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I always wondered, barring true pedophilia which actually relates to pre pubescent aged girls why is it seen as a perversion for men to flirt with or be with teenagers, but basically normal and expected for them to fantasize about them(via 'schoolgirl' uniforms for grown women) ? do hormones respond based on age of the stimulant, so to speak or are they strictly animal and instinctive to anatomy? just my opinion... I think this thread is the result of the same thing that answers the question here. That is, a mixing and confusion of a number of different elements that really don't fit together. * For one thing, the "acceptance" of males fantasizing about women in school girl uniforms (most commonly the plaid skirt, white blouse and saddle shoes combo, from what I'v seen) isn't all that universal. Something I noticed in particular, starting when I was very young, is that there are a LOT of things which get acted out in COMEDIES on TV and in movies, and after a while, the fact that they do get acted out that way, makes a lot of people think that the society has now accepted the REAL version of that comedic thing, as "normal." * For another thing, there are a whole HOST of fantasies which are ALL based on the same basic thing: having simultaneous "forbidden fruit" fun, in a way that allows the guy fantasizing to imagine that he gets that fun, because he's extra specially and uniquely valuable. * Don't conflate acceptance of FANTASY, with acceptance of REALITY. The human fantasy world, is closer in most cases, to the human dream world, than it is to the human "I wish this were real" world. A hint for insight about that, is found in all the times when people get to live out their fantasies, and have a bad time of it. It's very common to find that a fantasy is really only fun because it IS a fantasy. * Don't get too caught up in deducing anything from evolutionary theory, as is common these days. ESPECIALLY watch out for deductions that imply that we evolve a certain way ON PURPOSE. It's particularly misleading to think that we evolved to be attracted to each other in a way that is best for the overall society. It's tempting to imagine that we could derive some sort of true natural morality from our DNA programming, but that opens the door to a LOT of stuff which would be very bad for us. This in particular: "do hormones respond based on age of the stimulant, so to speak, or are they strictly animal and instinctive to anatomy?" is really not known. We have hints, because it is true, that most people DON'T have to be forced or guided by society at large, not to pursue sexual relations with small children, or very old people. And I have not personally seen that it is the age of the TARGET that "causes" the sexual interest, it is the nature of the PREDATOR that does it. |
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I always wondered, barring true pedophilia which actually relates to pre pubescent aged girls why is it seen as a perversion for men to flirt with or be with teenagers, but basically normal and expected for them to fantasize about them(via 'schoolgirl' uniforms for grown women) ? do hormones respond based on age of the stimulant, so to speak or are they strictly animal and instinctive to anatomy? just my opinion... I think this thread is the result of the same thing that answers the question here. That is, a mixing and confusion of a number of different elements that really don't fit together. * For one thing, the "acceptance" of males fantasizing about women in school girl uniforms (most commonly the plaid skirt, white blouse and saddle shoes combo, from what I'v seen) isn't all that universal. Something I noticed in particular, starting when I was very young, is that there are a LOT of things which get acted out in COMEDIES on TV and in movies, and after a while, the fact that they do get acted out that way, makes a lot of people think that the society has now accepted the REAL version of that comedic thing, as "normal." * For another thing, there are a whole HOST of fantasies which are ALL based on the same basic thing: having simultaneous "forbidden fruit" fun, in a way that allows the guy fantasizing to imagine that he gets that fun, because he's extra specially and uniquely valuable. * Don't conflate acceptance of FANTASY, with acceptance of REALITY. The human fantasy world, is closer in most cases, to the human dream world, than it is to the human "I wish this were real" world. A hint for insight about that, is found in all the times when people get to live out their fantasies, and have a bad time of it. It's very common to find that a fantasy is really only fun because it IS a fantasy. * Don't get too caught up in deducing anything from evolutionary theory, as is common these days. ESPECIALLY watch out for deductions that imply that we evolve a certain way ON PURPOSE. It's particularly misleading to think that we evolved to be attracted to each other in a way that is best for the overall society. It's tempting to imagine that we could derive some sort of true natural morality from our DNA programming, but that opens the door to a LOT of stuff which would be very bad for us. This in particular: "do hormones respond based on age of the stimulant, so to speak, or are they strictly animal and instinctive to anatomy?" is really not known. We have hints, because it is true, that most people DON'T have to be forced or guided by society at large, not to pursue sexual relations with small children, or very old people. And I have not personally seen that it is the age of the TARGET that "causes" the sexual interest, it is the nature of the PREDATOR that does it. Thanks for setting the record straight, Igor  This thread is full of preconceived notions, assumptions and dangerous stereotypes. As if most men couldn't control themselves around petulant scantily-clad women-wanna-be's  and the pseudo - science suggestions presented in this thread come from people who have no clue what it is to have a Y chromosome and if some do have it those have turned coat to please their feminist overlords. You are 100% correct when you wrote that society takes the Media representations of intimacy and fantasy and run with it as if it were common. That happens with many other things besides the topic of this thread. I would rather be inclined to examine the warped state of mind of a woman who'd dress up as a schoolgirl to bring a rise out of a man. Women fantasise about the weirdest things then try to pawn the results ( or perceived results ) on the backs of men. Some women like to be strangled while orgasming, does that mean men are turned on by choking their partner? All these discussions about mens' sexual issues are muddied by feminists with an aganda: the one that plans to paint ALL men as savage sexual brutes. Feminism is the scourge of our time, right alongside with Terrorism and war. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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being turned on is simply emotional or physical,which was the root of my question,,,
physical attraction , I dont believe, has to do with age AFTER puberty hits shapes and curves are shapes and curves, and I believe attraction is not so perverted in and of itself although people are often labeled merely on their 'attraction', regardless of their actions I believe the male of the species is attracted to the female of the species for any number of hormonal and anatomical reasons that aren't tied to age but to anatomy and physical capacity to reproduce I totally understand attractions absolutely do not have to be acted upon, and once they do they fall into a different judgment many a women have felt attraction to a married man but would never cross the line to act on it I dont begrudge their attraction but its not alright to act upon it why are men belittled when it is publically known they are merely attracted to schoolgirls,, if fantasy is indeed something different then action? this is no condoning or begrudging anyones attractions, its merely asking about consistent judgment if schoolgirl is just a fantasy, why is the fantasy of an actual schoolgirl worse than a pretend one? |
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I believe both! Hormones and anatomy
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being turned on is simply emotional or physical,which was the root of my question,,, physical attraction , I dont believe, has to do with age AFTER puberty hits shapes and curves are shapes and curves, and I believe attraction is not so perverted in and of itself although people are often labeled merely on their 'attraction', regardless of their actions I believe the male of the species is attracted to the female of the species for any number of hormonal and anatomical reasons that aren't tied to age but to anatomy and physical capacity to reproduce I totally understand attractions absolutely do not have to be acted upon, and once they do they fall into a different judgment many a women have felt attraction to a married man but would never cross the line to act on it I dont begrudge their attraction but its not alright to act upon it why are men belittled when it is publically known they are merely attracted to schoolgirls,, if fantasy is indeed something different then action? this is no condoning or begrudging anyones attractions, its merely asking about consistent judgment if schoolgirl is just a fantasy, why is the fantasy of an actual schoolgirl worse than a pretend one? So....Miss Harmony...Did you buy the skirt or not? 
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being turned on is simply emotional or physical,which was the root of my question,,, physical attraction , I dont believe, has to do with age AFTER puberty hits shapes and curves are shapes and curves, and I believe attraction is not so perverted in and of itself although people are often labeled merely on their 'attraction', regardless of their actions I believe the male of the species is attracted to the female of the species for any number of hormonal and anatomical reasons that aren't tied to age but to anatomy and physical capacity to reproduce I totally understand attractions absolutely do not have to be acted upon, and once they do they fall into a different judgment many a women have felt attraction to a married man but would never cross the line to act on it I dont begrudge their attraction but its not alright to act upon it why are men belittled when it is publically known they are merely attracted to schoolgirls,, if fantasy is indeed something different then action? this is no condoning or begrudging anyones attractions, its merely asking about consistent judgment if schoolgirl is just a fantasy, why is the fantasy of an actual schoolgirl worse than a pretend one? You women like to assert that men cannot understand what it is to be woman ( how convenient, that way it's easy to discount a man's opinion on women ) but at the same time you pretend to know what makes a man tick in his most private moments. What a psych job.
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being turned on is simply emotional or physical,which was the root of my question,,, physical attraction , I dont believe, has to do with age AFTER puberty hits shapes and curves are shapes and curves, and I believe attraction is not so perverted in and of itself although people are often labeled merely on their 'attraction', regardless of their actions I believe the male of the species is attracted to the female of the species for any number of hormonal and anatomical reasons that aren't tied to age but to anatomy and physical capacity to reproduce I totally understand attractions absolutely do not have to be acted upon, and once they do they fall into a different judgment many a women have felt attraction to a married man but would never cross the line to act on it I dont begrudge their attraction but its not alright to act upon it why are men belittled when it is publically known they are merely attracted to schoolgirls,, if fantasy is indeed something different then action? this is no condoning or begrudging anyones attractions, its merely asking about consistent judgment if schoolgirl is just a fantasy, why is the fantasy of an actual schoolgirl worse than a pretend one? One is fantasizing about something illegal, the other is not. As far as I know, men who have this schoolgirl fantasy want a grown woman to experience it with. Not a schoolgirl. Like 'Daddy Doms' wouldn't want a 6 year old girl to do their thing with. They want a grown woman who enjoys behaving like a young girl and both get a kick out of that. I'm not sure, but isn't it part of the buzz that it's actually a grown woman dressing and behaving like that? Why the one is judged more, I think quite logical: it goes against the norms & values (and laws) of our Western society to want sex with children, and normally speaking people are very protective of children, which is a darned good thing. So even fantasizing about it is not okay, cos it is in fact desiring a young girl, a minor, a child. Judging a schoolgirl fantasy, as in the role-play, is another thing entirely. That is simply not understanding what adults get out of this, thus thinking it weird and judging it. |
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It's Pure Hell at St. Trinian's!  
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I always wondered, barring true pedophilia which actually relates to pre pubescent aged girls why is it seen as a perversion for men to flirt with or be with teenagers, but basically normal and expected for them to fantasize about them(via 'schoolgirl' uniforms for grown women) ? do hormones respond based on age of the stimulant, so to speak or are they strictly animal and instinctive to anatomy? Real good question and I wonder whether any man can give a clear answer to it ... Maybe related to an ancient, basically now obsolete primal instinct to do with healthy offspring, like someone mentioned. Way back when that was necessary to keep the species strong and healthy. Women had babies from different men, so men impregnated different women. I take it ppl didn't get that old back then either, so a younger specimen would likely produce stronger offspring? The uniform ... like Moe said, most are way too provocative and like Blondey said, maybe men have a thing for uniforms too, like us girls do when it comes to men? We don't have school uniforms here, I've seen them in the UK though, and must say that from some schools the skirts are totally ridiculously short. So much so that it's a miracle they aren't arrested for indecent exposure. I'd never ever let my teenage daughter go to school, or anywhere, in a skirt that short. As for the rest, I do think it's kind of sick. Especially with men who have children and maybe grand children even, to lust over young girls or a woman who's dressed like a young girl. And they don't just dress that way, they behave that way too. To each their own, but how someone can fancy that, is beyond me. But then, I'm a mother of 2, and have vivid memories of an ex who was more than interested in my little girl. Left a very very bad taste in my mouth that won't ever go away. . . . the catholic girls out here have some very short skirts as their uniform, sometimes it's really hard not to look, since i have a thing for womens legs anyway... but it's still about self control, no matter how pretty they are... Yeah, I remember when I was still teaching some girl showed an awful lot of cleavage and these days young girls tend to have quite the chest ... Then they bend over to write or read, giving a teacher a real good view of their assets. Even I as a woman was thinking "Bloody 'ell! If a male colleague can't drag his eyes of that fast enough he's going to be in chit. Yet who's to blame here?" I mean, even I as a woman had difficulty dragging my eyes off of it. And no, I'm not interested in women, nor girls. But somehow when you see (partial) nakedness, you just have to look. I seriously felt for my male colleagues, male teachers do get in chit for that sometimes, and sorry to say, I don't think that's really right... Makes me wonder how such short skirts work out, esp now that all girls wear thongs. Must be a sight for sore eyes to teach these days ... |
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Fergie in a school uniform looks like a middle aged slut with psychological problems...to me tho....
I never knew what the big deal is with chicks in school uniforms. It must be perverts/paedophiles that probably end up drooling over them 
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Fergie in a school uniform looks like a middle aged slut with psychological problems...to me tho.... I never knew what the big deal is with chicks in school uniforms. It must be perverts/paedophiles that probably end up drooling over them That's what it comes down to, I agree. Trying to make it sound like the psychological norm for men is sick and insulting. |
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wasn't gonna comment on this one...
but not all men are cruising the parking lots of the high schools or drooling over their daughter's friends that come to the house some men find the idea of lusting after a child repugnant and some women feel the same about looking at a teenage boy as anything other than a child even though he has passed the point of puberty and has muscles and the body structure of a man |
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First of all, I never thought of this as a fantasy...until one night when an ex-girlfriend of mine walked out in one. It was a total turn on for her and she felt I would like it...and she was right. Something about the woman I was with wearing that uniform just made hit every hot button within me.
This is an interesting topic in regards to pedophillia. I never linked the two simply because I always saw this fantasy like any other fantasy. Hell, ever since I was a young boy I have fantasized about Linda Carter as Wonder Woman (I have no shame, lol). Doesn't mean it'll ever happen but when a sexy woman wears that costume I will think back to my fantasy. There are men and women into what is called "Alt" forms of sexual experience such as BDSM (I could list more but they can get graphic...I am sure people know of these and there are some that would shock you.) In any case, if a person is into role playing a rape act, it doesn't mean they actually want to get raped or be the rapee. People are turned on by various things. And yes, some people do take it way too far, which is where I think the school girl fantasy linked with pedophilia comes into play. We all know that pedophilia is so wrong and I actually know a person to whom it was discovered was/is a pedophile. It shocked me, and I actually almost beat the crap out of him when I ran into him one day. Thinking about this fantasy now, I can say that a woman wearing this outfit and fulfilling the fantasy is totally hot. It is even hotter when she is into it just as much as I am. I feel that it brings back a sort of youthful ambiance to both parties. She can feel like she is a teen again, and I can feel like I am getting the hot girl in school. At least this is how I see it. I will add that.......  Brittany didn't help matters for all males....young and old.
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Fergie in a school uniform looks like a middle aged slut with psychological problems...to me tho.... I never knew what the big deal is with chicks in school uniforms. It must be perverts/paedophiles that probably end up drooling over them When I saw that picture on pg 1, I thought it was a bloke ... as in a cross dresser / trans Now I gather she isn't I'm glad I don't have a square jaw like that  Nor the low hairline for that matter
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Edited by
IgorFrankensteen
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Fri 09/23/16 12:25 PM
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Some random additional notes:
* The Fergie picture doesn't exist because Fergie gets off on dressing like that. It exists because some promotional person told her to dress up like that for the shot. Same as the similar Brittany video. * A lot of these young fantasies, are probably directly due to the fact that when we guys WERE the appropriate age to be interested in the girls dressed like that, we were all prohibited from doing anything other than fantasizing. Repeating the fantasy in later age with appropriately aged women, again, has nothing to do with an ongoing desire to have sex with children. It has to do with fulfilling dreams and wishes we had when we WERE young, and is probably also psychologically mixed in with the Adults own normal drive to prove that we can get what we want now. * There are a lot of POLITICS involved with this. And no, I do NOT agree with the anti-women's lib anti-feminist takes on this, I mean that there are lots of people who will refuse to recognize the difference between wanting to fulfill left over childhood wishful imaginings on the one hand, and being stuck in a lustful and dangerous mental state from childhood on. With a lot of political concerns, there is a phenomenon where some people eager to chase down ONE problem, purposely distort their own perceptions, in hopes of tying it to ANOTHER concern, so as to gain more political allies. Hence, people who want to get more help to fight pedophilia and rape, might pretend that these fantasies are NOT what they really are, and instead that anyone who even has the thought of a woman in a pleated skirt and knee-high socks appear in their heads, should be treated like dangerous predators. That's a nasty trick that is common to EVERY political movement you can think of, because it is in the nature of humans to try to gain advantage for themselves, whether they deserve to have that advantage or not. * there are also mixtures of cause and effect going on here. There are the fantasies, and there are the people laughing about them, and there are the people screaming stridently against them, all doing so for almost entirely unrelated reasons. Often, the people fussing or laughing don't even realize it's for different reasons themselves, and so once an argument or discussion starts, instead of everyone sorting things out into separate facets to work out details, they pour all their energy into trying to build ONE picture from what are actually several completely different boxes of puzzle pieces. What I'm getting back to there, is that if you ask "why are males chastised for the same basic fantasy elements in one situation, that they are pilloried for in another? Isn't that contradictory?" , then you are talking about two completely unrelated issues, as though they are one. There is no hypocrisy or contradiction, because it's just a coincidence that the same image is associated with sexual desire in the one case, and with vile attacks on an innocent child in another. |
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Fergie in a school uniform looks like a middle aged slut with psychological problems...to me tho.... I never knew what the big deal is with chicks in school uniforms. It must be perverts/paedophiles that probably end up drooling over them When I saw that picture on pg 1, I thought it was a bloke ... as in a cross dresser / trans Now I gather she isn't I'm glad I don't have a square jaw like that Nor the low hairline for that matter yea, well... all that aside, her legs just don't quit... 
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Fergie in a school uniform looks like a middle aged slut with psychological problems...to me tho.... I never knew what the big deal is with chicks in school uniforms. It must be perverts/paedophiles that probably end up drooling over them When I saw that picture on pg 1, I thought it was a bloke ... as in a cross dresser / trans Now I gather she isn't I'm glad I don't have a square jaw like that Nor the low hairline for that matter yea, well... all that aside, her legs just don't quit... Sure, but I don't envy her for that either, cos I got tha legs myself
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Edited by
mightymoe
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Fri 09/23/16 01:27 PM
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Fergie in a school uniform looks like a middle aged slut with psychological problems...to me tho.... I never knew what the big deal is with chicks in school uniforms. It must be perverts/paedophiles that probably end up drooling over them When I saw that picture on pg 1, I thought it was a bloke ... as in a cross dresser / trans Now I gather she isn't I'm glad I don't have a square jaw like that Nor the low hairline for that matter yea, well... all that aside, her legs just don't quit... Sure, but I don't envy her for that either, cos I got tha legs myself never seen them... post some pics  maybe in a nice Catholic schoolgirl outfit...
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Fergie in a school uniform looks like a middle aged slut with psychological problems...to me tho.... I never knew what the big deal is with chicks in school uniforms. It must be perverts/paedophiles that probably end up drooling over them ohwell I'm with Romeo on this one.... I will add.... While you are a school guy then its okay to fantasize over school girls. Once you leave school, so your fantasy should leave you too, And if its a uniform thing maybe you will get your kicks from nurses, teachers, police (wimmins lol) or whatever ADULT uniform. Yeah - Its sick really! |
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