Well, I am still hopeful there will be one man in future I will say yes too!

I have a gentleman Activity partner now, so I am still ok .

I totally agree with you... We as women need our alone time as well...

Your right No Big Deal so why do it? You can trust someone without paper or other witnesses. People are more confident of themselves these days without need of those big money making institutes getting involved.

They are not interested in that woman.

There are two reasons for why a woman who wants to be married...1) if there will be children in the picture then having both parents married to each other makes it feel more like having a family. 2) She probably believes that if she is married to him then he is less likely to look for a replacement of her.
These are the only reasons I can see coming from a woman's point of view for a second marriage.
Me personally, don't matter either way. If two people want to ensure that both stay loyal, then all they need to do is make their own vow to each other, this is a verbal contract without all the trouble of getting married. Face it, most people are insecure about any relationship and this is what holds many people back and just taking a chance without all the worry. I just wish guys wouldn't expect sex on a first date, the woman may feel pressured if she likes him to do so hoping that he calls on her again, and No, not all women will call you because they don't want to make it feel like she is being pushy or controlling. Just saying....

cgor,

not all guys are looking for sex on the first date
yes some are and are willing to go to great lengths to accomplish their mission.

But some of us arent like that.

I have a personal motto if a woman is willing to sleep with me on the first date even though the attraction is strong, then she will sleep with others on the first date or if she out on a ladies weekend or trip and after a few drinks she might do so, she may regret it but still does so, that isnt the woman for me.

A woman ( in my experience) that doesn't want sex on the first date or so and is head strong about it, that is the woman for me, because I know she values sex and intimacy vs giving in to her animal desires.

At this stage in my life Im not looking for conquests or a piece of azz , Im in the market looking for a partner and all the good things that go with having a partner.

that is just my opinion.

They are seeking a relationship as they view relationship. Some that means FWB and some mean marriage. Dating separates all that out. Some of the ladies think all relationships are as they view relationship and get upset when his views don't match her views. Good luck with that

It means they are somewhat willing to be less selfish considering having compassion and empathy for another human being..

Meh...

I traded up, for a newer sportier ride.

They want to put a ring on it

I can’t speak for every guy, but some of us can be just as happy living with or dating someone. We do not like to feel stress or shamed into making a long term commitment. Which will usually happens when the women feels like the relationship is going nowhere.
We feel that being in a relationship is enough and don’t need any paper telling us that we have a commitment or belong to a person.
Most women seem to want a commitment and to us, that means marriage. I don’t know why we take a commitment differently from women. But I personally believe when I say, we are together as a couple, that is all I need. From that point on, I don’t cheat ( which I never have), I’m true and honest with my partner. To me it’s the same commitment as marriage and I dont need any paper telling me this.
Also if for some reason we feel that it would be beneficial to separate, this can happen without all the expenses you would occur if you where married. Most men don’t agree with our officials, and the cost of everything, and it’s another way for them to tax us.
So basically it’s not so much you women that make us not want marriage, but our society in whole.
I have a more meaningful relationship with my partners, than most married people. It should never have to do anything about a piece of paper, it’s all about the two people!
Just my opinion and could differ from guy to guy. Since we are not all the same.

It's great to hear that at least one guy does not expect sex on the first date. No rush to get into that. They should get to know each other first, before jumping into a sexual relationship. As for marriage, it's not something I would want again. I would much rather just date and see where it leads. No long term commitment until one gets to know the person. Men can hide their bad ways until they've got you hooked. Men will also say anything to get you to have a relationship with them. Be wary of them, unless you come across a really genuine man. So don't rush into any relationship. Take it easy. Good luck everyone.

He's not really in to you! If a man wants to marry a woman, he doesn't worry about what he may loose in the process. That's called Love.

He's not just throwing kisses on a date site.

mmmm continue

Yeah well, they don't want to lose 1/2 there stuff... again. They did that.. it hurt.. it left them with 1/2.. they don't want to lose that 1/2 too.. because then they have.. nothing

I am not looking for marriage at the outset simply because the paper doesn't make us stay together, it is the relationship that bonds us. The relationship is a whole realm of potential list items, too numerous to fit in a simple profile, but I hope I covered my really important points straight away. If we are married, that's just one more complication to correct should you and I decide to part company. So, if you can't commit to the right partner without the paper, you will get no paper AND someone besides me.

I don't have stuff. I can relocate my whole self using one single pickup load, no trailers. Another facet of me not needing that formal marriage document.

Sorry, OP, but men tend to be cold factual and calculating, my directness is based on practicality.

I know the OP is no longer with us. But I will answer her post anyway.

I don't mean to be insulting. But the truth as I know it, By the time I got married I had dated many women. Most of them were a waste of time. Just aggravating people in all kinds of ways.

Later on, I married. At the time I thought I was getting a good woman that would treat me right. For the two years that we dated she treated me great. After we married, within a couple of months, she turned into an azz hole of a woman that gave me he11 at every turn.

The only thing I could count on her for was spending money faster than we could make it. I put up with her nosy trouble making mother and aggravating siblings. One thought he could walk into our house and take whatever he wanted without asking while we were not there.

Since at the time I believed marriage is supposed to be forever, I stayed with her for 6 years. I put up with more crap than I could write here.

After I divorced and later on started dating again, about all I've ever met are women that don't want me for me. They want me for what I have. For what they think I can give them.

It has nothing to do with just loving me and wanting to be with me. So why would I, or any man in similar shoes ever want to marry again? when that is what the great majority now seem to be focused on.

It's been this way for the past 20, maybe 30 years. My mother told me many years ago that she loved my dad so much that she would have lived in a tent in the woods with him if that was what it took. It never did. But that kind of love, it's all but a thing of the past now.

That kind of love is seldom heard of. That's the kind of love I would like to have. The kind of love that is based on nothing but being with each other. And making it work.

Now, and for many years, it's mostly based on what can he give me. Not, "I love him. PERIOD. I'll never marry again. Simply because of that.

Ok.