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well ican agree with the concept it is the practicality of it that is problem after all how often do any of us take advice from some one that has not got a stake in the backlash of their advice What about the practicalities? Is it practical to prevent people who are seriously disadvantaged to enter a country with such a large border? Is it practical to allow 12 million people to wander under the radar, when you could legislate for them so that they could work legally and pay taxes? Is it practical to have these people found and then expelled, when all they will do is return in a different way? The practicalities make for startling realities. It is inevitable that the immigration issue will continue to be debated, but ultimately they will come back time and time again, because the alternative is death. |
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well ican agree with the concept it is the practicality of it that is problem after all how often do any of us take advice from some one that has not got a stake in the backlash of their advice What about the practicalities? Is it practical to prevent people who are seriously disadvantaged to enter a country with such a large border? Is it practical to allow 12 million people to wander under the radar, when you could legislate for them so that they could work legally and pay taxes? Is it practical to have these people found and then expelled, when all they will do is return in a different way? The practicalities make for startling realities. It is inevitable that the immigration issue will continue to be debated, but ultimately they will come back time and time again, because the alternative is death. is it practical to have those with no reguard for the law to be permitted to invade your country |
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two subjects here in these forums...the US and the US... no matter what the OP...two subjects only are allowed to end up the topic of discussion....the US and the US....
Blah blah blah... 
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well ican agree with the concept it is the practicality of it that is problem after all how often do any of us take advice from some one that has not got a stake in the backlash of their advice What about the practicalities? Is it practical to prevent people who are seriously disadvantaged to enter a country with such a large border? Is it practical to allow 12 million people to wander under the radar, when you could legislate for them so that they could work legally and pay taxes? Is it practical to have these people found and then expelled, when all they will do is return in a different way? The practicalities make for startling realities. It is inevitable that the immigration issue will continue to be debated, but ultimately they will come back time and time again, because the alternative is death. what differnce does the size of the border make -----are you trying to change the law in your country -----to allow illegals to invade your country and -----better their lives after all -----your country has a better economy -----until you change the rules in your country -----stop trying to change the rule in mine coming back that is why the borders need to be secured |
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Is it practical to hold water in your open hand?
No, of course not. But you cannot stop them coming in, like you cannot stop the water from running through your fingers. So, instead of attempting to stop it and failing, get a bucket to hold it all in. |
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two subjects here in these forums...the US and the US... no matter what the OP...two subjects only are allowed to end up the topic of discussion....the US and the US.... Blah blah blah... well i did not start the discussion i just joined in all this immigration crap i agree why don't we all just work on the laws in our own country and when the laws let everyone and anyone in your country then move to a bordering country |
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what differnce does the size of the border make -----are you trying to change the law in your country -----to allow illegals to invade your country and -----better their lives after all -----your country has a better economy -----until you change the rules in your country -----stop trying to change the rule in mine coming back that is why the borders need to be secured I think you will find that the rules have been changed to allow illegals to work in my country, until they find a way of becoming legal Invasion? Robin, you are so prone to over-exaggerations!!!  the 9000 miles of land borders and sea borders of the US (incl Alaska and G't'mo) cannot possibly secured ... Give me a realistic way of doing that? |
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Is it practical to hold water in your open hand? No, of course not. But you cannot stop them coming in, like you cannot stop the water from running through your fingers. So, instead of attempting to stop it and failing, get a bucket to hold it all in. well if you close your fingers you can get a good enough drink to save your life if dieing of thirst 
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but not for long ...
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what differnce does the size of the border make -----are you trying to change the law in your country -----to allow illegals to invade your country and -----better their lives after all -----your country has a better economy -----until you change the rules in your country -----stop trying to change the rule in mine coming back that is why the borders need to be secured I think you will find that the rules have been changed to allow illegals to work in my country, until they find a way of becoming legal Invasion? Robin, you are so prone to over-exaggerations!!! the 9000 miles of land borders and sea borders of the US (incl Alaska and G't'mo) cannot possibly secured ... Give me a realistic way of doing that? well then if we can have 12 million foreign nationals here and unwanted and it is not an invasion then i guess a mere 200,000 americans in iraq is a walk in the park |
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but not for long ... but maybe long enough to get you to a better source |
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what differnce does the size of the border make -----are you trying to change the law in your country -----to allow illegals to invade your country and -----better their lives after all -----your country has a better economy -----until you change the rules in your country -----stop trying to change the rule in mine coming back that is why the borders need to be secured I think you will find that the rules have been changed to allow illegals to work in my country, until they find a way of becoming legal Invasion? Robin, you are so prone to over-exaggerations!!! the 9000 miles of land borders and sea borders of the US (incl Alaska and G't'mo) cannot possibly secured ... Give me a realistic way of doing that? so if i come to london and do not leave i can stay and work there till i figure out how to do it legally interesting now all i gotta do is figure out how to get there |
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what differnce does the size of the border make -----are you trying to change the law in your country -----to allow illegals to invade your country and -----better their lives after all -----your country has a better economy -----until you change the rules in your country -----stop trying to change the rule in mine coming back that is why the borders need to be secured I think you will find that the rules have been changed to allow illegals to work in my country, until they find a way of becoming legal Invasion? Robin, you are so prone to over-exaggerations!!! the 9000 miles of land borders and sea borders of the US (incl Alaska and G't'mo) cannot possibly secured ... Give me a realistic way of doing that? well then if we can have 12 million foreign nationals here and unwanted and it is not an invasion then i guess a mere 200,000 americans in iraq is a walk in the park Hmmm, do the illegals have bombs, and warplanes, and guns and stuff handed to them by their government.... ok, I hadn't seen that bit in the news. Robin.... really.... |
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well then if we can have 12 million foreign nationals here and unwanted and it is not an invasion then i guess a mere 200,000 americans in iraq is a walk in the park ... and you and I both know that 200,000 Americans in Iraq is an invasion due to a despotic criminal trying to land grab for oil. 12 million illegals in the US are trying to run away from one despotic criminal to another, but they are not trying to land grab for oil |
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but not for long ... but maybe long enough to get you to a better source Or you find another way of doing it |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Wed 11/28/07 04:30 AM
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what differnce does the size of the border make -----are you trying to change the law in your country -----to allow illegals to invade your country and -----better their lives after all -----your country has a better economy -----until you change the rules in your country -----stop trying to change the rule in mine coming back that is why the borders need to be secured we don't know but they can learn to fly airplanes into buildings lee really they can do that I think you will find that the rules have been changed to allow illegals to work in my country, until they find a way of becoming legal Invasion? Robin, you are so prone to over-exaggerations!!! the 9000 miles of land borders and sea borders of the US (incl Alaska and G't'mo) cannot possibly secured ... Give me a realistic way of doing that? well then if we can have 12 million foreign nationals here and unwanted and it is not an invasion then i guess a mere 200,000 americans in iraq is a walk in the park Hmmm, do the illegals have bombs, and warplanes, and guns and stuff handed to them by their government.... ok, I hadn't seen that bit in the news. Robin.... really.... but they can learn how to fly airplanes into buildings really they can |
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Edited by
Belushi
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Wed 11/28/07 04:21 AM
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so if i come to london and do not leave i can stay and work there till i figure out how to do it legally interesting now all i gotta do is figure out how to get there Exactly. You would come over here, get a job and somewhere to live, and then apply for political asylum ... (They would understand) Takes about 3 years to get turned down, so then you move to France, try there, and then come back to the UK and try again. |
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so if i come to london and do not leave i can stay and work there till i figure out how to do it legally interesting now all i gotta do is figure out how to get there Exactly. You would come over here, get a job and somewhere to live, and then apply for political asylum ... (They would understand) Takes about 3 years to get turned down, so then you move to France, try there, and then come back to the UK and try again. but i get turned down what happens if i refuse to leave |
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so if i come to london and do not leave i can stay and work there till i figure out how to do it legally interesting now all i gotta do is figure out how to get there Exactly. You would come over here, get a job and somewhere to live, and then apply for political asylum ... (They would understand) Takes about 3 years to get turned down, so then you move to France, try there, and then come back to the UK and try again. but i get turned down what happens if i refuse to leave i am pretty sure you can do that here as well |
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If you refuse to leave, then they give you a lawyer, and money to fight the case with, and they look at your political situation and see that you are an american, so they would give you a one year working visa renewable every year.
We would rather tax you than have you leave. If you have done anything illegal, we will put you in jail, then release you to fight your application for legal status |
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