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Topic: Hooray for the SCOTUS
Bart's photo
Fri 06/24/22 05:51 AM
The Supreme Court rejected N.Y. and five other states from enacting a law that could prevent law abiding citizens their right to conceal and carry a firearm for their protection. This law would have prevented any one from carrying a firearm unless you could prove your life was in danger or you were being threatened. The number of people applying for c&c permits have increased significantly in the past year thanks to the democrats and their persistent bashing of cops while hoisting up the thugs and criminals as victims . The democrats have a destination that they are trying to lead us to where they control us and our way of life. One way to get their is by making us defenseless by taking our guns and defunding the police. SCOTUS just made that a little harder for that to happen.

Rock's photo
Fri 06/24/22 12:56 PM
Yay.

motowndowntown's photo
Fri 06/24/22 08:19 PM
Yup, just what we need in this country, more idiots running around with pistols on their hips and no idea how or when to use them.

Bart's photo
Sat 06/25/22 04:30 AM

Yup, just what we need in this country, more idiots running around with pistols on their hips and no idea how or when to use them.

Don’t assume everyone is as inept with a firearm as you probably are. Be glad about this over ruling, cause the streets may be safer knowing the thugs aren’t the only ones carrying a weapon.

dust4fun's photo
Sat 06/25/22 06:18 AM
So the SCOTUS takes away the states rights to make gun laws and yet it turns over the right for states to make abortion laws? It is as bad as all these states that have turned their heads to the federal drug laws and legalized marijuana and in some cases more. So is it up to the Federal government to make all the laws? Or is it up to the state government to make all the laws? Or is it something that we can pick and choose for whatever works for us?
I would agree that it is good that some people can carry a weapon, but for MOST people this is just a dumb idea. If you want to carry there are some things to think about. Are u willing to get shot or die? Are you willing to go to prison the rest of your life? Are you prepared to be sued for everything you own? That split second decision can affect the lives of many people and you need to be willing to live with whatever the outcome. Many of the thugs that don't have a record are also going out and getting a conceal and carry, so when the cops stop them they can not take the guns away. In a place like New York city the cops have very strict regulations on when they can use their guns so as others are not caught in the cross fire, yet the criminals just shoot wherever and whoever because they don't care. A citizen with a gun also has to be well aware of their surroundings and it's pretty good odds of getting shot by a cop if you are running after someone waving a gun around.

Bart's photo
Sat 06/25/22 06:50 AM
Edited by Bart on Sat 06/25/22 06:53 AM

So the SCOTUS takes away the states rights to make gun laws and yet it turns over the right for states to make abortion laws? It is as bad as all these states that have turned their heads to the federal drug laws and legalized marijuana and in some cases more. So is it up to the Federal government to make all the laws? Or is it up to the state government to make all the laws? Or is it something that we can pick and choose for whatever works for us?
I would agree that it is good that some people can carry a weapon, but for MOST people this is just a dumb idea. If you want to carry there are some things to think about. Are u willing to get shot or die? Are you willing to go to prison the rest of your life? Are you prepared to be sued for everything you own? That split second decision can affect the lives of many people and you need to be willing to live with whatever the outcome. Many of the thugs that don't have a record are also going out and getting a conceal and carry, so when the cops stop them they can not take the guns away. In a place like New York city the cops have very strict regulations on when they can use their guns so as others are not caught in the cross fire, yet the criminals just shoot wherever and whoever because they don't care. A citizen with a gun also has to be well aware of their surroundings and it's pretty good odds of getting shot by a cop if you are running after someone waving a gun around.

Abortion wasn’t a constitutional right when it was written , the right to bear arms was.( 2nd amendment). The court just returned the decision back to the states…If someone threatens my life I’m not thinking about will I get in trouble for protecting myself? No, I’m defending my self first to live, then I’ll defend my self in a court of law if needed. Anyone without a record has the right to conceal and carry. Most people that go thru the process of a c&c course will be responsible gun owners and never present a threat to the public.

no photo
Sat 06/25/22 07:01 AM
Glad in in the UK. No one here has the right to own a firearm, other than some farmers with shotgun licences.
Anyone with a concealed firearm is a criminal, and likely to be shot by police (once they've called in a specialist firearms squad).

No accidental shootings, very rarely a mass shooting, and the streets are safer.

Bart's photo
Sat 06/25/22 07:30 AM

Glad in in the UK. No one here has the right to own a firearm, other than some farmers with shotgun licences.
Anyone with a concealed firearm is a criminal, and likely to be shot by police (once they've called in a specialist firearms squad).

No accidental shootings, very rarely a mass shooting, and the streets are safer.

If your glad to be at the mercy of any future government control that effects your life negatively while you are ineffective at any push back than more power to you, or more correctly, , less power to you.

motowndowntown's photo
Sat 06/25/22 07:46 AM


Yup, just what we need in this country, more idiots running around with pistols on their hips and no idea how or when to use them.

Don’t assume everyone is as inept with a firearm as you probably are. Be glad about this over ruling, cause the streets may be safer knowing the thugs aren’t the only ones carrying a weapon.


I happen to be very adept with all kinds of weapons. Not only can I hit what I aim at with them, I can also strip them down, repair them, and reassemble them blindfolded.

Bart's photo
Sat 06/25/22 08:25 AM



Yup, just what we need in this country, more idiots running around with pistols on their hips and no idea how or when to use them.

Don’t assume everyone is as inept with a firearm as you probably are. Be glad about this over ruling, cause the streets may be safer knowing the thugs aren’t the only ones carrying a weapon.


I happen to be very adept with all kinds of weapons. Not only can I hit what I aim at with them, I can also strip them down, repair them, and reassemble them blindfolded.

Good deal, than you ought to know the guns aren’t the problem it’s the insecure nut jobs that can obtain these guns either lawfully or unlawfully that are the problem.

dust4fun's photo
Sat 06/25/22 09:18 AM
Edited by dust4fun on Sat 06/25/22 09:20 AM





Abortion wasn’t a constitutional right when it was written , the right to bear arms was.( 2nd amendment). The court just returned the decision back to the states…If someone threatens my life I’m not thinking about will I get in trouble for protecting myself? No, I’m defending my self first to live, then I’ll defend my self in a court of law if needed. Anyone without a record has the right to conceal and carry. Most people that go thru the process of a c&c course will be responsible gun owners and never present a threat to the public.



I like that everybody goes back to the constitution that was written 250 years ago. Maybe we should go back to throwing out sewage in the streets and letting it run into the river? That is as bad as people whom follow the bible that has been written (by people) over the last 2000 years. Things change over time, if you want to take your black powder and load a ball into your musket then go right ahead. If somebody wants to carry a semi-auto pistol around with them everywhere they go I want to make sure they are not a nut, unfortunately that is easier to say then do. Besides the accidental discharge, how many guns are used in road rage or domestic abuse cases. It's not that I am anti-gun, it's that too many bad people have spoiled it for everyone else. New York and other states can still make it very difficult for people to conceal and carry. Start with 100 hours of firearm training and a $1000 application fee, then charge $1000 a year for renewing the permit every year and gun refresher classes every few years. That would make it so only the people whom are really serious about this would actually do it. If somebody wants to kill one person or a large number of people there are many ways they can go about doing it. They can go buy a gun or two and some bullets, or they can try figuring out how to make some bombs, or the can buy some gas and set things on fire, or they can take their pickup and drive thru a crowd. The list is endless. One problem with legal guns is often they are stolen or sold and become illegal guns. They just busted a couple in my state that was buying guns "legally" and reselling them to people in the ghetto. Inner city gun crimes have skyrocketed over the last couple years, just because somebody is "legally" carrying a gun doesn't mean they won't use it "illegally".

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Sat 06/25/22 09:32 AM










I like that everybody goes back to the constitution that was written 250 years ago. Maybe we should go back to throwing out sewage in the streets and letting it run into the river? That is as bad as people whom follow the bible that has been written (by people) over the last 2000 years. Things change over time, if you want to take your black powder and load a ball into your musket then go right ahead. If somebody wants to carry a semi-auto pistol around with them everywhere they go I want to make sure they are not a nut, unfortunately that is easier to say then do. Besides the accidental discharge, how many guns are used in road rage or domestic abuse cases. It's not that I am anti-gun, it's that too many bad people have spoiled it for everyone else. New York and other states can still make it very difficult for people to conceal and carry. Start with 100 hours of firearm training and a $1000 application fee, then charge $1000 a year for renewing the permit every year and gun refresher classes every few years. That would make it so only the people whom are really serious about this would actually do it. If somebody wants to kill one person or a large number of people there are many ways they can go about doing it. They can go buy a gun or two and some bullets, or they can try figuring out how to make some bombs, or the can buy some gas and set things on fire, or they can take their pickup and drive thru a crowd. The list is endless. One problem with legal guns is often they are stolen or sold and become illegal guns. They just busted a couple in my state that was buying guns "legally" and reselling them to people in the ghetto. Inner city gun crimes have skyrocketed over the last couple years, just because somebody is "legally" carrying a gun doesn't mean they won't use it "illegally".


yup, gotta agree with you on that

Bart's photo
Sat 06/25/22 12:56 PM






Abortion wasn’t a constitutional right when it was written , the right to bear arms was.( 2nd amendment). The court just returned the decision back to the states…If someone threatens my life I’m not thinking about will I get in trouble for protecting myself? No, I’m defending my self first to live, then I’ll defend my self in a court of law if needed. Anyone without a record has the right to conceal and carry. Most people that go thru the process of a c&c course will be responsible gun owners and never present a threat to the public.



I like that everybody goes back to the constitution that was written 250 years ago. Maybe we should go back to throwing out sewage in the streets and letting it run into the river? That is as bad as people whom follow the bible that has been written (by people) over the last 2000 years. Things change over time, if you want to take your black powder and load a ball into your musket then go right ahead. If somebody wants to carry a semi-auto pistol around with them everywhere they go I want to make sure they are not a nut, unfortunately that is easier to say then do. Besides the accidental discharge, how many guns are used in road rage or domestic abuse cases. It's not that I am anti-gun, it's that too many bad people have spoiled it for everyone else. New York and other states can still make it very difficult for people to conceal and carry. Start with 100 hours of firearm training and a $1000 application fee, then charge $1000 a year for renewing the permit every year and gun refresher classes every few years. That would make it so only the people whom are really serious about this would actually do it. If somebody wants to kill one person or a large number of people there are many ways they can go about doing it. They can go buy a gun or two and some bullets, or they can try figuring out how to make some bombs, or the can buy some gas and set things on fire, or they can take their pickup and drive thru a crowd. The list is endless. One problem with legal guns is often they are stolen or sold and become illegal guns. They just busted a couple in my state that was buying guns "legally" and reselling them to people in the ghetto. Inner city gun crimes have skyrocketed over the last couple years, just because somebody is "legally" carrying a gun doesn't mean they won't use it "illegally".

The 100 hrs. and $1000 fee and all the other deterrents you mention are infringements on our 2nd amendment rights. Because someone may steal your gun, you say we shouldn’t allow some one to be able to protect theirselves unless they are at home. Really?. What does road rage or domestic abuse or accidental discharge have to do with legally obtaining a permit to carry and conceal. I’m not sure how it is up north but where I’m from I can carry a firearm anywhere I want as long as the weapon is visible from 3 sides and the business does not post a no weapon sign but not in a government building. And I do not have to have a permit or gun registration. You sound like you think the only reason a person wants a c&c permit is to do something illegal.

dust4fun's photo
Sat 06/25/22 05:58 PM
Most people down south think it's the right to bare arms, that's why they run around in tank tops. The right to keep and bear arms, it does not say firearms or guns. Arms can be any weapon. So now I have the right to carry a sword, a mace, a bomb, a bow, a knife, a taser,or anything else I want? So now anybody and everybody should be allowed to conceal and carry as well as open carry? I will say the same as I say about coronavirus. If you are really that afraid of what might happen when you go out then STAY AT HOME! Do I need to list all the little kids that have shot somebody with their parents unsecured guns? Do I need to list all the people with a permit to carry that have been shot? Do I need to list how many road rage cases have had shots fired? Do I need to list all the stalkers, and domestics? Look at those rednecks in Georgia that shoot Ahmad Aubrey , it was Aubrey's fault he got shot and died, but they didn't need to be running around the streets with guns and now they are spending the rest of their life in prison. What kind of situation does somebody think they are going to use this gun? Are they going to do an old fashion duel? If you got somebody down to the ground with your gun on them you don't think somebody else will shoot you? What if somebody grabs your gun and used it against you? Trust me I have seen the caliber of the population running around these days and they are already dangerous enough without having a gun strapped to them.

Bart's photo
Sun 06/26/22 05:53 AM

Most people down south think it's the right to bare arms, that's why they run around in tank tops. The right to keep and bear arms, it does not say firearms or guns. Arms can be any weapon. So now I have the right to carry a sword, a mace, a bomb, a bow, a knife, a taser,or anything else I want? So now anybody and everybody should be allowed to conceal and carry as well as open carry? I will say the same as I say about coronavirus. If you are really that afraid of what might happen when you go out then STAY AT HOME! Do I need to list all the little kids that have shot somebody with their parents unsecured guns? Do I need to list all the people with a permit to carry that have been shot? Do I need to list how many road rage cases have had shots fired? Do I need to list all the stalkers, and domestics? Look at those rednecks in Georgia that shoot Ahmad Aubrey , it was Aubrey's fault he got shot and died, but they didn't need to be running around the streets with guns and now they are spending the rest of their life in prison. What kind of situation does somebody think they are going to use this gun? Are they going to do an old fashion duel? If you got somebody down to the ground with your gun on them you don't think somebody else will shoot you? What if somebody grabs your gun and used it against you? Trust me I have seen the caliber of the population running around these days and they are already dangerous enough without having a gun strapped to them.

Sounds like your the one that needs to stay in your safe space . What if you go out to get your mail and a meteorite falls on you.??? Most folks here in the south are self sufficient, ( a country boy will survive) we can provide without the government handouts and services, even in our tank tops. do not ever handle a gun dust because it sounds like you would be part of your stats. of people shooting theirselves in their *** or foot. So keep your lists as a daily reminder of how dangerous your world is. I, on the other hand will live my life to the fullest and deal with problems as they happen.

dust4fun's photo
Sun 06/26/22 09:00 AM
No Bart, I am not anti-gun, i used to hunt, went through gun safety as a kid, been on a trap league, and shoot target practice, I do own guns. But I do not see the need for everybody to carry a gun everywhere they go. When was the last time you had a gun pulled on you? When was the last time you got shot? It is a risk and reward system, I do not see the risk being high enough that I need to carry a gun at all times, however if everybody else starts to carry guns around the risk goes up, too many people have short tempers and the ease of access to a gun will be a power trip they can not resist. Maybe we should all start wearing bullet proof vests everywhere too if it is such a danger? May be we should all start wearing PFDs (personal floatation devices) in case we fall into the water and drown? This just gives thugs an easier way to run around with their guns. The liberal prosecutors in big cities have already stopped prosecuting low level gun violations, and they have turned their heads on contact stops such as traffic violations that used to lead to other major offenses or warrant's. So these thugs are still running around on the streets with their guns, or will be out shortly to do so. If you were not so trapped in your box you would see that this ruling favors the liberals that want to keep these dead beats on the streets as much as it affects the conservatives. Same with the anti-abortion, that just means more people on welfare, not that there are not conservatives getting abortions too, they just don't want anybody at church to find out about it, it's all about keeping that image.
I would have had no problem with more people being shot when they stormed the Capital, I also would have liked to have seen more force including guns used during the "social justice", BLM, "civil unrest" or whatever BS term they want for those riots. If somebody is looting or burning a building shoot them. There are those who say "it's just property, it's not worth taking a life over". Well the United States is "just property" and if we are not willing to fight for that property we may as well just hand the keys over to China, Russia, or BLM. I have no problem with defending the country, or myself, I just don't see a reason for many people to run around with loaded guns, that just means we are failing to either put criminals in jail, or get them the help they need.

Bart's photo
Sun 06/26/22 10:00 AM

No Bart, I am not anti-gun, i used to hunt, went through gun safety as a kid, been on a trap league, and shoot target practice, I do own guns. But I do not see the need for everybody to carry a gun everywhere they go. When was the last time you had a gun pulled on you? When was the last time you got shot? It is a risk and reward system, I do not see the risk being high enough that I need to carry a gun at all times, however if everybody else starts to carry guns around the risk goes up, too many people have short tempers and the ease of access to a gun will be a power trip they can not resist. Maybe we should all start wearing bullet proof vests everywhere too if it is such a danger? May be we should all start wearing PFDs (personal floatation devices) in case we fall into the water and drown? This just gives thugs an easier way to run around with their guns. The liberal prosecutors in big cities have already stopped prosecuting low level gun violations, and they have turned their heads on contact stops such as traffic violations that used to lead to other major offenses or warrant's. So these thugs are still running around on the streets with their guns, or will be out shortly to do so. If you were not so trapped in your box you would see that this ruling favors the liberals that want to keep these dead beats on the streets as much as it affects the conservatives. Same with the anti-abortion, that just means more people on welfare, not that there are not conservatives getting abortions too, they just don't want anybody at church to find out about it, it's all about keeping that image.
I would have had no problem with more people being shot when they stormed the Capital, I also would have liked to have seen more force including guns used during the "social justice", BLM, "civil unrest" or whatever BS term they want for those riots. If somebody is looting or burning a building shoot them. There are those who say "it's just property, it's not worth taking a life over". Well the United States is "just property" and if we are not willing to fight for that property we may as well just hand the keys over to China, Russia, or BLM. I have no problem with defending the country, or myself, I just don't see a reason for many people to run around with loaded guns, that just means we are failing to either put criminals in jail, or get them the help they need.

You have said many times that thugs and criminals aren’t going thru the legal route to possess a gun, but now it does matter? Just because you don’t see the need to carry one doesn’t speak for everybody. So you are worried about people being shot over heated arguments but you wanted more unarmed protesters shot and killed because YOU don’t have a problem with it…Not everybody will be carrying a gun but you will never know who is . And believe it or not that is a deterrent, that is why they only beat up or rob the elderly, women or children…. Not wanting my rights taken away is not being trapped in a box.

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Mon 06/27/22 08:48 AM
Concealed carry laws boost gun crime by a third, study finds

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/concealed-carry-laws-boost-gun-crime-by-a-third-study-finds/ar-AAYUdCG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=63e8cb3468904889cde9a5d525698ef5

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“The answer is not to defund the police, the answer is to fund the police with the resources and training they need to protect our communities,” Biden said at the start of a Rose Garden event on Friday afternoon.

http://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-brags-about-funding-the-police_n_627eab8fe4b010453ae564ea

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Last I saw the ONLY guns that would be removed are AR-15s and AR-15 variants and similar weapons. These weapons have no place in the hands of civilians and this has been stated by military personnel. They were designed for one sole purpose .......... inflicting maximum damage on the battlefield.

As far as the Second Amendment goes it should be taken with full Constitutional context. The Second Amendment speaks of a "well-regulated militia". The Second Amendment is NOT the only place to mention this. The Constitution mentions that the militia shall be called by the Federal government with members of the militia provided by the states and officers selected by the States to oversee the militia. The Federal government would regulate, train, arm the militia when called. At the time the Second Amendment was written there was no permanent standing army, it was a citizens militia called upon by the Federal government. To cherry pick portions of the Second Amendment without the full context renders any argument for free access to firearms void. You cannot go out and purchase a .50 machinegun just because you want one to kill varmits / home defense. They are regulated.

Karmafury's photo
Mon 06/27/22 08:48 AM
Concealed carry laws boost gun crime by a third, study finds

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/concealed-carry-laws-boost-gun-crime-by-a-third-study-finds/ar-AAYUdCG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=63e8cb3468904889cde9a5d525698ef5

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“The answer is not to defund the police, the answer is to fund the police with the resources and training they need to protect our communities,” Biden said at the start of a Rose Garden event on Friday afternoon.

http://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-brags-about-funding-the-police_n_627eab8fe4b010453ae564ea

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Last I saw the ONLY guns that would be removed are AR-15s and AR-15 variants and similar weapons. These weapons have no place in the hands of civilians and this has been stated by military personnel. They were designed for one sole purpose .......... inflicting maximum damage on the battlefield.

As far as the Second Amendment goes it should be taken with full Constitutional context. The Second Amendment speaks of a "well-regulated militia". The Second Amendment is NOT the only place to mention this. The Constitution mentions that the militia shall be called by the Federal government with members of the militia provided by the states and officers selected by the States to oversee the militia. The Federal government would regulate, train, arm the militia when called. At the time the Second Amendment was written there was no permanent standing army, it was a citizens militia called upon by the Federal government. To cherry pick portions of the Second Amendment without the full context renders any argument for free access to firearms void. You cannot go out and purchase a .50 machinegun just because you want one to kill varmits / home defense. They are regulated.

Bart's photo
Tue 06/28/22 06:17 AM

Concealed carry laws boost gun crime by a third, study finds

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/concealed-carry-laws-boost-gun-crime-by-a-third-study-finds/ar-AAYUdCG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=63e8cb3468904889cde9a5d525698ef5

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“The answer is not to defund the police, the answer is to fund the police with the resources and training they need to protect our communities,” Biden said at the start of a Rose Garden event on Friday afternoon.

http://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-brags-about-funding-the-police_n_627eab8fe4b010453ae564ea

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Last I saw the ONLY guns that would be removed are AR-15s and AR-15 variants and similar weapons. These weapons have no place in the hands of civilians and this has been stated by military personnel. They were designed for one sole purpose .......... inflicting maximum damage on the battlefield.

As far as the Second Amendment goes it should be taken with full Constitutional context. The Second Amendment speaks of a "well-regulated militia". The Second Amendment is NOT the only place to mention this. The Constitution mentions that the militia shall be called by the Federal government with members of the militia provided by the states and officers selected by the States to oversee the militia. The Federal government would regulate, train, arm the militia when called. At the time the Second Amendment was written there was no permanent standing army, it was a citizens militia called upon by the Federal government. To cherry pick portions of the Second Amendment without the full context renders any argument for free access to firearms void. You cannot go out and purchase a .50 machinegun just because you want one to kill varmits / home defense. They are regulated.

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed … period. Nowhere does it say the second amendment is for a militia only…. SCOTUS is slowly but surely restoring the decency and morality back from the disgusting policies these democrats have used to impower their vision of socialism … funny that joe says fund the police after years of him condemning the cops and now he’s for abortion after years of him being against it.. he sees the writing on the wall ( that the democrats are on their way out) so now he says whatever he thinks his people want to hear..(president my ***).

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