Now I know to buy you IBC root beer whenever we are on our first date.

We had better get back to the original topic before someone yells at us to get a room.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA good one alle

So, what is wrong with saying that all lives matter?
Also, what is wrong with saying that black lives matter?

logically speaking, nothing 'wrong' about either saying,,,

all lives do matter, but if a white man would have done what this black girl did and beat her up and injured her baby, it would be news coverage24/7. whith "BLACK LIVES MATTER" black girl does it to white woman, and it barely gets reported.

you do see the difference between a MAN and a girl? right


girl fights happen all the time, rarely do any of them cause any outrage or go without criminal consequences,,,

thats not the point, if a white girl did that to a blak girl, the media would be screaming HATE CRIME HATE CRIME, but if a black girl does it to a while girl, its just a harmless fight.

thats beyond insane

the media is covering confederate flags, a mass killing of adults by an adult in a church, and police brutality against unarmed citizens, but a girlfight between teens is going to get mass coverage?

where do you live again?

interracial crime is not automatically a HATE CRIME,, certainly girl fights are driven by all types of teen drama that has little to do with race

a HATE CRIME has to have an element of motivation BASED in bigotry, ,,,not personal altercations,,,

ok

Maybe 'they' aren't one single organism with a single shared mind distributed through millions of bodies?

Maybe a group of black (and white) people believe that our society doesn't value black lives enough - while _another_ set of black (and white) people have a criminal disregard for the value other people's lives.

The fact that violent black crime exists doesn't invalidate any of the messages of the 'black lives matter' movement.




For too many people, yes, this is true. There are _some_ 'black lives matter' people who won't even allow a conversation about black crime - they insist that the conversation itself is racist.

As with many political movements, the passionate idiots have taken over the megaphone, while the intelligent, wise, compassionate people stand in the shadows.

I think its terrible how some people who do this, are also promoting bigoted views of black people as a group.

But I don't think we should discount that there may be subcultures with superior or inferior cultural values, nor that this may be a problem for our society.

There are some christian communities that have much higher cultural standards in ethics than mainstream culture. And there are subcultures of predominantly educated white people with awful values - just see enron. Or much of congress.

We should not discount that being raised with certain beliefs and values leads people to do good or bad things, have different results in life, and that this plays a role in issues facing some parts of the black community.

I absolutely agree. It never makes sense to me when people bring up party politics from decades ago as if this has any bearing on the values or wisdom of the current parties platforms. Most of the political parties throughout our history have opportunistically allowed themselves to be reshaped to gain advantage.