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Topic: Who Gets Credit
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Wed 09/12/18 04:50 PM
FACT CHECK: Who Gets Credit For The Booming U.S. Economy?

The U.S. economy is chugging along. Employers added 201,000 jobs last month, and the unemployment rate held steady at a low 3.9 percent. Average wages in August were nearly 3 percent higher than they were a year ago.

Who should get the credit for that strong performance?

http://www.npr.org/2018/09/12/646708799/fact-check-who-gets-credit-for-the-booming-u-s-economy

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Wed 09/12/18 06:18 PM
I believe lack of skilled to fill skilled jobs, and the lack of entry level workers willing to take minimum wage jobs has forced the hands of employers to offer more in the competitive market to get employees. Its the law of supply and demand. The economy has always had boom and bust cycles so to say the former or current POTUS had more or less impact on this probably has very little to do with any of this.

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Wed 09/12/18 06:51 PM
Answer : NOT TRUMP NeedToImpeach.com. #notmypresident

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Wed 09/12/18 10:20 PM

I believe lack of skilled to fill skilled jobs, and the lack of entry level workers willing to take minimum wage jobs has forced the hands of employers to offer more in the competitive market to get employees. Its the law of supply and demand. The economy has always had boom and bust cycles so to say the former or current POTUS had more or less impact on this probably has very little to do with any of this.


I was watching a program discussing the lack of skilled workers. We need more companies who do apprenticeship programs. My exhusband learned a lot from his boss who went to work teaching at west central after our company closed. My ex got paid for on the job training while others pay to learn the same program. Apprenticeship programs used to be a lot more common. Investing in training is how companies can give back to workers and community. My company has been paying me to train. In the end I will be an asset to the company. Not being able to find skilled workers is why they gave me a shot at the job. Supply and demand :thinking:

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Wed 09/12/18 11:07 PM
Edited by indianadave4 on Wed 09/12/18 11:11 PM
During the 2016 election the democrat's and news media said wall street will crash if Trump is elected.

Throughout 2017 the democrat's and news media said the gains in the economy had nothing to do with President Trump.

During the late winter and early spring of this year the democrat's and news media blamed the wall street corrections all on President Trump.

Is President Trump the cause for Hurricane Florence?

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Thu 09/13/18 07:31 AM
Lol, is this supposed to be a serious post. Ok I'll play along. Without a dought it is President Donald Trump that should get does get the credit from anybody tuned into reality.ill give Obama 15% credit. And I'm being generous . No matter what the fake abc poll says.

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Fri 09/14/18 03:19 AM
If Trump is doing such a bad job running the country, why is Obama trying to take credit for it? :thinking: :sweat_smile:

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Fri 09/14/18 03:32 AM
Edited by Lpdon on Fri 09/14/18 03:38 AM
Let's also remember that Obama was President when the economy tanked!

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Fri 09/14/18 03:40 AM
Let's also remember who was President for a couple of years already when the United States had the first drop in our credit rating in the entire history of our country.

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Fri 09/14/18 03:43 AM

FACT CHECK: Who Gets Credit For The Booming U.S. Economy?

The U.S. economy is chugging along. Employers added 201,000 jobs last month, and the unemployment rate held steady at a low 3.9 percent. Average wages in August were nearly 3 percent higher than they were a year ago.

Who should get the credit for that strong performance?

http://www.npr.org/2018/09/12/646708799/fact-check-who-gets-credit-for-the-booming-u-s-economy
yep,National Public Radio,News you can trust!rofl

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Fri 09/14/18 03:46 AM
Edited by Lpdon on Fri 09/14/18 03:56 AM

Answer : NOT TRUMP NeedToImpeach.com. #notmypresident


Democrats are sore losers. Because they didn't win the election their answer is to try to impeach going against the what the voters chose because they didn't get their way.

Even the top leaders of the Democrats have said that trying to impeach President Trump is a horrible idea and will help Republicans win in 2018 and 2020.

I hope they do try to impeach him because not only will it help Republicans but it has ZERO chance of passing since first they need a "High crime" to charge him with and also they need a 2/3rd majority in both the House and Senate and that wont happen but please, keep talking about impeachment. It helps Republicans every time it is mentioned!

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Fri 09/14/18 03:56 AM
Edited by Lpdon on Fri 09/14/18 03:59 AM

If Trump is doing such a bad job running the country, why is Obama trying to take credit for it? :thinking: :sweat_smile:


Because lying, blaming everyone else for all the massive screw ups he made and or overlooked and embarrassments when he was President and taking credit for all of the accomplishments of other people is what Obama was good at.

That guy was one big screw up. The best part of him ran down his mommas butt cheeks during conception.

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Fri 09/14/18 04:00 AM


FACT CHECK: Who Gets Credit For The Booming U.S. Economy?

The U.S. economy is chugging along. Employers added 201,000 jobs last month, and the unemployment rate held steady at a low 3.9 percent. Average wages in August were nearly 3 percent higher than they were a year ago.

Who should get the credit for that strong performance?

http://www.npr.org/2018/09/12/646708799/fact-check-who-gets-credit-for-the-booming-u-s-economy
yep,National Public Radio,News you can trust!rofl


NPR is the media am of the DNC and Democrats.

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Fri 09/14/18 04:10 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Fri 09/14/18 04:13 AM

Answer : NOT TRUMP Need ToImpeach.com. #notmypresident
Naw,definitely not yours!rofl

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Sat 09/15/18 04:46 PM
Edited by indianadave4 on Sat 09/15/18 04:47 PM


Answer : NOT TRUMP NeedToImpeach.com. #notmypresident


Democrats are sore losers. Because they didn't win the election their answer is to try to impeach going against the what the voters chose because they didn't get their way.

Even the top leaders of the Democrats have said that trying to impeach President Trump is a horrible idea and will help Republicans win in 2018 and 2020.

I hope they do try to impeach him because not only will it help Republicans but it has ZERO chance of passing since first they need a "High crime" to charge him with and also they need a 2/3rd majority in both the House and Senate and that wont happen but please, keep talking about impeachment. It helps Republicans every time it is mentioned!


The one mistake that the republican house of representatives recently made was not putting forward the democratic bill to close ICE down. Had this bill been pushed to a vote it would have shown the true colors of some democratic members. This "eliminate ICE" bill was a win Hispanic vote political move.

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Sat 09/15/18 08:05 PM
^^^^ I pin that flop on Paul Ryan. I used to think he was a worthwhile person to be speaker. Now I wouldn't vote for that guy to be riding on the back of a garbage truck. He's about as useful as Jeff Sessions.

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Sat 09/15/18 08:37 PM
FACT CHECK: Who Gets Credit For The Booming U.S. Economy?

Unfortunately, presidents and government officials tend to be given credit.
Usually by stupid people.
And the even more moronic tend to argue about which one is "really" to blame/credit.

If the president is really so powerful to be able to influence the entire economy to such a degree, that should scare the crap out of everyone.

Especially republicans and those that actually want limited government. Wasn't the entire point of having completely separate branches of government to avoid something like that?

Some people are always looking for a scapegoat to ostracize and feel in control and powerful, or the hero to validate themselves through a false sense of shared community, though.

Unfortunately, the morons that do, the latter, think they're fighting a "good" fight when really they're just contributing to the same problem.
It legitimizes the idea that the president/government should have the power to influence the economy to such a degree.

Who should get the credit for that strong performance?

No one.
It's mostly like watching a tide and giving credit for the rising due to the person standing on the beach at the time.

Other than that, what "should" be going on is people smart enough to go to the government websites, look up the government published numbers, dissect them, question them, and look into how the government is getting the numbers they are getting, how they are "crunching" them, and how they (and media) are coming to the conclusions they are coming to and why.

Otherwise it's no different than just reading headlines and knee jerk reacting wanting to form an opinionated judgment so as not to be left behind by some perceived peer group.

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Sun 09/16/18 01:44 PM


If Trump is doing such a bad job running the country, why is Obama trying to take credit for it? :thinking: :sweat_smile:


Because lying, blaming everyone else for all the massive screw ups he made and or overlooked and embarrassments when he was President and taking credit for all of the accomplishments of other people is what Obama was good at.

That guy was one big screw up. The best part of him ran down his mommas butt cheeks during conception.


I hear this claim all the time here that Obama was nothing but a liar, but no one can tell me the top 10 lies he told. I even gave the first one for free "You can keep your own doctor". I have yet to hear the other 9 lies that complete his Top 10.

On the other hand, I can easily give you the top 10 lies that our current guy has pushed in the past 18 months, without even working up a sweat.

Obama owns this good economy, a simple look at the charts pre-11/2016 shows that this economy is continuing on the straight line that Obama policies got it on. Contrary to what was claimed in this thread, the economy did not tank while he was president, Obama inherited the Bush recession and turned it around.

Trump has done nothing to influence the economy since coming in 18 months ago.... which is actually a good thing, because he hasn't screwed up something that was already going well. The jury is still out on what tariffs are going to do to the economy, and if the increase on prices on Chinese goods impacts Walmart, we could be seeing a net loss of jobs.


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Sun 09/16/18 01:55 PM


I believe lack of skilled to fill skilled jobs, and the lack of entry level workers willing to take minimum wage jobs has forced the hands of employers to offer more in the competitive market to get employees. Its the law of supply and demand. The economy has always had boom and bust cycles so to say the former or current POTUS had more or less impact on this probably has very little to do with any of this.


I was watching a program discussing the lack of skilled workers. We need more companies who do apprenticeship programs. My exhusband learned a lot from his boss who went to work teaching at west central after our company closed. My ex got paid for on the job training while others pay to learn the same program. Apprenticeship programs used to be a lot more common. Investing in training is how companies can give back to workers and community. My company has been paying me to train. In the end I will be an asset to the company. Not being able to find skilled workers is why they gave me a shot at the job. Supply and demand :thinking:


Actually, waiting for COMPANIES to re-tool workers is the same as some folks waiting for government handouts to improve themselves. Employees need to motivate themselves, take advantage of tuition reimbursement from companies when available, or simply invest in THEMSELVES to take classes to improve themselves,making themselves more marketable/ promotable.

It is the same at all levels: if a plumber refuses to learn how to work with PEX pipe, preferring to stay with sweating copper only, he is going to lose bids to plumbers who have re-educated and re-tooled for the new standards.

I hear on these threads that "the welfare folks are too lazy to go out and get a new job", but folks who are in a job and are too lazy to go to night school are just as much at fault for the position they are in.

Company or government, waiting for a "hand out" is a lame excuse.

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Sun 09/16/18 03:30 PM
Edited by Charles1962150 on Sun 09/16/18 03:36 PM



If Trump is doing such a bad job running the country, why is Obama trying to take credit for it? :thinking: :sweat_smile:


Because lying, blaming everyone else for all the massive screw ups he made and or overlooked and embarrassments when he was President and taking credit for all of the accomplishments of other people is what Obama was good at.

That guy was one big screw up. The best part of him ran down his mommas butt cheeks during conception.


I hear this claim all the time here that Obama was nothing but a liar, but no one can tell me the top 10 lies he told. I even gave the first one for free "You can keep your own doctor". I have yet to hear the other 9 lies that complete his Top 10.

On the other hand, I can easily give you the top 10 lies that our current guy has pushed in the past 18 months, without even working up a sweat.

Obama owns this good economy, a simple look at the charts pre-11/2016 shows that this economy is continuing on the straight line that Obama policies got it on. Contrary to what was claimed in this thread, the economy did not tank while he was president, Obama inherited the Bush recession and turned it around.

Trump has done nothing to influence the economy since coming in 18 months ago.... which is actually a good thing, because he hasn't screwed up something that was already going well. The jury is still out on what tariffs are going to do to the economy, and if the increase on prices on Chinese goods impacts Walmart, we could be seeing a net loss of jobs.




I understand how you feel. Many put statements on these forums with absolutely nothing to back them up. Most times the statements are easy to shoot down. Anybody with a thinking brain knows just by reading whether a statement has a "tinfoil" hat, or wild conspiracy sound to it.

And when they refuse or get angry when someone asks them to back up what they say, it just takes away even more credibility to the statement posted.

NPR is the media arm of the DNC and Democrats.


Not completely true.

"The Pew survey found that the NPR audience tends Democratic (17% Republican, 37% independent, 43% Democratic) and liberal (21% conservative, 39% moderate, 36% liberal). NPR stations generally do not subscribe to the Arbitron rating service and are not included in published ratings and rankings such as Radio & Records.

A good chunk is independent. Another good chunk is moderate. Which means that the station isn't just a voice for the Dems. When you add them together, 76% of the listeners are either moderate or independent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPR


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