time and if you're truly walk with Jesus then when He comes you will be with Him just as He promised,so why worry about the rapture?

I never been worried to rapture because i am very much happy waiting for that time. I do understand you because i know that there are some organization or sector who doesn't believe on it.smile

Oriental314's photo
Fri 04/10/15 02:21 AM
Edited by Oriental314 on Fri 04/10/15 02:23 AM

Quote:

I never been worried to rapture because i am very much happy waiting for that time. I do understand you because i know that there are some organization or sector who doesn't believe on it.smile





you're such a nice person..so which organization or sector are you that believing in the rapture?.i have not found one for me yet.I'm just following according to the Bible.

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Fri 04/10/15 03:47 AM


Quote:

I never been worried to rapture because i am very much happy waiting for that time. I do understand you because i know that there are some organization or sector who doesn't believe on it.smile





you're such a nice person..so which organization or sector are you that believing in the rapture?.i have not found one for me yet.I'm just following according to the Bible.
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Thank you. I am under Pentecostal and we are also following the bible.smile. Everyone of us has it's own understanding. No body here is forcing others to believe on what they believed. These is a bible sharing so the best we do is to read the bible and let the holy spirit lead us to the correct understanding.smile God bliss!

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Fri 04/10/15 04:01 AM

No RAPTURE!!you're deceived if you're believing in RAPTURE..it is just a theory and nowhere in the bible you can find this word..moreover,why was Jesus asked God to protect us if there's a rapture?
Please read your bible slowly and carefully.


This. :angel:

Toks88's photo
Fri 04/10/15 08:26 AM

I'm completely and 100%with you guys on Jesus second coming because I myself looking forward to that time and if you're truly walk with Jesus then when He comes you will be with Him just as He promised,so why worry about the rapture?


Thanks very much and GOD BLESS YOU! I'm not worried but watchful and careful about my life, and i remind others to be watchful and careful about their lives. JESUS Himself took it serious when He was teaching.
Luke 21:34. And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35. For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

The Bible made us to know that there will be great tribulations after the rapture Matthew 24:21,29,30, and we should be watchful and ready.
Matthew 24:42. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Toks88's photo
Sat 04/11/15 07:37 AM
THE RAPTURE WOULD HAVE HAPPENED 3 DAYS AGO
9/4/15. Racheal Mushala.

Zipporah and I were praying this evening.
Then when we were praying,The Lord Jesus Christ came.
There were countless angels in the room,including angel Michael and Gabriel and some other angels whose names we don't know.
The angels began to part,giving way to the King of glory as He approached.
The Lord Jesus Christ was very sad,He was crying.
He showed Zipporah what happened in heaven two days ago.
God gave a command to an angel to blow the last trumpet.

When the angel was about to blow it,Jesus looked at the earth,He saw fornication,adultery,wickedness,people not even paying attention to God.
When Jesus saw that,He rushed to the feet of the Father,fell down and began weeping,pleading for more time.
He said,"they are not ready."
Jesus was weeping so much.
The Father was so pitiful on the world,but He said time is up,He is fed up of postponing.
Then He said to the angel,"Halt!"
The angel didn't blow the trumpet but remained at the same position.
Jesus then said the rapture was supposed to happen two days ago (Tuesday).
Jesus was weeping,He was saying,"what kind of hearts are these?iron hearts?"
He said if He had come two days ago,many people would have been left behind,including some of our family.
Jesus said today would have been a day in the great tribulation if He had not beeged the Father.
He was weeping so much.
Jesus was looking at the whole earth,I could see the whole earth and Jesus was looking at it weeping.
He said,"Oh My children,come to Me now,the tribulation will be so horrible.Come to Me now."
"I promised not to leave or forsake you but why have you left me?"
He said,"My heart grieves because My children have forsaken Me."
Then Jesus showed us a woman,painted,with fake eye lashes,painted eye lids,etc.
She was in midair,sitting.
Jesus said she is an evil spirit,the queen of the coast and has captured many men of God.
He said she has exalted herself above anything called holy.
She held an invisible net and used it to trap preachers who fell into her trap.
Jesus said she has done this to many men of God through their wives and they began to compromise.
Repent for the time is at hand.Jesus is weeping for you.

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