Topic: epidemic: police average 4 killings per day in january
mightymoe's photo
Thu 02/18/16 09:41 AM

Claire Bernish
Free Thought Project
Thu, 18 Feb 2016 13:45 UTC
In January 2016, police killed 113 people — at least one person was fatally gunned down by a cop every day that month. One particularly deadly day, January 27, saw ten people meet their fate, thanks to the police. On average, that is almost 4 people a day.

And there is no indication this tragic epidemic will end soon.

That daily average is higher than the annual average of other countries. For example, in all of 2011, British police killed 2 people. In 2012, 1 person. In 2013, a total of 3 bullets left the barrels of British police guns, and no one was killed. In the last two years, a total of 4 people have lost their lives because of British cops, bringing the total number of citizens killed in the UK to 7 in the last 5 years.

Nonprofit Fatal Encounters — which compiled the January statistics — tracks, verifies, maps, and charts the data for deadly police incidents, which admittedly isn't complete due to a continuing lack of mandatory national reporting requirement. That lack also creates gaps in available information — such as race or age, or even deaths, themselves — which might otherwise aid those seeking to curb, and ultimately end, police brutality. Though the numbers include killings by police which might be legally justified, many of the incidents' circumstances aren't entirely known.

One researcher for the site, Christopher Cox, who handles deaths by law enforcement agencies in Texas, explained in October he'd already received 1,916 responses to Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests — a sign Fatal Encounters truly strives for thoroughness.

According to the website,

"Fatal Encounters is intended to help create a database of all deaths through police interaction in the United States since Jan. 1, 2000."

"This site will remain as impartial and data-driven as possible, directed by the theory that Americans should be able to answer some simple questions about the use of deadly force by police: How many people are killed in interactions with law enforcement in the United States of America? Are [the numbers] increasing? What do those people look like? Can policies and training be modified to have fewer officer-involved shootings and improve outcomes and safety for both officers and citizens?"

Answers to those questions have been attempted by various groups and multiple websites, such as Killed By Police, which relies almost completely on information contributed by the public; and The Counted, a project by The Guardian which, though praised for its interactive database, has been lightly criticized for low counts.

Killed By Police listed 1,205 total killings by law enforcement for 2015, but hasn't yet listed any statistics for 2016. The Counted tallied just 83 deaths compared to Fatal Encounters 113 for January 2016.

It would be most desirable for there to be a reporting requirement — or no need whatsoever for any database of those killed by the very people tasked with protecting them from harm.

mariodebiker's photo
Thu 02/18/16 10:29 AM
Yet still you Americans will not pass legislation to make gun ownership illegal. Poor Obama seems to have sacrificed his political career trying to pass gun laws. Your statistics prove the point, here in the UK the police force have to get special permission just to use a Tazer! "The right to bear arms" is out of date. Nowadays its more like the right to arm bears! Maybe the white Americans look at it as population control as I suspect the number of Blacks americans getting shot is mucher higher than whites. I think this a common point of view in the UK.

mightymoe's photo
Thu 02/18/16 10:32 AM

Yet still you Americans will not pass legislation to make gun ownership illegal. Poor Obama seems to have sacrificed his political career trying to pass gun laws. Your statistics prove the point, here in the UK the police force have to get special permission just to use a Tazer! "The right to bear arms" is out of date. Nowadays its more like the right to arm bears! Maybe the white Americans look at it as population control as I suspect the number of Blacks americans getting shot is mucher higher than whites. I think this a common point of view in the UK.


when we threw you guys out in the 1700's, we drew up a little thing called the "constitution", which gives us unalienable rights as citizens...

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Thu 02/18/16 10:38 AM


Yet still you Americans will not pass legislation to make gun ownership illegal. Poor Obama seems to have sacrificed his political career trying to pass gun laws. Your statistics prove the point, here in the UK the police force have to get special permission just to use a Tazer! "The right to bear arms" is out of date. Nowadays its more like the right to arm bears! Maybe the white Americans look at it as population control as I suspect the number of Blacks americans getting shot is mucher higher than whites. I think this a common point of view in the UK.


when we threw you guys out in the 1700's, we drew up a little thing called the "constitution", which gives us unalienable rights as citizens...


And yet.so many want to 'parent' us.. and / or live here... In the baby country.. Hhhaaa.. Like the rest of the world looks good to us. laugh

mightymoe's photo
Thu 02/18/16 10:38 AM

113 is a large number.

Did the survey give a breakdown as to the reason for the shooting?. A unjustifiable shooting is a crime, which if any are unjustifiable then the police should be charge with murder. Period. But how many of these 113 were justifiable.

We had a guy yesterday walking down a street here waving a gun at people. They called the cops. 3 cop cars came, they told him to drop the gun.. he didn't.. he pointed it at them.. they shot and killed him. All witnesses agreed to that. Had he pulled the trigger someone could have been killed, cop or innocent victim.

But that would go down on this persons article as a police killing


he "police suicided" himself... but no, i haven't seen any breakdowns on this

LittleLeftofRight's photo
Thu 02/18/16 10:43 AM
Edited by LittleLeftofRight on Thu 02/18/16 10:47 AM
What if everyone woke up one day and found out that the majority of everything you believed as truth was nothing more than a pack of lies? Ever think of that?

It would be most desirable for there to be a reporting requirement — or no need whatsoever for any database of those killed by the very people tasked with protecting them from harm.



Government has NO duty to protect you.

Ironically most everything people 'think' they know or 'believe in' is mostly BS and and the fruits of well organized false advertising.


Just review cases like Deshaney, gonzales, warren and so forth


http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3172&context=dlj



Police Have No Duty To Protect Individuals
by Peter Kasler

Self-Reliance For Self-Defense -- Police Protection Isn't Enough!

All our lives, especially during our younger years, we hear that the police are there to protect us. From the very first kindergarten- class visit of "Officer Friendly" to the very last time we saw a police car - most of which have "To Protect and Serve" emblazoned on their doors - we're encouraged to give ourselves over to police protection. But it hasn't always been that way.

Before the mid-1800s, American and British citizens - even in large cities - were expected to protect themselves and each other. Indeed, they were legally required to pursue and attempt to apprehend criminals. The notion of a police force in those days was abhorrent in England and America, where liberals viewed it as a form of the dreaded "standing army."
[because it IS a standing army!] (Emphasis mine)


England's first police force, in London, was not instituted until 1827. The first such forces in America followed in New York, Boston, and Philadelphia during the period between 1835 and 1845. They were established only to augment citizen self-protection. It was never intended that they act affirmatively, prior to or during criminal activity or violence against individual citizens. Their duty was to protect society as a whole by deterrence; i.e., by systematically patrolling, detecting and apprehending criminals after the occurrence of crimes. There was no thought of police displacing the citizens' right of self-protection. Nor could they, even if it were intended.

Professor Don B. Kates, Jr., eminent civil rights lawyer and criminologist, states:

Even if all 500,000 American police officers were assigned to patrol, they could not protect 240 million citizens from upwards of 10 million criminals who enjoy the luxury of deciding when and where to strike. But we have nothing like 500,000 patrol officers; to determine how many police are actually available for any one shift, we must divide the 500,000 by four (three shifts per day, plus officers who have days off, are on sick leave, etc.). The resulting number must be cut in half to account for officers assigned to investigations, juvenile, records, laboratory, traffic, etc., rather than patrol. [1]

[snip]

It is, therefore, a fact of law and of practical necessity that individuals are responsible for their own personal safety, and that of their loved ones. Police protection must be recognized for what it is: only an auxiliary general deterrent.
https://www.firearmsandliberty.com/kasler-protection.html



no photo
Thu 02/18/16 11:14 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect-someone.html/

Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone
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Topic: 2016: Dead In The Line Of Duty
http://m.mingle2.com/topic/show/469196/
* I have already posted the spike in cops killed in 2014-2015 on other threads*

2016... In the line of duty

10 MEN dead (8 shot), & 8
Police dogs.. in 41 days

Now that ^^^ is a crisis & national disgrace committed by CRIMINALS w/ ILLEGAL weapons. Resit arrest, be a threat to society or a cop & get shot. Plain & simple.
Cops doing their job isn't new. The call out to kill cops & the growing disrespect & contempt for them is. That is the problem. Like Louis Farrakhan, Quentin Tarantino, All Sharpton & all the others who PROFIT off of being a race baiter, including political leaders, & the elite who want us to give up our rights in the name of ' peace & safety '. And entertainers, who also profit like this.. Babylon B@tch

Topic: Beyoncé : Protest & Boycott http://m.mingle2.com/topic/show/468846/

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 02/18/16 11:45 AM

Yet still you Americans will not pass legislation to make gun ownership illegal. Poor Obama seems to have sacrificed his political career trying to pass gun laws. Your statistics prove the point, here in the UK the police force have to get special permission just to use a Tazer! "The right to bear arms" is out of date. Nowadays its more like the right to arm bears! Maybe the white Americans look at it as population control as I suspect the number of Blacks americans getting shot is mucher higher than whites. I think this a common point of view in the UK.
Pray tell why the US has to consider the Opinion of the UK?
Especially since it is mainly rooted in ignorance of the Issues!
Besides,have a look at your present Violent-Crime Statistics!
Will be a real Eyeopener!

LittleLeftofRight's photo
Thu 02/18/16 01:04 PM
Edited by LittleLeftofRight on Thu 02/18/16 01:11 PM
Looks to me like they are planning for a full scale invasion. That is how its done. Military buildup. Certainly looks like a standing army to me. A standing army does not need to have a US Army emblem sewn on the uniform to be one.




WND EXCLUSIVE

U.S. suddenly alarmed over militarization of cops 'Andy Griffith and Barney Fife could be using grenade launchers and a tank'
Published: 08/19/2014 at 8:25 PM

At least one Bill of Rights watchdog who has been warning of the “militarization” of local law enforcement, particularly through the federal government’s surplus equipment program, believes the citywide lockdown after the Boston Marathon bombing and the armored vehicles and high-tech weaponry used to calm the violence in Ferguson, Missouri, shows the U.S. already has become a police state.

John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute, who has sued police departments for SWAT tactics, writes “these are no longer warning signs of a steadily encroaching police state.”

“The police state has arrived,” he said.

“For those like myself who have studied emerging police states, the sight of a city placed under martial law – its citizens under house arrest (officials used the Orwellian phrase ‘shelter in place’ to describe the mandatory lock-down), military-style helicopters equipped with thermal imaging devices buzzing the skies, tanks and armored vehicles on the streets, and snipers perched on rooftops, while thousands of black-garbed police swarm the streets and SWAT teams carry out house-to-house searches – leaves us in a growing state of unease,” he wrote.





WND reports on the militarization local police date to within months of the news site’s launch in 1997, when founder and CEO Joseph Farah wrote about a training session for armed federal officers for the Environmental Protec

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/u-s-suddenly-alarmed-over-militarization-of-cops/#hzCqCk3azHqHyRbD.99





Looks to me like they took a giant crapola in their own beds by creating a standing army and brutalizing so many people in the 'line of duty' and now they get sleep in it. That was often said at Nuremberg if I remember correctly?


When they can afford all the law suits and to militarize our local police it seems someone or something is getting way to much money ya'll think


no photo
Thu 02/18/16 08:34 PM
That was
often said at Nuremberg
.

LittleLeftofRight


Shocked, I tell ya, shocked.....

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 02/19/16 12:21 AM
it's those Betula pendula-Groves I tells ya!grumble frustrated