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Topic: Homosexuality
Winx's photo
Sat 01/23/16 11:37 AM
Edited by Winx on Sat 01/23/16 11:58 AM


Im gay , i love my God but i dont like to suppress or pretend to be a man.i want to be happy being gay. And i am looking for that special someone. If i found a bf and we make love you know etc. do you think we will go to hell or is there a thing like hell and heaven?


1 Corinthians 6:9

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites,




Different book:

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

So in the Bible, greedy people, drunks, thieves, and slanderers will also not get into heaven.


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Sat 01/23/16 07:29 PM






Im gay , i love my God but i dont like to suppress or pretend to be a man.i want to be happy being gay. And i am looking for that special someone. If i found a bf and we make love you know etc. do you think we will go to hell or is there a thing like hell and heaven?


heaven and hell, like a god, are only what you make them to be, nothing else...


All in all, if you believe in God or not, Heaven or not. Hell is an absolute true place without a doubt.

Hell is the grave, a holding place for the dead. It's not an eternal torment, punishment, Hell is only temporary. And is why it will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.

Unless we happen to be living when God returns to this world, we will all go to Hell "the grave". And thus why we are told


Revelation 20:13

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.


Notice hell gave up it's dead which we in them. Hell gave up the dead to be judged, so it's obviously not the final resting place for anyone. Don't recall the specific terminology atm, but that's why depending on the translation it will say hell or the other variations of the word revolving around "grave".


heaven and hell are just man made perceptions to give peoples life and death a meaning... be good, by their standards, and go to heaven... don't be good, again by their standards, and go to hell... who taught you what god, heaven and hell are? and don't say god, because we all know it was people...


Incorrect mightyomoe, we ALL go to hell unless of course we're specifically living when Jesus returns. If that does not happen, then we ALL go to hell. No matter the life we've lived, a total saint, or a total heathen. Hell again is nothing more then the GRAVE. And thus why hell is destroyed, and again thus why we will be resurrected from hell FOR judgement.


whatever, people still taught you the concepts, no matter how many times you tell me i'm wrong.. if you would have been brought up somewhere other than where you were, then your belief ideas would be completely different... it's all a matter of perception, nobody is right or wrong because nobody knows what happens after our bodies die...


I doubt it, since my beliefs especially in this general area were investigated and searched myself rather then being told them.

Hell is synonymous to SHEOL; HADES; GEHENNA) all have in common with one thing, it's the resting place of the dead. And again makes perfectly clear the following verse and why it's said as such and depending on the translation could have any variant of the above mentioned words.

Revelation 20:13

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works

when it says "hell" delivered up the dead... same versions say grave, sheol, or any of the above mentioned. Which again means all the same, resting place for the dead. But can we please keep on topic of the designated thread, which is specifically about homosexuality, rather then leading this thread into left field on the debate on the "relevance" of the belief thereof in which most these threads do and get to bashing certain religions/beliefs. Last but not least, hell is not eternal as previously mentioned many, many times prior. It is again merely a holding place of the dead eg., grave, sheol, ect.

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Sat 01/23/16 07:53 PM







Im gay , i love my God but i dont like to suppress or pretend to be a man.i want to be happy being gay. And i am looking for that special someone. If i found a bf and we make love you know etc. do you think we will go to hell or is there a thing like hell and heaven?


heaven and hell, like a god, are only what you make them to be, nothing else...


All in all, if you believe in God or not, Heaven or not. Hell is an absolute true place without a doubt.

Hell is the grave, a holding place for the dead. It's not an eternal torment, punishment, Hell is only temporary. And is why it will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.

Unless we happen to be living when God returns to this world, we will all go to Hell "the grave". And thus why we are told


Revelation 20:13

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.


Notice hell gave up it's dead which we in them. Hell gave up the dead to be judged, so it's obviously not the final resting place for anyone. Don't recall the specific terminology atm, but that's why depending on the translation it will say hell or the other variations of the word revolving around "grave".


heaven and hell are just man made perceptions to give peoples life and death a meaning... be good, by their standards, and go to heaven... don't be good, again by their standards, and go to hell... who taught you what god, heaven and hell are? and don't say god, because we all know it was people...


Incorrect mightyomoe, we ALL go to hell unless of course we're specifically living when Jesus returns. If that does not happen, then we ALL go to hell. No matter the life we've lived, a total saint, or a total heathen. Hell again is nothing more then the GRAVE. And thus why hell is destroyed, and again thus why we will be resurrected from hell FOR judgement.


whatever, people still taught you the concepts, no matter how many times you tell me i'm wrong.. if you would have been brought up somewhere other than where you were, then your belief ideas would be completely different... it's all a matter of perception, nobody is right or wrong because nobody knows what happens after our bodies die...


I doubt it, since my beliefs especially in this general area were investigated and searched myself rather then being told them.

Hell is synonymous to SHEOL; HADES; GEHENNA) all have in common with one thing, it's the resting place of the dead. And again makes perfectly clear the following verse and why it's said as such and depending on the translation could have any variant of the above mentioned words.

Revelation 20:13

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works

when it says "hell" delivered up the dead... same versions say grave, sheol, or any of the above mentioned. Which again means all the same, resting place for the dead. But can we please keep on topic of the designated thread, which is specifically about homosexuality, rather then leading this thread into left field on the debate on the "relevance" of the belief thereof in which most these threads do and get to bashing certain religions/beliefs. Last but not least, hell is not eternal as previously mentioned many, many times prior. It is again merely a holding place of the dead eg., grave, sheol, ect.


you've investigated hell? if you've never been there, how can you investigate it? hell is just a concept, meaning something very unpleasant... sitting in a jail cell for 20 years could be hell, or maybe just a bad day... no one alive today knows any more about heaven or hell than anyone else, you read a book and make a judgement...don't forget, those books were written by people that were alive at the time, so their knowledge is no greater than anyone elses...

and him being gay doesn't mean for people to throw scriptures at him, he can read the bible as well as anyone else in here...


BTW, i was responding to him when you started telling me how wrong i am, and then all the Scriptures... so when you decide come back from left field with something that might actually help besides quoting Scriptures, let me know...

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Sat 01/23/16 08:04 PM








Im gay , i love my God but i dont like to suppress or pretend to be a man.i want to be happy being gay. And i am looking for that special someone. If i found a bf and we make love you know etc. do you think we will go to hell or is there a thing like hell and heaven?


heaven and hell, like a god, are only what you make them to be, nothing else...


All in all, if you believe in God or not, Heaven or not. Hell is an absolute true place without a doubt.

Hell is the grave, a holding place for the dead. It's not an eternal torment, punishment, Hell is only temporary. And is why it will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.

Unless we happen to be living when God returns to this world, we will all go to Hell "the grave". And thus why we are told


Revelation 20:13

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.


Notice hell gave up it's dead which we in them. Hell gave up the dead to be judged, so it's obviously not the final resting place for anyone. Don't recall the specific terminology atm, but that's why depending on the translation it will say hell or the other variations of the word revolving around "grave".


heaven and hell are just man made perceptions to give peoples life and death a meaning... be good, by their standards, and go to heaven... don't be good, again by their standards, and go to hell... who taught you what god, heaven and hell are? and don't say god, because we all know it was people...


Incorrect mightyomoe, we ALL go to hell unless of course we're specifically living when Jesus returns. If that does not happen, then we ALL go to hell. No matter the life we've lived, a total saint, or a total heathen. Hell again is nothing more then the GRAVE. And thus why hell is destroyed, and again thus why we will be resurrected from hell FOR judgement.


whatever, people still taught you the concepts, no matter how many times you tell me i'm wrong.. if you would have been brought up somewhere other than where you were, then your belief ideas would be completely different... it's all a matter of perception, nobody is right or wrong because nobody knows what happens after our bodies die...


I doubt it, since my beliefs especially in this general area were investigated and searched myself rather then being told them.

Hell is synonymous to SHEOL; HADES; GEHENNA) all have in common with one thing, it's the resting place of the dead. And again makes perfectly clear the following verse and why it's said as such and depending on the translation could have any variant of the above mentioned words.

Revelation 20:13

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works

when it says "hell" delivered up the dead... same versions say grave, sheol, or any of the above mentioned. Which again means all the same, resting place for the dead. But can we please keep on topic of the designated thread, which is specifically about homosexuality, rather then leading this thread into left field on the debate on the "relevance" of the belief thereof in which most these threads do and get to bashing certain religions/beliefs. Last but not least, hell is not eternal as previously mentioned many, many times prior. It is again merely a holding place of the dead eg., grave, sheol, ect.


you've investigated hell? if you've never been there, how can you investigate it? hell is just a concept, meaning something very unpleasant... sitting in a jail cell for 20 years could be hell, or maybe just a bad day... no one alive today knows any more about heaven or hell than anyone else, you read a book and make a judgement...don't forget, those books were written by people that were alive at the time, so their knowledge is no greater than anyone elses...

and him being gay doesn't mean for people to throw scriptures at him, he can read the bible as well as anyone else in here...


BTW, i was responding to him when you started telling me how wrong i am, and then all the Scriptures... so when you decide come back from left field with something that might actually help besides quoting Scriptures, let me know...


Your mentions of hell are only "figuratively" speaking. I was referring the exact definitions of hell, hades, sheol, grave. No I've never "investigated" hell, as I've only been dead once but never buried, so therefore I never experienced hell., eg the grave.

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Mon 02/22/16 01:24 PM
Edited by spoutnick on Mon 02/22/16 01:28 PM
In 2007 I had a heart problem it stops 2min 20 sec well I didn't see the light of heaven and I didn't see the fire of hell
So end discusion

And if you are hetero, bisexual, homosexual, transexual etc just be happy and enjoy life in all his way's

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