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Topic: War Crimes Are Unofficial Policy - US Soldier
jonlaw Joined Sat 06/23/07 Posts: 218	Sun 01/20/08 08:52 PM
This doesn't surprise me. The act of war is a bloody hell, what would make the innocents that die of any value. War is the art of destruction and dominance. In order to accomplish those objectives, lives will be lost. Collateral damage, there is a reason they have a name for it. " Spoken like a true liberal. " Yes I can,t believe how soon some people forget how we watched in disbelief as captive American soldiers had their heads hacked off for the world including families to see. People want to blame their own country instead of where it belongs in Iraq. They brought this on with years of tyranny and murder and rape and breaking international laws. Day after day I hear that grease ball Lou Dobbs Whinning and sniveling about whats wrong with America I say there is alot right with it. To my knowledge Dobbs hasen,t got off his big fat ass to do anything but complain. " I refuse to watch, that's encouraging the acts. I was horrified but not in disbelief. Where were these soldiers captured? What did you expect to happen when you invade another country? I blame our government for putting them in harm's way. " Just for the record I did not watch those beheadings either. What I would expect is that American prisoners be treated humanily just like they expect and whin when they get mistreated. Thing is their prisors get three hots and a cot and warm clothes not their head hacked off. Another thing is the people that continue this fight are not even from Iraq.Congress voted for the was also and when its not going as well as hope they want to cut and run???

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 01/20/08 08:59 PM
This doesn't surprise me. The act of war is a bloody hell, what would make the innocents that die of any value. War is the art of destruction and dominance. In order to accomplish those objectives, lives will be lost. Collateral damage, there is a reason they have a name for it. " Spoken like a true liberal. " Yes I can,t believe how soon some people forget how we watched in disbelief as captive American soldiers had their heads hacked off for the world including families to see. People want to blame their own country instead of where it belongs in Iraq. They brought this on with years of tyranny and murder and rape and breaking international laws. Day after day I hear that grease ball Lou Dobbs Whinning and sniveling about whats wrong with America I say there is alot right with it. To my knowledge Dobbs hasen,t got off his big fat ass to do anything but complain. " I refuse to watch, that's encouraging the acts. I was horrified but not in disbelief. Where were these soldiers captured? What did you expect to happen when you invade another country? I blame our government for putting them in harm's way. " Just for the record I did not watch those beheadings either. What I would expect is that American prisoners be treated humanily just like they expect and whin when they get mistreated. Thing is their prisors get three hots and a cot and warm clothes not their head hacked off. Another thing is the people that continue this fight are not even from Iraq.Congress voted for the was also and when its not going as well as hope they want to cut and run??? well for the sake of honesty lets point out all the lies that led to the war and yes congress was misled as well as we fellow citizens, Bush himslef claimed saddam had tons of wmds....that being said admiting you made a huge collosal mistake and getting out is not cutting and running

littleredhen Joined Sat 01/12/08 Posts: 6837	Sun 01/20/08 09:08 PM
This doesn't surprise me. The act of war is a bloody hell, what would make the innocents that die of any value. War is the art of destruction and dominance. In order to accomplish those objectives, lives will be lost. Collateral damage, there is a reason they have a name for it. " Spoken like a true liberal. " Yes I can,t believe how soon some people forget how we watched in disbelief as captive American soldiers had their heads hacked off for the world including families to see. People want to blame their own country instead of where it belongs in Iraq. They brought this on with years of tyranny and murder and rape and breaking international laws. Day after day I hear that grease ball Lou Dobbs Whinning and sniveling about whats wrong with America I say there is alot right with it. To my knowledge Dobbs hasen,t got off his big fat ass to do anything but complain. " I refuse to watch, that's encouraging the acts. I was horrified but not in disbelief. Where were these soldiers captured? What did you expect to happen when you invade another country? I blame our government for putting them in harm's way. " Just for the record I did not watch those beheadings either. What I would expect is that American prisoners be treated humanily just like they expect and whin when they get mistreated. Thing is their prisors get three hots and a cot and warm clothes not their head hacked off. Another thing is the people that continue this fight are not even from Iraq.Congress voted for the was also and when its not going as well as hope they want to cut and run??? Know thy enemy. They do not play by our rules. Anyone going over there had better know what to expect. They are terrorists!

littleredhen Joined Sat 01/12/08 Posts: 6837	Sun 01/20/08 09:13 PM
I am sick of being accused on being unsupportive of our troops. I support them by saying they should never be put in harm's way unless it is absolutely nessasary, & then give them the best equipment available to do the job & get them home ASAP. When they get home keep the promises we made & help them recover & get back to a normal life!

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 01/20/08 09:13 PM
I am not sure if terrorist is the right word exactly after all we are in there country......so does that make them....oh freedom fighters?....since they wish to free there country of the yankees and determin the own destiny as a nation? They are certainly not a standing army they seem to me almost a spontanious reaction to our invasion and occupation. I guese it is a bit of a stretch to speculate along those lines but I am trying to see things from there perespective

littleredhen Joined Sat 01/12/08 Posts: 6837	Sun 01/20/08 09:25 PM
Well supposedly we are there to root out terrorists, that is why I used that word. Posting beheadings online is certainly terrorist tactics.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 01/20/08 09:29 PM
Well supposedly we are there to root out terrorists, that is why I used that word. Posting beheadings online is certainly terrorist tactics. I have a hard time keeping up with the reasons we are there myself as they are ever changeing and evolving.first it was to take out saddam and his wmds then when we stayed after that and the natives got restless and starting rebeling we then labled them terrorists so as long as they keep fighting back we have a reasone to stay and occupy........I am afraid we are stuck with this tar baby for a long time to come.

jonlaw Joined Sat 06/23/07 Posts: 218	Sun 01/20/08 09:33 PM
" I am not sure if terrorist is the right word exactly after all we are in there country......so does that make them....oh freedom fighters?....since they wish to free there country of the yankees and determin the own destiny as a nation? They are certainly not a standing army they seem to me almost a spontanious reaction to our invasion and occupation. I guese it is a bit of a stretch to speculate along those lines but I am trying to see things from there perespective " The insurgents are not from Iraq the Irarqis had elections trying to set up their own police force and are getting killed for it. They are terrorists they kill children or anybody who wants change.

jonlaw Joined Sat 06/23/07 Posts: 218	Sun 01/20/08 09:39 PM
This doesn't surprise me. The act of war is a bloody hell, what would make the innocents that die of any value. War is the art of destruction and dominance. In order to accomplish those objectives, lives will be lost. Collateral damage, there is a reason they have a name for it. " Spoken like a true liberal. " Yes I can,t believe how soon some people forget how we watched in disbelief as captive American soldiers had their heads hacked off for the world including families to see. People want to blame their own country instead of where it belongs in Iraq. They brought this on with years of tyranny and murder and rape and breaking international laws. Day after day I hear that grease ball Lou Dobbs Whinning and sniveling about whats wrong with America I say there is alot right with it. To my knowledge Dobbs hasen,t got off his big fat ass to do anything but complain. " I refuse to watch, that's encouraging the acts. I was horrified but not in disbelief. Where were these soldiers captured? What did you expect to happen when you invade another country? I blame our government for putting them in harm's way. " Just for the record I did not watch those beheadings either. What I would expect is that American prisoners be treated humanily just like they expect and whin when they get mistreated. Thing is their prisors get three hots and a cot and warm clothes not their head hacked off. Another thing is the people that continue this fight are not even from Iraq.Congress voted for the was also and when its not going as well as hope they want to cut and run??? "well for the sake of honesty lets point out all the lies that led to the war and yes congress was misled as well as we fellow citizens, Bush himslef claimed saddam had tons of wmds....that being said admiting you made a huge collosal mistake and getting out is not cutting and running " Bush had the same intel as congress did aand give Iraqs history of using weapons of mass desrtuction by gassing his own people(remember Chemical Ali) Then Saddam always sending the atomic commission home made it really look like he was hiding something. Firing on planes in the no fly zone this went on for over 10 years Saddam brought this on himself.

jonlaw Joined Sat 06/23/07 Posts: 218	Sun 01/20/08 09:41 PM
" I am sick of being accused on being unsupportive of our troops. I support them by saying they should never be put in harm's way unless it is absolutely nessasary, & then give them the best equipment available to do the job & get them home ASAP. When they get home keep the promises we made & help them recover & get back to a normal life! " I hope you don,t think I am accusing you of being unsupportive I am just debateing this topic.

littleredhen Joined Sat 01/12/08 Posts: 6837	Sun 01/20/08 09:56 PM
" I am sick of being accused on being unsupportive of our troops. I support them by saying they should never be put in harm's way unless it is absolutely nessasary, & then give them the best equipment available to do the job & get them home ASAP. When they get home keep the promises we made & help them recover & get back to a normal life! " I hope you don,t think I am accusing you of being unsupportive I am just debateing this topic. I wasn't directing that at you. Thanks for the flowers. I shopuld stop typing for a while, wrists are starting to hurt.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 01/20/08 09:57 PM
This doesn't surprise me. The act of war is a bloody hell, what would make the innocents that die of any value. War is the art of destruction and dominance. In order to accomplish those objectives, lives will be lost. Collateral damage, there is a reason they have a name for it. " Spoken like a true liberal. " Yes I can,t believe how soon some people forget how we watched in disbelief as captive American soldiers had their heads hacked off for the world including families to see. People want to blame their own country instead of where it belongs in Iraq. They brought this on with years of tyranny and murder and rape and breaking international laws. Day after day I hear that grease ball Lou Dobbs Whinning and sniveling about whats wrong with America I say there is alot right with it. To my knowledge Dobbs hasen,t got off his big fat ass to do anything but complain. " I refuse to watch, that's encouraging the acts. I was horrified but not in disbelief. Where were these soldiers captured? What did you expect to happen when you invade another country? I blame our government for putting them in harm's way. " Just for the record I did not watch those beheadings either. What I would expect is that American prisoners be treated humanily just like they expect and whin when they get mistreated. Thing is their prisors get three hots and a cot and warm clothes not their head hacked off. Another thing is the people that continue this fight are not even from Iraq.Congress voted for the was also and when its not going as well as hope they want to cut and run??? "well for the sake of honesty lets point out all the lies that led to the war and yes congress was misled as well as we fellow citizens, Bush himslef claimed saddam had tons of wmds....that being said admiting you made a huge collosal mistake and getting out is not cutting and running " Bush had the same intel as congress did aand give Iraqs history of using weapons of mass desrtuction by gassing his own people(remember Chemical Ali) Then Saddam always sending the atomic commission home made it really look like he was hiding something. Firing on planes in the no fly zone this went on for over 10 years Saddam brought this on himself. Its well documented that the Intel in regards to wmds in iraq was at the verry least misleading and many of the documents were forgaries. Most of the intel came from a man named Chalabi..........he had a vested interest in the overthrow of saddam and is now the oil minister...go figure Whatever happened to Ahmed Chalabi? (the man whose lies about WMDs took us to war) by KEARNEY \| May 15, 2007 at 11:08 pm \| 105 views \| add comment Upload Be the first to add photos and video to this story Whatever his political future, Mr Chalabi is one of the great survivors of Iraqi politics. "Never ever write him off," Hoshyar Zebari, the Iraqi Foreign Minister, said to me last year. For a start he is still alive despite numerous assassination attempts. Aged 62 he has seen extraordinary reversals of fortune. He comes from a wealthy Shia family that flourished in Baghdad until the overthrow of the monarchy in 1958. Always an opponent of Saddam Hussein, he became a banker in Jordan only to see his bank collapse in controversial circumstances in the late 1980s. In the 1990s he was in Iraqi Kurdistan vainly seeking to use it as a platform to overthrow Saddam. Forced to flee again in 1996 he seemed to have failed, but 10 years later Saddam is in his grave and Mr Chalabi sits in his heavily fortified house in Baghdad. Source: news.independent.co.uk Go to original story

jonlaw Joined Sat 06/23/07 Posts: 218	Sun 01/20/08 10:18 PM
[quote This doesn't surprise me. The act of war is a bloody hell, what would make the innocents that die of any value. War is the art of destruction and dominance. In order to accomplish those objectives, lives will be lost. Collateral damage, there is a reason they have a name for it. " Spoken like a true liberal. " Yes I can,t believe how soon some people forget how we watched in disbelief as captive American soldiers had their heads hacked off for the world including families to see. People want to blame their own country instead of where it belongs in Iraq. They brought this on with years of tyranny and murder and rape and breaking international laws. Day after day I hear that grease ball Lou Dobbs Whinning and sniveling about whats wrong with America I say there is alot right with it. To my knowledge Dobbs hasen,t got off his big fat ass to do anything but complain. " I refuse to watch, that's encouraging the acts. I was horrified but not in disbelief. Where were these soldiers captured? What did you expect to happen when you invade another country? I blame our government for putting them in harm's way. " Just for the record I did not watch those beheadings either. What I would expect is that American prisoners be treated humanily just like they expect and whin when they get mistreated. Thing is their prisors get three hots and a cot and warm clothes not their head hacked off. Another thing is the people that continue this fight are not even from Iraq.Congress voted for the was also and when its not going as well as hope they want to cut and run??? "well for the sake of honesty lets point out all the lies that led to the war and yes congress was misled as well as we fellow citizens, Bush himslef claimed saddam had tons of wmds....that being said admiting you made a huge collosal mistake and getting out is not cutting and running " Bush had the same intel as congress did aand give Iraqs history of using weapons of mass desrtuction by gassing his own people(remember Chemical Ali) Then Saddam always sending the atomic commission home made it really look like he was hiding something. Firing on planes in the no fly zone this went on for over 10 years Saddam brought this on himself. "Its well documented that the Intel in regards to wmds in iraq was at the verry least misleading and many of the documents were forgaries. Most of the intel came from a man named Chalabi..........he had a vested interest in the overthrow of saddam and is now the oil minister...go figure Whatever happened to Ahmed Chalabi? (the man whose lies about WMDs took us to war) by KEARNEY \| May 15, 2007 at 11:08 pm \| 105 views \| add comment Upload Be the first to add photos and video to this story Whatever his political future, Mr Chalabi is one of the great survivors of Iraqi politics. "Never ever write him off," Hoshyar Zebari, the Iraqi Foreign Minister, said to me last year. For a start he is still alive despite numerous assassination attempts. Aged 62 he has seen extraordinary reversals of fortune. He comes from a wealthy Shia family that flourished in Baghdad until the overthrow of the monarchy in 1958. Always an opponent of Saddam Hussein, he became a banker in Jordan only to see his bank collapse in controversial circumstances in the late 1980s. In the 1990s he was in Iraqi Kurdistan vainly seeking to use it as a platform to overthrow Saddam. Forced to flee again in 1996 he seemed to have failed, but 10 years later Saddam is in his grave and Mr Chalabi sits in his heavily fortified house in Baghdad. Source: news.independent.co.uk Go to original story " You are better equipped than I am in this paticular post. I am from Canada but still am interested in American politics. I use to be a Canadian soldier so have alot of interests there. Any maybe we can pick this up again tomorrow this has been informative and civil. See ya later eh? just joking with the accent.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 01/20/08 10:28 PM
I used to be an american soldier so I too have an interest. thats what the forums are all about passing along info and ideas. no one is smarter than all of us. have a good night then

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Tue 01/22/08 09:31 AM
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell- And for that I thank all my fellow veterans.

crickstergo Joined Fri 11/02/07 Posts: 1965	Tue 01/22/08 01:29 PM
250,000 soldiers in Iraq and MM wants to take 100 as telling the undeniable truth as to what has happened.