Topic: Oenology
curioso186's photo
Mon 04/24/17 03:10 PM
Good night, I'm new here and I do not know if I'm making a mistake when I open the thread in this section, if it is so that the moderators move it where it corresponds (science, etc). The topic is to discuss new trends, advances in winemaking,cellars, new wines, etc.

I apologize for my poor level of English, I do not know if you can open the thread in Spanish.

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 04/24/17 06:46 PM

Hola waving Nz has the best winemakers in the world .. but I am
Biased laugh laugh . What secrets would you like to know ????


The secret is that Blondey111 personally stomps all of the grapes with her bare feet. :tongue:

curioso186's photo
Tue 04/25/17 05:19 AM
Edited by curioso186 on Tue 04/25/17 05:19 AM
Hi Blondey and Dodo, nice to meet you.
NZ has importants cellars (Like Gibson Bridges), very thecnified, working vey well with the grapes Cabernet Sauvignon, Sauvignon Blanc and Riesling, but I think in their wines with Shiraz (Syrah) they are very flat and all with the same style, and it's a shame since they have the conditions (soil, climatology, tecnique) to work with shiraz.

Which wines of NZ do you recommend me?

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 04/25/17 05:28 AM



Hola waving Nz has the best winemakers in the world .. but I am
Biased laugh laugh . What secrets would you like to know ????


The secret is that Blondey111 personally stomps all of the grapes with her bare feet. :tongue:
actually .. since we are talking about secrets ., I don't use my feet .. but I do use another body part rofl rofl waving


huh Oh? Just how many grapes can you sit on each time?

Funzy65's photo
Tue 04/25/17 07:03 AM
Edited by Funzy65 on Tue 04/25/17 07:15 AM
Hi there

I was born on the wynyard back in Eastern Europe.
Our 16 acres of wynyard/s..Some old some new.

I live Down Under now.

As a kid, my job was to drive the 4 bulls pulling a
huge wooden car full of grapes.blushing

As I grew up I was in charge of natural fertilisers dept....lol
Ya know, POP & SHOVEL laugh

I'm not an expert mind you, but I hold a family secret
of making champagne from any quality with just
one grain of old Chinese rice..YES, rice.

I know a bit about wines ..In my opinion, the Red Muscat grapes
and Malaga grapes makes the best sweet red. ..I LOVE SWEET RED.

So it goes for white muscat grapes.

The older the vintage, the better the quality...That's a no brainer
for wine growers.

The less water before harvest, the sweeter the grapes.:wink:

My top favorite Aussie wine will be CIENA by Brown Brothers.
Of-course, we have some exceptional quality our days here in Oz.

My favorite Spanish wines are Alvear PX 1927, Montilla-Moriles,
Moscatel Oro Los Cuartillos , and Suertes del Marqués Listán Blanco Malvasía, Valle de la Orotava (Canary Islands).

I personally love 2 or 3 glasses no more.
What's the point of drinking to get mery ( Akka drunk ),
if ya don't enjoy the flavour & taste.

PS:..Every type or quality of wine have A BODY LANGUAGE.
That's if you get what I meant.:wink:

no photo
Tue 04/25/17 08:49 AM



Hola waving Nz has the best winemakers in the world .. but I am
Biased laugh laugh . What secrets would you like to know ????


The secret is that Blondey111 personally stomps all of the grapes with her bare feet. :tongue:
actually .. since we are talking about secrets ., I don't use my feet .. but I do use another body part rofl rofl waving

Let's hope it's not you're fanny, I did get in a muddle with soufiehere and her thread on 'I have no feet 'surprised laugh

curioso186's photo
Tue 04/25/17 03:26 PM
Hi Funzy, nice to meet you and thx for you post, was very interesting.

I love too the Alvear PX 1927 Pedro Ximenez, it´s spicy ( i apologyze again, i don´t know the tasting terms in english) and with a great coffe and nuts aroma and bouquet, the only default that i found in this wine is that has hight acetaldehyde.

The wine called Suertes del Marqués (2010, white wine) making with malvasía and listán blanco is marvellous, perhaps one of the best white wines that i tasted in the last years. Try to taste somes wines with the grape "Listán Negro", it´s not so expensive (20 €) and spectacular wine for it´s price is the wine called "Ariadna" Bodegas "El Grifo".

If you like sweet wines i can recommend you the wines making in Ribeiro (Galicia, Spain) called "Tostados de Ribiero", they don´t do it like Tokaji or Sauternes wines ( with Botritys Cinerea), the desiccate the grape with wind.

Will be a pleasure taste your sparkling wines, i´m sure that will be so tasty.

no photo
Tue 04/25/17 03:32 PM



Hola waving Nz has the best winemakers in the world .. but I am
Biased laugh laugh . What secrets would you like to know ????


The secret is that Blondey111 personally stomps all of the grapes with her bare feet. :tongue:
actually .. since we are talking about secrets ., I don't use my feet .. but I do use another body part rofl rofl waving

What do you add to create the Sparkling wine variety?...tongue2

Dodo_David's photo
Tue 04/25/17 03:35 PM




Hola waving Nz has the best winemakers in the world .. but I am
Biased laugh laugh . What secrets would you like to know ????


The secret is that Blondey111 personally stomps all of the grapes with her bare feet. :tongue:
actually .. since we are talking about secrets ., I don't use my feet .. but I do use another body part rofl rofl waving

Let's hope it's not you're fanny, I did get in a muddle with soufiehere and her thread on 'I have no feet 'surprised laugh


Uh, do you know what the word fanny means in New Zealand?

Funzy65's photo
Tue 04/25/17 05:43 PM
Edited by Funzy65 on Tue 04/25/17 06:04 PM

Hi Funzy, nice to meet you and thx for you post, was very interesting.

I love too the Alvear PX 1927 Pedro Ximenez, it´s spicy ( i apologyze again, i don´t know the tasting terms in english) and with a great coffe and nuts aroma and bouquet, the only default that i found in this wine is that has hight acetaldehyde.

The wine called Suertes del Marqués (2010, white wine) making with malvasía and listán blanco is marvellous, perhaps one of the best white wines that i tasted in the last years. Try to taste somes wines with the grape "Listán Negro", it´s not so expensive (20 €) and spectacular wine for it´s price is the wine called "Ariadna" Bodegas "El Grifo".

If you like sweet wines i can recommend you the wines making in Ribeiro (Galicia, Spain) called "Tostados de Ribiero", they don´t do it like Tokaji or Sauternes wines ( with Botritys Cinerea), the desiccate the grape with wind.

Will be a pleasure taste your sparkling wines, i´m sure that will be so tasty.

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Hi there " curioso186 "

All wines have preserv or " acetaldehyde " these days ( Poison ).
Can't escape from that unless one makes his/her own.

Thanks for directing me towards Ribeiro ( Galicia ) region .

Tostados by Ribeiro or Adriana by El Grifo ?? :wink:

Will try to find it when I go visit my daughter
in the big smoke city of Sydney next time :thumbsup:

I live Far Out West country, and the SPECIALTY WINE SHOPS
ARE ONLY WHERE THE BIG MONEY FLOWS :wink:

Pleasure talking with you :thumbsup:

Oh..Forgive me for not minding my own business :wink:

I suggest you add some sparks & spices to your profile .
Looks dry and empty as it is :wink:
I am sure you can easy find a gal to have an Intelligent,
decent and interesting conversation/s .

Looks to me you have the potential ( For now )

GIVE IT A TRY :wink:

Funzy65's photo
Tue 04/25/17 05:48 PM
Edited by Funzy65 on Tue 04/25/17 05:59 PM





Hola waving Nz has the best winemakers in the world .. but I am
Biased laugh laugh . What secrets would you like to know ????


The secret is that Blondey111 personally stomps all of the grapes with her bare feet. :tongue:
actually .. since we are talking about secrets ., I don't use my feet .. but I do use another body part rofl rofl waving

Let's hope it's not you're fanny, I did get in a muddle with soufiehere and her thread on 'I have no feet 'surprised laugh


Uh, do you know what the word fanny means in New Zealand?

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With regard to your question..laugh
I should know :wink: as a neighbour laugh

Shhhh David, DON'T MENTION IT laugh

Unlike in England for " beltbag " or " bumbag " ?

rofl rofl

curioso186's photo
Wed 04/26/17 05:43 AM


Hi Funzy, nice to meet you and thx for you post, was very interesting.

I love too the Alvear PX 1927 Pedro Ximenez, it´s spicy ( i apologyze again, i don´t know the tasting terms in english) and with a great coffe and nuts aroma and bouquet, the only default that i found in this wine is that has hight acetaldehyde.

The wine called Suertes del Marqués (2010, white wine) making with malvasía and listán blanco is marvellous, perhaps one of the best white wines that i tasted in the last years. Try to taste somes wines with the grape "Listán Negro", it´s not so expensive (20 €) and spectacular wine for it´s price is the wine called "Ariadna" Bodegas "El Grifo".

If you like sweet wines i can recommend you the wines making in Ribeiro (Galicia, Spain) called "Tostados de Ribiero", they don´t do it like Tokaji or Sauternes wines ( with Botritys Cinerea), the desiccate the grape with wind.

Will be a pleasure taste your sparkling wines, i´m sure that will be so tasty.

*********************************************

Hi there " curioso186 "

All wines have preserv or " acetaldehyde " these days ( Poison ).
Can't escape from that unless one makes his/her own.

Thanks for directing me towards Ribeiro ( Galicia ) region .

Tostados by Ribeiro or Adriana by El Grifo ?? :wink:

Will try to find it when I go visit my daughter
in the big smoke city of Sydney next time :thumbsup:

I live Far Out West country, and the SPECIALTY WINE SHOPS
ARE ONLY WHERE THE BIG MONEY FLOWS :wink:

Pleasure talking with you :thumbsup:

Oh..Forgive me for not minding my own business :wink:

I suggest you add some sparks & spices to your profile .
Looks dry and empty as it is :wink:
I am sure you can easy find a gal to have an Intelligent,
decent and interesting conversation/s .

Looks to me you have the potential ( For now )

GIVE IT A TRY :wink:



The hight presence of acetaldehyde means that the wine has been oxidized to excess, but this is not uncommon in PX wines, but in this case ( Alvear PX 1927) it makes me very noticeable in the nose. Perhaps you would like to say sulphurous gas (SO2), which is used to prevent the onset of fungal, bacterial, oxidation and oxidase reactions.

I personally prefer the Tostados de Ribeiro, but they are much more expensive (around € 50 a pint) than the Ariadna (like the Greek myth of Ariadna).


Thanks for the advice on my profile, I am new and I still do not dominate the web (and I am not premium)

Funzy65's photo
Wed 04/26/17 06:06 AM
Edited by Funzy65 on Wed 04/26/17 06:32 AM



Hi Funzy, nice to meet you and thx for you post, was very interesting.

I love too the Alvear PX 1927 Pedro Ximenez, it´s spicy ( i apologyze again, i don´t know the tasting terms in english) and with a great coffe and nuts aroma and bouquet, the only default that i found in this wine is that has hight acetaldehyde.

The wine called Suertes del Marqués (2010, white wine) making with malvasía and listán blanco is marvellous, perhaps one of the best white wines that i tasted in the last years. Try to taste somes wines with the grape "Listán Negro", it´s not so expensive (20 €) and spectacular wine for it´s price is the wine called "Ariadna" Bodegas "El Grifo".

If you like sweet wines i can recommend you the wines making in Ribeiro (Galicia, Spain) called "Tostados de Ribiero", they don´t do it like Tokaji or Sauternes wines ( with Botritys Cinerea), the desiccate the grape with wind.

Will be a pleasure taste your sparkling wines, i´m sure that will be so tasty.

*********************************************

Hi there " curioso186 "

All wines have preserv or " acetaldehyde " these days ( Poison ).
Can't escape from that unless one makes his/her own.

Thanks for directing me towards Ribeiro ( Galicia ) region .

Tostados by Ribeiro or Adriana by El Grifo ?? :wink:

Will try to find it when I go visit my daughter
in the big smoke city of Sydney next time :thumbsup:

I live Far Out West country, and the SPECIALTY WINE SHOPS
ARE ONLY WHERE THE BIG MONEY FLOWS :wink:

Pleasure talking with you :thumbsup:

Oh..Forgive me for not minding my own business :wink:

I suggest you add some sparks & spices to your profile .
Looks dry and empty as it is :wink:
I am sure you can easy find a gal to have an Intelligent,
decent and interesting conversation/s .

Looks to me you have the potential ( For now )

GIVE IT A TRY :wink:



The hight presence of acetaldehyde means that the wine has been oxidized to excess, but this is not uncommon in PX wines, but in this case ( Alvear PX 1927) it makes me very noticeable in the nose. Perhaps you would like to say sulphurous gas (SO2), which is used to prevent the onset of fungal, bacterial, oxidation and oxidase reactions.

I personally prefer the Tostados de Ribeiro, but they are much more expensive (around € 50 a pint) than the Ariadna (like the Greek myth of Ariadna).


Thanks for the advice on my profile, I am new and I still do not dominate the web (and I am not premium)


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SULPHATES ..I know what is to know friend.

Personally I am a bit allergic to all kinds.
MSG, Sulphates, artif sweets, Preserv.

I am careful what I eat or drink.
Mostly raw organic food my diet consists of.

At my age of 65 and over, I still don't have
a medical file or record/s yet..:wink:

I must of done something right :wink:

One never dominates the web, just plays along.
That's best way to be to survive the dingoes, snakes & sharks .:wink:

TRUST ME, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BECOME PREMIUM MEMBER TO ENJOY
MOST OF THE BENEFITS.....FREE IS JUST AS GOOD.
Visit the forums and learn from the veterans.:wink:

You will cross many kinds of people.
Some will PUT YOU DOWN, some WILL GUIDE & HELP you.

AVOID the ONES WHO LIKE TO BE TOO PHILOSOPHIC & OUTSMART YOU laugh
You will meet ONE DUDE IN PARTICULAR laugh ( I will not mention his name yet ):wink: ....
He loves himself and OUTSMARTS THE NEWBIES
or ANYONE he can WALK OVER....Thinks is SMART wearing his smart hat
and hiding under 2 profiles the least ?? laugh ....ANYWAY
At least he shaved lately laugh You will know him soon laugh

Once you get familiar with the forums, you will love it.

Best of luck :thumbsup: