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Topic: Wonder Why We're in a Recession
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Sun 02/03/08 01:14 AM
toastedorangel........ copied/pasted your post below,

"How do you feel about this?

I don't think it's right. Never sign anything without fully understanding it or you'll face consequences."

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You are so right. During my lifetime I purchased and sold two houses. Each time, I paid out the money to have a lawyer oversee what I was doing. I consider my self to be an intelligent woman, and that is why I made sure I had a lawyer look everything over.

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Sun 02/03/08 01:19 AM

for the rich 1% to keep getting richer, and the poor to not use what strength and resources they have left for change, the bilderberg group(The International Bankers/Monopoly men/illuminati) would have to keep us distracted,scared and at times sedated. like that could happen


aaronlyric..... It does appear that the rich are getting richer, and the poor people are getting nowhere. So, I will agree with you on that point.

However, you cannot say that the above is being manipulated by the Bilderberg Group since they keep their meetings secret, and no one has a clue as to what they are doing.

The illuminati is a conspiracy theory, which does not exist. A figment of one's imagination cannot influence the economy.

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Sun 02/03/08 01:41 AM

Hey, Recessions don't just happen,THEY ARE CAUSED, just like 1929 the (not) federal (no) reserve (non) Banking system regulates the value of your money up and down until no body has anything,only them.If we had our rightful money system according to the Constitution , there would never be inflation and deflation. A dollar would be worth the same forever,(there would be no recessions) I know it might seem hard to believe ,but it is true. the federal reserve GANG are the Criminals(the banking system)(it is a totally private money system ,doesn't seem to answer to anyone.)I hear they never allow themselves to be audited.(interesting isn't it?) They always seem to put a flunky like greenspan near our govt to make it look they are our buddies, but don't be fooled by that. they are ruthless crooks, draining you last drop of blood out. And I did notice that some thought the economy was just fine. Now, JUST by chance ,if you were one of those , just maybe you are some kind of parasite govt employees(probably 50 % on govt payroll in some form or other.)(those are non productive type jobs) who vote yourself raises as the rest of us starve. I don't try to hate anyone ,but I want us to be realistic about that because as soon as the host dies ,then the stupid parasite will die too. REMEMBER: More govt--less freedom and LESS Govt--more freedom!!!The private federal reserve system (of 1913)is Probably the greatest CRIME against HUMANKIND in the history of this Planet. ENRON is just SMALL POTATOES compared to these CRIMINALS. By the way ,I heard that the federal reserve act was passed during Christmas Vacation by about 3 men while Congress was out of session. I wonder how they did that? I don't think the federal reserve act was ever passed and is a FRAUD(unConstitutional) I also question if we have ever had a legitimate SENATE in CONGRESS EVER SINCE the 1913 FRAUD??SINCE??? this federal reserve thing needs to be straightened out, this will save our Country!!!


smo..... you are painting too broad a picture. The Federal Reserve doesn't regulate our money up and down until no one has anything, but them. The Federal Reserve is responsible for the interest rates we pay.

The Constitution doesn't regulate our money; it just states that the dollar is to be our monetary system.

A dollar could never be worth the same forever, as you put it, because we are not isolated from the rest of the world. We are in a global economy.

Why are you calling the Federal Reserve ruthless crooks? I go along with the fact that they sometimes make poor judgment calls. Incidentally, Greenspan is no longer there.

Government employees cannot vote raises for themselves. The only ones who can do that are members of Congress.

Why are you calling the 1913 Amendment a fraud? Prior to that senators were appointed. The Amendment to the Constitution made way for senators to be elected.

Host/parasite?

I do go along with your thinking that we would be better off with less government.




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Sun 02/03/08 01:44 AM


When OPEC increases the price of a barrel of oil OF COURSE the oil companies are going to get record profits!

How dense do you have to be to have that go over your head?

Who hires the working class and poor by the way? Poor uneducated people?

Punish them for supplying jobs to the entire working class with higher taxation and what are you going to cause? Lower wages and high unemployment.

And, thus who would the layoffs and lower wages hurt? The wealthy? Nope, the working and poor classes.

Think people, it isn't hard.


Im your number one fan! I just love reading the crap that comes out of you...it never ceases to amaze me!!!!!!
noway noway


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symbelmyne......

I disagree with you. Starsailor is right, because what he posted makes sense. It is Business 101.

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Sun 02/03/08 09:40 AM
Im still his #1 fan, he just cracks me up!!!!
laugh laugh laugh

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Sun 02/03/08 12:14 PM


So Exxon made $40 billion in profit last year with the average price of gas at I don't know for sure but lets say $3.00 per galloon. So if they was to cut the price of gas in half to $1.50 a galloon they would have made a $20 billion profit...So the average gas tank will hold lets say 15 gallloons. So that is $45.00 to fill up and lets say you fill up once a week. So with gas cut in half you would have saved $22.50 a week times 4 weeks means you would have saved $90.00 a month. So you would have saved $1,080.00 a year. You would have saved and the big oil companys would still have made a profit.

That math only works if every penny of that three dollar is pure profit. It would actually look something more like this (these numbers are just made up, but I think it gets the idea across):

$3.00 paid at pump by consumer.
$0.10 was profit for the gas station your bought it at.
$0.50 went to local & state taxes.
$0.50 went to federal taxes.
$0.50 went to distribution costs.
$1.00 covered the operating costs of the "big oil" companies.

That leaves $0.40 in profit (I suspect it's less than that), per gallon of gas pumped. So, using these numbers, paying 20 cents less at the pump would cut profit in half.

You are so right. I was gonna say something about it and you already did. Although I was gonna say by his logic gas could cost 3 cents a gallon and they would still make 400 million dollar profit. Then you could really tell the logic was flawed.

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Sun 02/03/08 04:50 PM
Why in Recession?? #1- federal reserve #2 federal reserve #3 federal reserve #4 etc. federal reserve

Only CURE is get rid of the federal reserve, that is what all the other countries are doing right now, and will do right soon, if they have not already done so.

You watch carefully what I said!!!We need to get back to our Constitutional govt and Constitutional Money system,and put an end to inflation and deflation and recessions.100% redeemable gold and silver backed Money.

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Mon 02/04/08 08:15 PM


for the rich 1% to keep getting richer, and the poor to not use what strength and resources they have left for change, the bilderberg group(The International Bankers/Monopoly men/illuminati) would have to keep us distracted,scared and at times sedated. like that could happen


aaronlyric..... It does appear that the rich are getting richer, and the poor people are getting nowhere. So, I will agree with you on that point.

However, you cannot say that the above is being manipulated by the Bilderberg Group since they keep their meetings secret, and no one has a clue as to what they are doing.

The illuminati is a conspiracy theory, which does not exist. A figment of one's imagination cannot influence the economy.


i am not sayin i think they manipulate because they meet behind closed doors. they do influence the economy because most countries borrow their money from them and it is no longer backed by anything as it used to be backed by gold. so essentially they have an unlimited supply of cash to pay politicians to influence our laws and consequently our lives. "Give me control of a nations currency, and i care not who makes it's laws"

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Mon 02/04/08 08:26 PM




smo..... you are painting too broad a picture. The Federal Reserve doesn't regulate our money up and down until no one has anything, but them. The Federal Reserve is responsible for the interest rates we pay.

The Constitution doesn't regulate our money; it just states that the dollar is to be our monetary system.

A dollar could never be worth the same forever, as you put it, because we are not isolated from the rest of the world. We are in a global economy.

Why are you calling the Federal Reserve ruthless crooks? I go along with the fact that they sometimes make poor judgment calls. Incidentally, Greenspan is no longer there.

Government employees cannot vote raises for themselves. The only ones who can do that are members of Congress.

Why are you calling the 1913 Amendment a fraud? Prior to that senators were appointed. The Amendment to the Constitution made way for senators to be elected.

Host/parasite?

I do go along with your thinking that we would be better off with less government.






it is a very broad picture, pan back, way back. the constitution states taht congress should have the sole authority to print and regulate our currency and it's value..not the federal reserve or international bankers. if at very least they are crooks for being the first to undermine our constitution..and when you realize the power of money and that they have stolen ours, it's a much bigger crime.

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Mon 02/04/08 08:28 PM
stolen our money System that is.

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