YOU going after death?
And Why?
Christians are telling me that I’m going to hell because I don’t share their beliefs.
But there is no chance for me going to a place I don’t even believe in.
I believe that we ( our spirits ) come from the same source. There we linger and mix until a task is found for a part of us.
So part of this universal spirit finds a body, gives it life and stays there until the task is done.
Since the spirits all come from the same place, have mixed and divided themselves into different spirits, we will always meet people that have part of the same spirits as ourselves. These are our soul mates. We recognize them as part of our own spirit, as part of our own selves. It pleases me to think that spiritually I am related to people like Abra, ArtGurl, voileazur, Redykeulous, and others. By the same token I have to accept that parts of my spirit are related to others that I can’t relate to too easily.
However, after the task, whatever it was, is done, the spirit leaves the chosen body ( death ) and returns to the universal place.
There is no heaven or hell, just the essence of ALL……purity……LIGHT.

I can't imagine anything worse than dying and "waking up" with a bunch of sanctimonious christians in heaven!

Send me somewhere nice and warm, where all the bad girls go.

well, as far as the topic of heaven or hell, im NOBODY to tell ANYBODY where they're going. the only thing i can do, is try and convince them, with love, to see the truth. and most of these other ppl that "CLAIM" to be Christians, contradict the teaching of the Bible, and are the main cause for Atheism, and ppl turning to other religions. and it ruins things for me as far as winning souls. but like I said, im nobody to tell you, invisible, or anyone else that you are going to hell, OR heaven for that matter. all i can do is pray for u, and hope that u find this wonderful truth in the love of Christ one day. but, the choice to live a holy Christian life is up to you, and ONLY you. nobody can make u, and the more ppl try, the more it pushes ppl away.

we Christians are not God, and we are not entitled or allowed in ANY way whatsoever to tell the world they're going to hell because they dont live the life we're supposed to live ourselves and dont half the time anyway. the most we can do, is relay the message of Christ as in the Bible, WITH LOVE, and pray, and hope that they seek God for themselves and that He reveals Himself in a might mighty way.

MrRight,
I hear you.
As paperwork is concerned I belong to the Lutheranian church, but I gave up on Christianity a long time ago. I learned as a child that there is too much hypocrisy and bigotry in Christianity. By watching and observing nature I found my true path.

I really don't get out that much as I used to. Usually I am going to work or coming home. Along the way I might catch a yardsale or a meeting some nights. Sometimes I run out of food or have to pay bills. I plan on retiring after I die if I can afford it. My dad said I should have stayed in the military and then I could of retired at 37. He worked till the day he died.

Roy!!!!

The question was after, not until.

Personally I am gonna stick around after I kick off and haunt some people

I like that concept, Jenni

I think mine is pretty close though

I would have to see how much haunting pays. I really haven't done that much volunteer work. Do ghosts have unions?

No pay no union..nada..you haunt just because you can

I have had to always work for a living. Maybe when a person dies they don't have to work any more. Hmm, wow, imagine not working any more. That must be heaven.

well, Invisible, you said that you gave up on Christianity because there is too much hypocrisy? was it the people that claimed to be Christians that was where the hypocrisy part comes from?

bellybluff wrote:

I can't imagine anything worse than dying and "waking up" with a bunch of sanctimonious christians in heaven!

people like this individual are the ones who make these forums, so unconfortable.
if u r not a christian perfect, as far as i'm concern u can believe in pigs flying, but why the insult to an entire class of people.

Well, MrRight,
A Pastor telling me that he can't give a Christmas parcel to an old man because he didn't come to the service for a year because of circumstance, and telling me he can't give me my confirmation because of the people I hung out with should be plenty enough to go around.

Mr.Right makes good points:

As christians we should not tell anybody where they are going.
Myself as christian try to win heaven loving my brothers and sisters the way they are, even if they are not christian.
The extreme right of the christianism, as Mrright said, is the cause of too many being so reluctant to listen the message of our Lord.
which is not at all the fact that some are going to hell and others to heaven.
I believe that as long as we have a clean heart all of us are going to the same place.

Andrea:

I believe we can't judge a faith for some extremists.
we need to judge that faith in a case by case basis.

Miguel,
My good friend,
I did.
Otherwise you would not be one of my favourite friends.
But I have decided that Christianity is not for me, that the place I'm going to after death suits me much more than your heaven, or your hell for that matter.
It doesn't stop me from loving you.

as i said in my prior thread is not for me to tell u where u r going
i just have to love u as u r.

Miguel,
That might be the difference between you and me.
You say:
i just have to love u as u r.

I say:
I love you

You see the difference in those two?

i'll use a word that abra likes, SEMANTICS
yeah, i see the difference
and u have a point there