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Edited by
creativesoul
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Fri 12/07/07 09:22 AM
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A Native American myth recounts that the Creator gathered all of creation and said, "I want to hide something from humans until they are ready for it. It is the realization that they can create their own life and their own reality."
The eagle said, "Give it to me; I'll take it to the moon and hide it there." But the Creator said, "No, one day they will go there and will find it." Then the salmon said, "Give it to me; I'll hide it in the bottom of the sea." "No," said the Creator, "they'll get there too." Well, the buffalo came and said, "Give it to me; I'll bury it in the plains." The Creator said, "No, they will get there. They will cut into the skin of the earth, and they will find it even there." But then Grand Mother mole came, the one that has no physical eyes to see on the outside but has spiritual eyes and the capacity to see on the inside, and she said, "Put it inside them; they'll never find it there." And the Creator said, "It is done." <<<<<<< This so resonates with me, I hope to share that. >>>>>>> |
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...a beautifully familiar story ...
I love that ... and it resonates with me too! Thank you for sharing it!   |
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Artsy
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Interesting.
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Bingo!!!
Bingo!!! Bingo!!! We have a MAJOR BINGO in room '... a curiously familiar story...' !!! Got to listen to this straightforward, 'grounded', sooooo obvious WISDOM of the real people of this 'earthly' human dimension!!! Native and eastern wisdoms, or how to come from 'home', as opposed to western utopia of always trying to attain some elusive place 'outside of home'. If there is a heaven, god, hell, good, bad, love, evil, etc., it is all, and only in each one of us, one at a time. That is the place, 'ONE', where we're all 'HOME'!!! GREAT MYTH 'creative'!!! From my vantage point, much closer to 'HOME' than some other myths. |
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Creativesoul,
That is beautiful. It reminds me of a saying. Those without the law are a law unto themselves. 
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I heard the myth this way
There was a papa mole, a mamma mole, and a baby mole. They lived in a hole out in the country near a farmhouse. One morning, Papa mole poked his head out of the hole and said, "Mmmm, I smell sausage!" Mamma mole poked her head outside the hole and said, "Mmmm, I smell pancakes!" Baby mole tried to stick his head outside but couldn't because of the two bigger moles. Baby mole said, "The only thing I smell is molasses." |
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 @ rabbit ...moasses... wouldee: In the truest of senses... I believe one 'conforms' unto his/her own idealogical exposure, whether out of need or out of convenience, or both, which may or may not include or agree with another's definition of 'law'. The separate and individual uniqueness of this world's fingerprint upon one shapes his/her world according to the 'agreements' made within each individual. We are all... each... a law unto ourselves... incorruptably so, without one's own recognition of themself. My 'God' owns more than one taxi-cab... |
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A Native American myth recounts that the Creator gathered all of creation and said, "I want to hide something from humans until they are ready for it. It is the realization that they can create their own life and their own reality." The eagle said, "Give it to me; I'll take it to the moon and hide it there." But the Creator said, "No, one day they will go there and will find it." Then the salmon said, "Give it to me; I'll hide it in the bottom of the sea." "No," said the Creator, "they'll get there too." Well, the buffalo came and said, "Give it to me; I'll bury it in the plains." The Creator said, "No, they will get there. They will cut into the skin of the earth, and they will find it even there." But then Grand Mother mole came, the one that has no physical eyes to see on the outside but has spiritual eyes and the capacity to see on the inside, and she said, "Put it inside them; they'll never find it there." And the Creator said, "It is done." <<<<<<< This so resonates with me, I hope to share that. >>>>>>> This is what makes us all one, there is no separation, we all have it within ourselves, and at the same time it's all around us. |
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@ rabbit ...moasses... wouldee: In the truest of senses... I believe one 'conforms' unto his/her own idealogical exposure, whether out of need or out of convenience, or both, which may or may not include or agree with another's definition of 'law'. The separate and individual uniqueness of this world's fingerprint upon one shapes his/her world according to the 'agreements' made within each individual. We are all... each... a law unto ourselves... incorruptably so, without one's own recognition of themself. My 'God' owns more than one taxi-cab... that is a law too  It is amazing how we can assimilate the wisdom of every person or culture through listening jumping with glee beyond the fences and borders having the greater appreciation of all diversity and love being at home. when I learned that exercising good judgement freed myself of the mirage of judging others; contempt and pride cried in defeat. Renoir is not Dali Matisse is not Chagall picasso is Einstein Stephen King is George Carlin A Ford is a Chevy But a Ferrari is red. Is , is not,and isn't isn't . I've hailed many a cab in my travels and I recognized thaat when the cabbie became too familiar I hadn't travelled far enough. I then settled in where I found a home with no fences. I found a plain to roam with an open sky filled in expanse that tethered freedom to vastness. I see such things from time to time and know it's a rose too. |
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'Inside Christianity'
You know, the absolute purest beauty of what 'Christianity' brought to my life was the beginning of my own self-recognition... the salvation from the fingerprint of the world... although not completely understood as such at the time... Until one quits searching for 'inner peace' by looking outward, and at the source of the fingerprint, through the fingerprint, it will always be incorruptable... if there is such a thing as enemy my friend, one is his own worst, when one does not recognize themself, and that which steals one from the 'Spirit' that lives within each of us... |
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'Inside Christianity' You know, the absolute purest beauty of what 'Christianity' brought to my life was the beginning of my own self-recognition... the salvation from the fingerprint of the world... although not completely understood as such at the time... Until one quits searching for 'inner peace' by looking outward, and at the source of the fingerprint, through the fingerprint, it will always be incorruptable... if there is such a thing as enemy my friend, one is his own worst, when one does not recognize themself, and that which steals one from the 'Spirit' that lives within each of us... A GEM !!! :) |
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Edited by
BillingsDreamer
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Sat 12/08/07 01:04 PM
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This story and the following posts are exactly why true Christianity must take the exact opposite view.
The God of the bible said that we don't have the moral compass inside us to direct us how we should live. We are basically selfish and will act in our best interests. This is what happened in the garden of Eden. The devil told Even she had the capability inside her to decide what was right and wrong. It is heady. It sounds good to humans. It pumps us up, and feeds our human ego. But we don't have the ability to do it. It is not in us. That is the great lie. The evidence? Man chose to be the one who determined what was right and wrong. From that time to this, we have had wars, famines, disease and death. True love is self sacrificing, like the love of God. We don't have that in us. The only way to attain it, is to reject our human reasoning that is inside us. We must put our own ways to death, and then be filled with His spirit. Then God's love and His law become written in our minds and hearts. Then, and then only can we understand the importance and value of His law. Then, we can make right decisions. As God says: Jer 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps. Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Mat 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. Mat 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: Pro 16:25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. Pro 3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Pro 3:7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. Art |
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In reply to art No matter what my children do for the rest of there lifes good or bad I would not want them to spend eternity in a burning hell. I guess that makes me more loving then your God. I can only assume you didn't have parents if you think that kind of love is out of the ordinary |
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This story and the following posts are exactly why true Christianity must take the exact opposite view. The God of the bible said that we don't have the moral compass inside us to direct us how we should live. We are basically selfish and will act in our best interests. This is what happened in the garden of Eden. The devil told Even she had the capability inside her to decide what was right and wrong. It is heady. It sounds good to humans. It pumps us up, and feeds our human ego. But we don't have the ability to do it. It is not in us. That is the great lie. The evidence? Man chose to be the one who determined what was right and wrong. From that time to this, we have had wars, famines, disease and death. True love is self sacrificing, like the love of God. We don't have that in us. The only way to attain it, is to reject our human reasoning that is inside us. We must put our own ways to death, and then be filled with His spirit. Then God's love and His law become written in our minds and hearts. Then, and then only can we understand the importance and value of His law. Then, we can make right decisions. As God says: Jer 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps. Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Mat 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. Mat 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: Pro 16:25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. Pro 3:6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Pro 3:7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. Art You know, I'm not a Christian. I chose to be not one because of this way of thinking. We all have it within us, that is our free will to choose in the first place. |
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One displays that which lives in one...
No matter the source... Whether one knows... Whether one likes... Whether one dislikes... One will display... We are all born perfect... then life begins... |
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Yes.
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Edited by
wouldee
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Sat 12/08/07 02:45 PM
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and the rest is history......
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In reply to art No matter what my children do for the rest of there lifes good or bad I would not want them to spend eternity in a burning hell. I guess that makes me more loving then your God. I can only assume you didn't have parents if you think that kind of love is out of the ordinary My friend, you don't know my God, and so you speak with out knowledge. The God of the Bible states that the wages of sin is death. It is not immortality in eternal suffering. That dear friend is a fable created by Dante in his Greek play called the inferno. It has been pounded into the brains of millions, and even you believe that is what the Bible says. Sad, Art |
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