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Topic: 4yo kids asked to choose gender
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Wed 04/20/16 11:08 AM
This has caused outrage here.
If you do click the link and scroll right down to the comments below the article you will see what the vast majority of those leaving comments think.
PC gone mad.



A council leader has said he is 'proud' of a letter asking children aged four to choose the gender 'they most identify with'.

Brighton and Hove City Council wrote to thousands of parents asking them to confirm their primary school places this week.

It wrote to parents urging them to support their child's choice of 'gender identity' and asked them to leave the form blank if the child had 'another gender identity' altogether.

Brighton and Hove City Council reportedly wrote: 'We recognise that not all children and young people identify with the gender they were assigned at birth or may identify as a gender other than male or female, however the current systems (set nationally) only record gender as male or female.

http://news.sky.com/story/1681865/council-proud-of-asking-kids-to-choose-gender

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Wed 04/20/16 11:14 AM
about time those Idiots are getting charged with Child-Abuse!rant

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Wed 04/20/16 11:40 AM

* Nice to see schools get out of education.

England vs Canada laugh
** " Ontario’s updated sex-education curriculum was drafted by a man charged with child pornography " oh, it was only 7 charges huh

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/tory-mps-claims-about-ontario-sex-ed-curriculum-disgusting-liberals/article23256258/


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Wed 04/20/16 11:55 AM
Smfh! Pedophilia Prep in Primary School.
Anyone who doesn't realize that, your offspring is screwed in more ways than one.

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Wed 04/20/16 01:01 PM
People should be able to do what they want. If an XY-chromosomes person wants to wear a dress, so what. If an XX-chromosomes person wants to grow facial hair - who cares?

If people want to freak out about their gender designation, I think we should give them the courtesy, to their face, of addressing them how they liked to be called (just like we ought to do with nicknames).


But so much of the trans agenda seems like huge steps backwards to me. I'm very interested in seeing how this plays out over the next couple decades.

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Wed 04/20/16 01:06 PM

People should be able to do what they want. If an XY-chromosomes person wants to wear a dress, so what. If an XX-chromosomes person wants to grow facial hair - who cares?

If people want to freak out about their gender designation, I think we should give them the courtesy, to their face, of addressing them how they liked to be called (just like we ought to do with nicknames).


But so much of the trans agenda seems like huge steps backwards to me. I'm very interested in seeing how this plays out over the next couple decades.
I think ur full of chit and adding to the problem not helping it. you may remove or change a body part BUT you CANT CHANGE dna!!

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Wed 04/20/16 01:08 PM


People should be able to do what they want. If an XY-chromosomes person wants to wear a dress, so what. If an XX-chromosomes person wants to grow facial hair - who cares?

If people want to freak out about their gender designation, I think we should give them the courtesy, to their face, of addressing them how they liked to be called (just like we ought to do with nicknames).


But so much of the trans agenda seems like huge steps backwards to me. I'm very interested in seeing how this plays out over the next couple decades.
I think ur full of chit and adding to the problem not helping it. you may remove or change a body part BUT you CANT CHANGE dna!!

me thinks you need to read that Post again,before you're going off half-co cked!laugh

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Wed 04/20/16 01:13 PM
NO ONE should be asking a 4 yr. old what they are, especially sexual.
No one should mandate that parents ask THEIR children & to put it in writing.

And the part about, leave it BLANK is VERY suspicious! grumble

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Wed 04/20/16 01:15 PM


People should be able to do what they want. If an XY-chromosomes person wants to wear a dress, so what. If an XX-chromosomes person wants to grow facial hair - who cares?

If people want to freak out about their gender designation, I think we should give them the courtesy, to their face, of addressing them how they liked to be called (just like we ought to do with nicknames).


But so much of the trans agenda seems like huge steps backwards to me. I'm very interested in seeing how this plays out over the next couple decades.
I think ur full of chit and adding to the problem not helping it. you may remove or change a body part BUT you CANT CHANGE dna!!


That's an interesting point of view.

What do you see as 'the problem' exactly? I mean, I can see several, so I'm not sure which you might mean.

And how am I adding to it?

I agree, its just a fact of reality that you can't change DNA; and then again, DNA is DNA. DNA doesn't wholly determine how we feel, nor how people see us, and certainly not how we feel about how people see us.

If you are anti-trans activism, well I'd have to agree that today's trans activists don't really seem interested in reality.

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Wed 04/20/16 01:19 PM



People should be able to do what they want. If an XY-chromosomes person wants to wear a dress, so what. If an XX-chromosomes person wants to grow facial hair - who cares?

If people want to freak out about their gender designation, I think we should give them the courtesy, to their face, of addressing them how they liked to be called (just like we ought to do with nicknames).


But so much of the trans agenda seems like huge steps backwards to me. I'm very interested in seeing how this plays out over the next couple decades.
I think ur full of chit and adding to the problem not helping it. you may remove or change a body part BUT you CANT CHANGE dna!!


That's an interesting point of view.

What do you see as 'the problem' exactly? I mean, I can see several, so I'm not sure which you might mean.

And how am I adding to it?

I agree, its just a fact of reality that you can't change DNA; and then again, DNA is DNA. DNA doesn't wholly determine how we feel, nor how people see us, and certainly not how we feel about how people see us.

If you are anti-trans activism, well I'd have to agree that today's trans activists don't really seem interested in reality.

I wouldn't worry about his comment.

I'm similar to you. I don't care who's gay, trans, blue, green or purple.

But asking a 4 yo kid these questions is wrong.

I'd question the person who thought of this idea, and I'd wonder what goes on in their minds.

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Wed 04/20/16 01:21 PM

NO ONE should be asking a 4 yr. old what they are


Yeah, so much about these kinds of pro-trans agendas just seem to undermine their own goals. I think we've all already gotten past a lot of gender stereotypes the past few decades, and kids are more allowed to grow up to be themselves _without_ asking them to choose a gender.

But now they want kids to choose a gender - which necessarily relies on and reinforces gender stereotypes.

I think these people are promoting sexism without even realizing it.

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Wed 04/20/16 01:28 PM

I think ur full of ... and adding to the problem not helping it. you may remove or change a body part BUT you CANT CHANGE dna!!


That's an interesting point of view.

What do you see as 'the problem' exactly? I mean, I can see several, so I'm not sure which you might mean.

And how am I adding to it?

I agree, its just a fact of reality that you can't change DNA; and then again, DNA is DNA. DNA doesn't wholly determine how we feel, nor how people see us, and certainly not how we feel about how people see us.

If you are anti-trans activism, well I'd have to agree that today's trans activists don't really seem interested in reality.

I wouldn't worry about his comment.


I just want to better understand his thought process. We may have more in common than he thinks.

To me, the biggest evil occurs when politicians and such try to control us by trying to force us to choose between one of two sides on an issue (and painting one side as hate-worthy, so we must choose the other). Maybe there is a third or fourth side to consider. This kind of manipulation occurs in _every_ area of politics. Neither the left or the right is above it.

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Wed 04/20/16 01:33 PM

This has caused outrage here.
If you do click the link and scroll right down to the comments below the article you will see what the vast majority of those leaving comments think.
PC gone mad.



A council leader has said he is 'proud' of a letter asking children aged four to choose the gender 'they most identify with'.

Brighton and Hove City Council wrote to thousands of parents asking them to confirm their primary school places this week.

It wrote to parents urging them to support their child's choice of 'gender identity' and asked them to leave the form blank if the child had 'another gender identity' altogether.

Brighton and Hove City Council reportedly wrote: 'We recognise that not all children and young people identify with the gender they were assigned at birth or may identify as a gender other than male or female, however the current systems (set nationally) only record gender as male or female.

http://news.sky.com/story/1681865/council-proud-of-asking-kids-to-choose-gender


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**** From the link ***

" HankMcSpank
7 hours ago

I asked my son what gender he wanted to be... he said "Huh?"


I then asked him if he was for or against Brexit ...he said "Dad, I hope you're not going to talk over Peppa Pig when it starts in a minute" "


*** Bricky waving , Made my day rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Wed 04/20/16 02:54 PM

My concern with this approach is that children of age 4 .. Cognitively are still in the magical thinking stage .. Believing in Santa.. The tooth fairy .. Super powers . .. Ask a four year old what will happen to barney if the tv is held up .. many will respond .. he will fall out . . They are very much influenced by their environment and play. Sure they know physically they are a boy or girl . This question is better left until they have at least gone through puberty and are able to answer for themselves .. Independent of parental bias .

This would be my take on it too.

Lots of little boys play with dolls at that age, lots of little girls play with toy trucks at that age, doesn't mean they will grow up to be gay or trans or straight or anything else.

Let kids be kids and decide for themselves (when they are older), then live and let live whatever they be.

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Wed 04/20/16 03:06 PM


My concern with this approach is that children of age 4 .. Cognitively are still in the magical thinking stage .. Believing in Santa.. The tooth fairy .. Super powers . .. Ask a four year old what will happen to barney if the tv is held up .. many will respond .. he will fall out . . They are very much influenced by their environment and play. Sure they know physically they are a boy or girl . This question is better left until they have at least gone through puberty and are able to answer for themselves .. Independent of parental bias .

This would be my take on it too.

Lots of little boys play with dolls at that age, lots of little girls play with toy trucks at that age, doesn't mean they will grow up to be gay or trans or straight or anything else.

Let kids be kids and decide for themselves (when they are older), then live and let live whatever they be.



Absolutely! And now we have a generation of liberal millennials who have turned their kids into signposts for their 'liberal virtues', encouraging their child to declare themselves trans, and then parading them on social media to prove to the world how 'progressive' they are. Let the kids be themselves!!


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Wed 04/20/16 03:14 PM
Sick sons of bltches,
trying to sexualize children.

rant



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Wed 04/20/16 04:19 PM
Edited by Argo on Wed 04/20/16 04:26 PM
more internet hysteria in action....if you bother to read
a credible account of the story you will find the so called
letter to parents is a standard form for students entering
school this fall...NO parents are being instructed to question
their 4 yo child on what sexual identity they want to be...but
rather, IF the PARENT is concerned about their child exhibiting
certain behaviors to leave the male/female box unchecked
and the school will be happy to have a conference with the PARENTS
prior to the beginning of school in the fall...

my source: the BBC....a little hard to find amongst all the
tabloid journalism available.. .but it's there if you want to bother finding something credible...




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Wed 04/20/16 04:26 PM

more internet hysteria in action....if you bother to read
a credible account of the story you will find the so called
letter to parents is a standard form for students entering
school this fall...NO parents are being instructed to question
their 4 yo child on what sexual identity they want to be...but
rather, IF the PARENT is concerned about their child exhibiting
certain behaviors to leave the male/female box unchecked and the school will be happy to have a conference with the PARENTS
prior to the beginning of school in the fall...

my source: the BBC....a little hard to find amongst all the
tabloid journalism available.. .but it's there if you want to bother finding something credible...



FYI Sky is a credible source


'Please support your child to choose the gender they most identify with.

'Or if they have another gender identity please leave this blank and discuss with your child's school.



I think you need to read it again and think about the fact that these kids are 4 years of age.





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Wed 04/20/16 04:34 PM


more internet hysteria in action....if you bother to read
a credible account of the story you will find the so called
letter to parents is a standard form for students entering
school this fall...NO parents are being instructed to question
their 4 yo child on what sexual identity they want to be...but
rather, IF the PARENT is concerned about their child exhibiting
certain behaviors to leave the male/female box unchecked and the school will be happy to have a conference with the PARENTS
prior to the beginning of school in the fall...

my source: the BBC....a little hard to find amongst all the
tabloid journalism available.. .but it's there if you want to bother finding something credible...



FYI Sky is a credible source


'Please support your child to choose the gender they most identify with.

'Or if they have another gender identity please leave this blank and discuss with your child's school.



I think you need to read it again and think about the fact that these kids are 4 years of age.







liberals are blind to what the government does... to them, obarry and his ilk can do no wrong...

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Wed 04/20/16 04:37 PM
i've read both and others.....i choose the BBC accounting
of the story...anyone else is free to choose as they wish
i'm just putting my opinion of the article forward..

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