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| Topic: Coalition of African American Pastors (CAAP) Edorses Trump | |
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4,000 pastors + their flocks + families & friends...seems like a whole lot...
until you consider the fact that in the united states, there are approximately.... 600,000 clergymen and women + their flocks + family & friends. then it seems more like a.....mere drop in the bucket... |
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pastors dont preach about politics congregations go to learn about the bible, not politics congregations have individuals, with different politica interests QUOTE: Hun ? Where?  BLACK PASTORS ALWAYS PREACH POLITICS. Anyone who has been in a more than one BLACK church or heard more than one preach, knows this. They talk far more politics than any other kind of Pastor. WHY? Because way back when, they HAD to & thought it was their duty. They could read & write & had MORE contact with the outside world & were more respected. So they could tell their congregation, what was going on. To this day, the BLACK community, NOT only expects them to be political, but the community holds them & their opinion in high regard. Especially if the Pastor is ordained........ college graduate & not just referring to himself as a Pastor. |
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I have been to more than one have been related to more than one and have heard more than one preach none have endorsed a candidate or focused on politics some have made analogies between politics in the bible and modern times I can reiterate,that black people ( I know and am related to) go to church to hear the Pastor preach on biblical doctrine and history |
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.....It's hilarious how some get pissed when others get a mind of their own and leave the reservation....or, in this case....
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its funny that grown ups get 'pissed' at anyone for having a different opinion
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Project MUSE - African American Preachers and Politics
http//muse.jhu.edu/book/1298/  During most of the twentieth century, Archibald J. Carey, Sr. (1868-1931) and Archibald J. Carey, Jr. (1908-1981), father and son, exemplified a blend of ministry and politics that many African American religious leaders pursued. Their sacred and secular concerns merged in efforts to improve the spiritual and material well-being of their congregations. But as political alliances became necessary, both wrestled with moral consequences and varied outcomes. Both were ministers to Chicago's largest African Methodist Episcopal Church congregations- the senior Carey as a bishop, and the junior Carey as a pastor and an attorney. Bishop Carey associated himself mainly with Chicago mayor William Hale Thompson, a Republican, whom he presented to black voters as an ally. When the mayor appointed Carey to the city's civil service commission, Carey helped in the hiring and promotion of local blacks. But alleged impropriety for selling jobs marred the bishop's tenure. The junior Carey, also a Republican and an alderman, became head of the panel on anti-discrimination in employment for the Eisenhower administration. He aided innumerable black federal employees. Although an influential benefactor of CORE and SCLC, Carey associated with notorious FBI director J. Edgar Hoover and compromised support for Martin Luther King, Jr. Both Careys believed politics offered clergy the best opportunities to empower the black population. Their imperfect alliances and mixed results, however, proved the complexity of combining the realms of spirituality and politics. |
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Edited for targeting other members.
Kindly discuss the topic and NOT others. soufe Site Moderator |
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4,000 pastors + their flocks + families & friends...seems like a whole lot... until you consider the fact that in the united states, there are approximately.... 600,000 clergymen and women + their flocks + family & friends. then it seems more like a.....mere drop in the bucket... Black Pastors? |
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4,000 pastors + their flocks + families & friends...seems like a whole lot... until you consider the fact that in the united states, there are approximately.... 600,000 clergymen and women + their flocks + family & friends. then it seems more like a.....mere drop in the bucket... drop in the bucket?... times what?.. how many black clergy agree with this concept.?,, do you actually know? why dismiss their views... because it goes against the grain.. because it make sense? |
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4,000 pastors + their flocks + families & friends...seems like a whole lot... until you consider the fact that in the united states, there are approximately.... 600,000 clergymen and women + their flocks + family & friends. then it seems more like a.....mere drop in the bucket... drop in the bucket?... times what?.. how many black clergy agree with this concept.?,, do you actually know? why dismiss their views... because it goes against the grain.. because it make sense? since it seems you want me to explain my post for you...i'll give it one (1) try... i didn't dismiss any of the CAAP's viewpoints, in fact, i didn't even mention them.. does it make sense ? .....that's for each individual to research and determine for themselves... i only put into perspective.... that a group of 4,000 (of anything) out of a group totaling 600,000 (of anything) is hardly, as some posters had inferred, ....a HUGE demographic..... but more like .....a mere drop in the bucket.... |
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4,000 pastors + their flocks + families & friends...seems like a whole lot... until you consider the fact that in the united states, there are approximately.... 600,000 clergymen and women + their flocks + family & friends. then it seems more like a.....mere drop in the bucket... drop in the bucket?... times what?.. how many black clergy agree with this concept.?,, do you actually know? why dismiss their views... because it goes against the grain.. because it make sense? since it seems you want me to explain my post for you...i'll give it one (1) try... i didn't dismiss any of the CAAP's viewpoints, in fact, i didn't even mention them.. does it make sense ? .....that's for each individual to research and determine for themselves... i only put into perspective.... that a group of 4,000 (of anything) out of a group totaling 600,000 (of anything) is hardly, as some posters had inferred, ....a HUGE demographic..... but more like .....a mere drop in the bucket.... Its not the number of the Pastors,but the Outreach they have! JMO! |
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it is a small club unless its only for locals if its for national membership, having only 3000 in nearly thirty years is only 100 a year, nationally there is nothing wrong with small groups, again,, just a fact about the numbers and I don't 'have' to be told but if I am told I make sure to avoid the word I also can discern without being told by the context of who is speaking about what and what language THEY are using Listen, Hillary called her followers stupid. She said they were easy to manipulate. These words came from her month If that is who you chose to stand and applaud.. well, Lol.. be my guest. |
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4,000 pastors + their flocks + families & friends...seems like a whole lot... until you consider the fact that in the united states, there are approximately.... 600,000 clergymen and women + their flocks + family & friends. then it seems more like a.....mere drop in the bucket... drop in the bucket?... times what?.. how many black clergy agree with this concept.?,, do you actually know? why dismiss their views... because it goes against the grain.. because it make sense? since it seems you want me to explain my post for you...i'll give it one (1) try... i didn't dismiss any of the CAAP's viewpoints, in fact, i didn't even mention them.. does it make sense ? .....that's for each individual to research and determine for themselves... i only put into perspective.... that a group of 4,000 (of anything) out of a group totaling 600,000 (of anything) is hardly, as some posters had inferred, ....a HUGE demographic..... but more like .....a mere drop in the bucket.... yes, then 4,000 would be small out of 600,000 Where did you come up with 600,000 black pastors in the U.S.? |
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Black Leader Endorses Donald Trump: Democrats ‘Ask Us For Everything, Give Nothing Back’ http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/04/black-leader-endorses-donald-trump-democrats-ask-us-for-everything-give-nothing-back/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social/  The president of the Coalition of African American Pastors (CAAP) endorses Donald Trump for president Rev. William Owens, who is endorsing the Republican candidate as a private citizen, says Trump deserves the chance to prove himself to Christian voters, including those in the black church. He asserts the Democrat Party has offered blacks nothing but failed policies. Owens is planning to hold a press conference about his decision on Monday in the swing state of Nevada. He states: When I was first called to help others, I began an organization called the “Give Me a Chance Ministry.” Our goal was to provide scholarships, tutoring and mentoring programs to underserved students. One of the keys to that remarkably successful program was the fact that we asked nothing from the university involved other than that they give these students a chance to excel. That is the position that I find myself in today when looking at the best candidate for President. Donald Trump has humbly asked the African American community to give him a chance. After witnessing 50 years of failure from the Democratic Party, compounded by a growing hostility to religion in their platform, I feel that it is definitely time that we give Mr. Trump that chance to prove he can be a great President. Owens, a black minister who marched with Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. in the civil rights movement, has launched an ad campaign urging black voters to abandon the failed policies of the Democrat Party. In an open letter to black voters, Owens states: It is time we faced the truth. The policies embraced by the Democrats have failed us for decades. They have destroyed our communities, weakened our families, and doomed us to a future of dependency. What’s more, the Democrats now take our votes for granted and ignore our voices in favor of other interest groups. “Be honest,” Owens addresses black voters. “Can you really say that Hillary Clinton speaks for you? Or understands the African American experience? We’re told that we should vote for her because … well, because blacks have always voted for Democrats.” Owens says he came to the realization that his relationship with the Democrats was “completely one-sided.” “They ask for everything—support, votes, unquestioning loyalty—and give nothing back,” he writes. “If we want to reclaim our power as voters, then African Americans need to demonstrate that we won’t allow ourselves to be used.” Owens has been a fierce opponent of abortion and same-sex marriage. The black leader has condemned the narrative created by President Barack Obama and former Attorney General Eric Holder that black civil rights is analogous to the agenda to achieve same-sex marriage. “President Obama is a disgrace to the black community,” Owens told Breitbart News in March of 2015. “He is rewriting history. We didn’t suffer and die for gay marriage. We marched for opportunity, equality, justice, freedom from oppression. We are the true heirs of the civil rights movement.” CAAP has since launched a new initiative called RISE, a grassroots network that seeks to unite “people of every race, creed, culture, and background,” to focus on defending faith, family, and justice. Owens cites the issue of Supreme Court appointments as a major factor in his decision to endorse Trump. “The simple truth is that the next President will appoint at least one Supreme Court justice, thereby shaping this country for decades to come,” he states. “By promising to nominate only constructionist jurists to the Supreme Court, Donald Trump has demonstrated that people of faith can trust him to defend religious freedom and traditional values.” “On the issue that matters most, Mr. Trump is the only candidate that I could consider voting for,” Owens concludes. ______ Read CAAP’s Open Letter | Coalition of African-American Pastors http://caapusa.org/2016/10/read-caaps-open-letter/ ______ Black Pastors Coalition Leader: Obama's Comparison of Civil Rights and Gay Marriage Struggles a ‘Disgrace to the Black Community’ http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/10/black-pastors-coalition-leader-obamas-comparison-of-civil-rights-and-gay-marriage-struggles-a-disgrace-to-the-black-community/  RISE | Coalition of African-American Pastors http://caapusa.org/membership/rise/  |
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And we've never heard of this "CAAP" before, why? Because it represents about twelve people. Meaningless in any direction. Abbreviation CAAP Formation April 1993 Purpose "Supporting the role of religion in American public life, protecting the lives of the unborn, and defending the sacred institution of marriage." Headquarters Memphis, Tennessee Membership 3,000+[1] President Rev. Williams Owens Website caapusa.org Well, they have been around for awhile, over 3,000 members. And I am sure you never heard of them because you do not follow black pastors... why would you?.. neither do I. But their flock does. And that is who their message was directed at. agreed 3000 in 23 years is not very much, most who aren't local probably never heard of them actually, directing messages to the flock is about 90 percent of what happens every election that's 3,000 Pastors,a pretty sizable Crowd they do represent! Good work Conrad! Hey thats more people than a Hitlery rally. Better to do that research than to just blurt out the party line. Though, i do admire a guy who just blurts out the first thing his party instructs him to say... very brave. |
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it is a small club unless its only for locals if its for national membership, having only 3000 in nearly thirty years is only 100 a year, nationally there is nothing wrong with small groups, again,, just a fact about the numbers and I don't 'have' to be told but if I am told I make sure to avoid the word I also can discern without being told by the context of who is speaking about what and what language THEY are using Listen, Hillary called her followers stupid. She said they were easy to manipulate. These words came from her month If that is who you chose to stand and applaud.. well, Lol.. be my guest. extreme bias is breeding ground for extreme gullibility I have done my own researching,, she didnt say it,, for a number of reasons the information is bogus do your own research |
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as mentioned before,,,
the issue isnt what impact the group has the point is,, as they have been around nearly three decades and opposed obama each time he ran the significance for one candidate over another,, isnt really conclusive in any way |
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