Topic: oil$>stocks, not T-Bills?????
wouldee's photo
Tue 11/27/07 02:56 PM
Edited by wouldee on Tue 11/27/07 02:57 PM
Oil revenues from foreign producers are finding their way into stock ownership of American businesses.

Is this good for the Dollar?

If the investment of foreign revenue generated from purchases made in U.S. dollars re-enters the cash flow stream as investment in the U.S. economy in the market of free enterprise as a new trend for use of the Dollar, does that mean that others that follow that example, i.e. the Chinese, are more inclined to invest in ownership of revenue generation and less inclined to invest in U.S.Treasuries now, or are they intent upon conquering our autonomy and creating a sub-serviant role for the American populus that would abrogate our liberties and privileges to their eventual command?

Or, could it mean that they believe in our system and genuinely support the strength and stability of the U.S. currency?

Or, ??????????????



huh

wouldee's photo
Tue 11/27/07 03:06 PM
TO THE CATACOMBS THIS GOES, I suppose........



smokin drinker bigsmile

nuenjins's photo
Tue 11/27/07 03:20 PM
I believe that America has lost it's vision as we are scattered and becoming more debased as a society. Hence, we no longer care about America being self reliant and strong, instead it has become all about the "bottom line". Americas new major religion is greed which is the root of all kinds of evil. We are becoming little more to the world than 'paper pushers and are quickly becoming 'dispensible' to the rest of the world.

Much like the Roman Empire, our immorality is catching up to us, yet we are blind or in denial that it's even taking place. Societies who abuse their own people are now 'bedfellows' with the nation that was intended to lead the way and we have settled. Blind national pride and greed coupled with a downhill slope of immorality.drinker -(us) I think we are being set up as we sleep.indifferent

wouldee's photo
Tue 11/27/07 03:25 PM
There exists an ancient saying, quite easily read by anyone, that I never see or hear quoted except in my own head.



" where the stall is empty, the crib is clean.
But much increase is by the strength of the ox."



smokin drinker bigsmile

no photo
Tue 11/27/07 03:32 PM
How can anybody in his right mind see this as spam/advertisement?

Really, peoplenoway

ArtGurl's photo
Tue 11/27/07 03:50 PM
off the chopping block ...

Hi Andrea ... yes ridiculous isn't it? grumble

creativesoul's photo
Tue 11/27/07 04:08 PM
Again... focus on your elected officials...

Wake Up America!!

Fajinkeeperofsecrets's photo
Tue 11/27/07 04:18 PM
Don't vote for yourself vote for your neighbor.

wouldee's photo
Tue 11/27/07 04:49 PM
Edited by wouldee on Tue 11/27/07 04:52 PM
cash makes cash makes cash makes....

cash is access is opportunity is markets is trade is equity is cash is access is...................


Where are the jobs?

Where is the access to cash?


Oh yeah, i forgot.....in equity


Dylan coined ( pun intended) the phrase, " watch out kids, you're gonna git hit....." more than 40 years ago.sick






brrrr....it's cold outside.....

s1owhand's photo
Tue 11/27/07 05:16 PM
in the following article from the WSJ,
the activities of the gulf oil states are discussed
as contributing to a gulf oil state financial bubble...

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110008078

the article is old and i wonder if the signs of
an unstable financial situation in the gulf are
still present, somewhat relaxed a year later or
even more pronounced....

wouldee's photo
Tue 11/27/07 05:25 PM
that could very well be part of the news today that caught my eye, s1ow.

Dubai oil money ( if I remember the quick flash ) was buying western banks.

The markets are nervous and cash flow is tight in the banking community.

The housing mortgage resets combined with slow or no equity growth in house prices is stagnating the market place.

The bankers are very nervous of the unreported faalout of bad loans closing some institutions and freezing the daily flow of capital.

I can't tell if it's a bandaid or an opportunity.huh

s1owhand's photo
Tue 11/27/07 05:47 PM
it is weiji

危機

:wink:

as i understand it the principal issue with oil money
purchasing of U.S. companies is political due to security
concerns rather than concerns of foreign ownership.

since the purchase of U.S. assets puts the capital in
the hands of the seller - the U.S. company ownership,
then this is influx of capital to the U.S. company owners
and this capital can then seek improved returns
elsewhere. so it does not appear to be a monetary policy
issue primarily.

a more serious challenge to the U.S. dollar may be
irresponsible spending by our government which is increasing
U.S. governmental debt to the point where concerns on debt
quality may arise. such concerns could drive up the cost
of money in the U.S. and cause a credit squeeze which
further reduces debt quality...etc.

a way to address the debt/weak dollar concern
may be to control spending and reduce debt growth....

wouldee's photo
Tue 11/27/07 06:16 PM
YUP...

which leads me to suspect that foreign holdings in Dollars are safer and more productively applied to the free market than to returning the Dollars to the Fed for T-Bills and further erosion of the Dollar as occurs with runaway Government spending.

The return on capital is greater through ownership and direct investment and historically has outperformed passive investments.

Controlling interests in Boards is easier to accomplish profitable goals than dealing with government oversight about access to markets is.

I see a potential for a wider ruling class without representation of the working class that may well be a collateral loss worth the risk , to the sellers , at the expense of preservation of capital.

Smart but expedient. Not looking good.sick

s1owhand's photo
Tue 11/27/07 06:20 PM
the money from the sales will be used to buy (create)
other (new) undervalued companies poised for better growth
if it is done right.


wouldee's photo
Tue 11/27/07 06:55 PM
The free market does like expansion.

Investment does yield growth.

sow seed to eat, plant and sell.

All good.

Maybe it will spawn a new run up and boom.

Thanks for the bright side, s1ow !!! :wink:

s1owhand's photo
Tue 11/27/07 06:59 PM
Edited by s1owhand on Tue 11/27/07 07:00 PM
:tongue:

<------awaits the gulf oil bubble crash devil
while watching Beverly Hillbillies reruns...

laugh