Topic: CPEC
ehsanbaig54321's photo
Wed 11/16/16 07:18 AM
What are reservation of USA about cpec china Pakistan economic Courie door?

carefulwisher's photo
Wed 11/16/16 04:33 PM
You ask this on a dating forum???

OK, since Pakistan contains some of the most beautiful women on Earth, I will offer my wild guess:

The new Trump Administration will have no objection at all, to Beijing and Lahore strengthening their economic ties.

But perhaps India might see it as a threat.

I have read of this project:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/pakistan-battles-energy-shortage-with-floating-liquefied-natural-gas-terminals-1472650249

Perhaps China wants to import Qatari liquefied natural gas through Pakistan?







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Wed 11/16/16 06:57 PM

But perhaps India might see it as a threat.

I think this is about the two completely different ideological views of Obama and Trump. And Pakistan is now concerned.

There is much hostility betwen Pakistan and India. - Pakistan has crossed India's borders.

I think if India sees it as a threat, then Trump and Americans will also.

carefulwisher's photo
Wed 11/16/16 08:10 PM
I think Americans are almost completely ignorant of, and apathetic about, the longstanding Pakistan-India border conflict, also about the recent border clashes between China and India. I also doubt that our new President-elect, Trump, cares much about either dispute.

The small-hotels industry in the U.S. is mostly owned nowadays by immigrants from India; I am unaware of any similar concentration of Pakistani's in the US. Therefore there might be more voices in the US favoring India if any conflict develops between India and Pakistan.

But, as far as I know, the US government has very little influence over the government of India. The US government does have considerable influence over the Pakistani government as a result of the "war on terror" in neighboring Afghanistan and the northern territory of Pakistan.

In the unfortunate event of a war developing between the US and China, my guess is, the US military will occupy Pakistan and use it as a staging area for missile and aircraft strikes against China. Therefore, official US policy toward Pakistan, including the US position with regard to CPEC, will probably be formulated from the perspective of how CPEC would help or hinder such a military takeover, and help or hinder China in the event of such a war.

Aside to Donald Trump: Yes, I'm available for a Cabinet position...

Aside to the Pakistani government: Yes, I'm available for a lobbyist position bigsmile

ehsanbaig54321's photo
Thu 11/17/16 08:26 AM
I agree with you but as far as my concern i think That india Dnt wants growing Pakistan somehow. Modi spreading the extremism and sectarian conflicts In Pakistan. He wants to divert cencentration of Kashmir cause but india fail to do so. Whre as trump policies are not look like favor for Pakistan specially for Muslims.

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Thu 11/17/16 01:36 PM
President-elect Trump merely promised to freeze immigration from those areas where radical Muslim terrorist organizations operate, until reliable facilities and procedures can be created so we can distinguish ISIS members from peaceful immigration applicants.

Given the fact that mass-casualty shooting atrocities were committed by Muslims in Orlando, Florida on June 12, 2016 and in San Bernardino, California on December 2, 2015, Mr. Trump's policy of temporarily halting Muslim immigration until such identification procedures exist is reasonable.

If I were the President I would go much further than Mr. Trump. I believe the US should stop *all* immigration from *everywhere*, no matter what religion, until the US citizens already here have *all* gained economic prosperity.

I want to see the H1B visa program abolished and all the H1B'ers deported. But first their employers, Microsoft, Google et cetera should make them train their American replacements!

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Fri 11/18/16 03:22 AM
Edited by MetroMania on Fri 11/18/16 04:05 AM

I agree with you but as far as my concern i think That india Dnt wants growing Pakistan somehow. Modi spreading the extremism and sectarian conflicts In Pakistan. He wants to divert cencentration of Kashmir cause but india fail to do so. Whre as trump policies are not look like favor for Pakistan specially for Muslims.


India is India and historically Hindu.
Pakistan is Islamic.
The USA is mostly Christian, Protestant.

Would Trump or Americans or India, want any of that to change?
NO noway
Truth is they didn't under Obama either. No matter what Obama said or did. Which is one of the reasons why Clinton lost. She is a little Obama. laugh

ehsanbaig54321's photo
Fri 11/18/16 04:07 AM
If America are really interested And concern to Pakistan then Kashmir cause is nothing issue trump can resolve this issue within a day but he wouldn't because he want to engage pak-india to find his goal. I means his intention againts china..... :blush::blush::wink:

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Fri 11/18/16 04:43 AM
Edited by MetroMania on Fri 11/18/16 04:57 AM

If America are really interested And concern to Pakistan then Kashmir cause is nothing issue trump can resolve this issue within a day but he wouldn't because he want to engage pak-india to find his goal. I means his intention againts china..... :blush::blush::wink:

What!?
Make up your mind.

Do you think, this is about  India, oil, religious persecution or China?

Why do you think, Trump is anti China?
Because we, as Americans don't want to give jobs away anymore? Because only 1/3rd of Americans are working and paying taxes to support, EVERYONE else?

Because Trump echoes what Americas want and have always wanted, and need - to put themselves first ?

Because Trump doesn't think being one of the world's leaders means - a popularity contest?

You do realize, don't you, that Obama was popular in the world but NOT his own country?

Geez; we have enough problems. The world has to sort ITSELF out for awhile. We can't do everything rofl


BTW: Trump is NOT the President until JANUARY 20, 2016 at 12:01 pm, Washington Dc time.

So, maybe Obama could fix it for Pakistan in a day. spock
Unless he is playing golf, or on vacation or hanging out with Jay Z laugh


ehsanbaig54321's photo
Fri 11/18/16 06:29 AM
Im not actually talking about trump bt im trying to draw your concertration towards American policy. One thing you can must admit that now America not safe for minorties. 500 cases being registered voilence againts minorties Last few days then how could say to make America great. ......... And must obeserve wanga prediction about trump.

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Sat 11/19/16 12:04 AM
Edited by MetroMania on Sat 11/19/16 12:07 AM

Im not actually talking about trump bt im trying to draw your concertration towards American policy. One thing you can must admit that now America not safe for minorties. 500 cases being registered voilence againts minorties Last few days then how could say to make America great. ......... And must obeserve wanga prediction about trump.


whoa Turn off the TV

Americans are American policy.
America is not safe for Americans.
REAL AMERICANS, ALL AMERICANS.
As in natual born citizens and naturalized. And LEGAL residents.
And that is under the Democrats.

If the media showed the TRUTH, they would show ALL VIOLENCE, including against Whites, Asians, Jews, Christians, women and children.
Including Pakistani crimes against these groups, in Pakistan spock

Worry about how Pakistan appears to the world. Because it doesn't look good.


If this is about the wall, or extreme vetting or a seeker ban. Oh well.
The people have spoken with their VOTE. Obviously, the majority want this. And every President for the past 20 years or so, has promised this.

NOW..we may actually have one who follows through with it.


We can't wait. drinker


Robxbox73's photo
Sat 11/19/16 12:30 AM
Couldnt care less. Concurrently, you should not care what we think about it. Take care of your own part of the world. We are....Goooooo Trump!!!

carefulwisher's photo
Sun 11/20/16 02:19 AM
I feel pity for you. There you are, on the other side of the planet, striving to make sense of America, when even a large fraction of Americans can't see through the flood of propaganda which gushes from our US media. It is both comical and tragic. Your quest is both noble and heroic.

Four of the five major US TV news networks function entirely as propaganda conduits for the Democratic Party. This is also true of the New York Times and National Public Radio.

The Democratic Party tried to make this election be a referendum on "inclusiveness and justice for every ethnic and gender identity." The Republican Party in recent decades has acted as a regressive, delaying force against this progressive tide, but Donald Trump uniquely succeeded in hijacking the Republican Party in this election and forced the main issue to be economic turnaround. That is why he won. Since the Democrats lost, they are now trying to portray the election as a victory of racist and anti-woman forces. Could it be, that America is so overwhelmingly and shockingly racist? No, it is simply that Americans of all races are overwhelmingly fed up and not willing to take it anymore, of the economic policies and agreements of the last quarter-century which have destroyed the typical American worker's prosperity no matter what his-or-her race.

It is true that minorities, including women, are not safe in many places in America.

It is also true that whites will be a minority in America by 2050, perhaps much sooner.

It is also true that, in most large cities today, whites are not safe, because whites are a minority in most major cities.

The major cities are where the Democratic Party has its strength, where Hillary Clinton scored most of her election-night victories (with the help of a significant amount of vote-fraud). Donald Trump won victories in almost all the rural areas and suburbs, but also he won crucial victories, which made the difference in the election, in some urban areas which were economically devastated by NAFTA, the free trade agreement signed into law by Bill Clinton in 1993, which resulted in catastrophic loss from these cities of automobile, appliance, machine tool, clothing, and textile manufacturing jobs to other nations.

In these cities, located in the Great Lakes region and in the southeastern US, a large fraction of non-whites saw Clinton (quite rightly) not so much as the champion of their "racial justice" interests--which she portrayed herself as, quite deceptively--but rather they viewed her primarily as an economic destroyer of all races, which she really would have been...and thus in these areas enough minority voters voted for Trump to decide the election and give him the overall nationwide victory.

Violent crime against whites, committed by non-whites, is far more common than violent crime against non-whites, committed by whites. And most blacks (90% or more) who are murdered, are murdered by other blacks. But if you form your opinion solely from the distorted picture of America painted by CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, the NYT, or NPR, all of which are Democratic Party "propaganda of ethnic identity politics" conduits, you would not perceive this!

With regard to your own country's new trade agreement with China...I advise you to scrutinize it carefully, to make sure it will not result in all your jobs leaving Pakistan, as NAFTA did to the US!

Conrad_73's photo
Sun 11/20/16 02:39 AM

I feel pity for you. There you are, on the other side of the planet, striving to make sense of America, when even a large fraction of Americans can't see through the flood of propaganda which gushes from our US media. It is both comical and tragic. Your quest is both noble and heroic.

Four of the five major US TV news networks function entirely as propaganda conduits for the Democratic Party. This is also true of the New York Times and National Public Radio.

The Democratic Party tried to make this election be a referendum on "inclusiveness and justice for every ethnic and gender identity." The Republican Party in recent decades has acted as a regressive, delaying force against this progressive tide, but Donald Trump uniquely succeeded in hijacking the Republican Party in this election and forced the main issue to be economic turnaround. That is why he won. Since the Democrats lost, they are now trying to portray the election as a victory of racist and anti-woman forces. Could it be, that America is so overwhelmingly and shockingly racist? No, it is simply that Americans of all races are overwhelmingly fed up and not willing to take it anymore, of the economic policies and agreements of the last quarter-century which have destroyed the typical American worker's prosperity no matter what his-or-her race.

It is true that minorities, including women, are not safe in many places in America.

It is also true that whites will be a minority in America by 2050, perhaps much sooner.

It is also true that, in most large cities today, whites are not safe, because whites are a minority in most major cities.

The major cities are where the Democratic Party has its strength, where Hillary Clinton scored most of her election-night victories (with the help of a significant amount of vote-fraud). Donald Trump won victories in almost all the rural areas and suburbs, but also he won crucial victories, which made the difference in the election, in some urban areas which were economically devastated by NAFTA, the free trade agreement signed into law by Bill Clinton in 1993, which resulted in catastrophic loss from these cities of automobile, appliance, machine tool, clothing, and textile manufacturing jobs to other nations.

In these cities, located in the Great Lakes region and in the southeastern US, a large fraction of non-whites saw Clinton (quite rightly) not so much as the champion of their "racial justice" interests--which she portrayed herself as, quite deceptively--but rather they viewed her primarily as an economic destroyer of all races, which she really would have been...and thus in these areas enough minority voters voted for Trump to decide the election and give him the overall nationwide victory.

Violent crime against whites, committed by non-whites, is far more common than violent crime against non-whites, committed by whites. And most blacks (90% or more) who are murdered, are murdered by other blacks. But if you form your opinion solely from the distorted picture of America painted by CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, the NYT, or NPR, all of which are Democratic Party "propaganda of ethnic identity politics" conduits, you would not perceive this!

With regard to your own country's new trade agreement with China...I advise you to scrutinize it carefully, to make sure it will not result in all your jobs leaving Pakistan, as NAFTA did to the US!

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