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Are their any Eclectic Agnostics out there besides me if so then what makes yours eclectic?
Me, mine is Eclectic mainly cuz, I mix the beliefs and understandings of Reincarnation,acceptence of magick, my higher Powers are the element of Air, Fire, Light, Darkness, and Shadow. Plus I would also be a Polytheistic person as well. I also mix my Agnosticism with a little bit of the Neo-Paganism into it, IE the 5 elemental higher powers, the acceptence of Magick, Love for Nature (as well as the love of Technology), seeing marriage as optional and not manditory, I feel women have just as much say as the guy and this would make me way different than Catholics in this area, and I was a Catholic person when I was younger before I knew of this belief system. I mix both the left and right hand spiritual paths into my agnostic beliefs. I accept gay marriage even though others hate it(I'm straight before anybody gets any ideas). I don't beliebe in war even though I have seen catholics and Christians act pro war at times. I don't condemn people to pain and torment for not being involved in my beliefs. Etc etc you get the point. I think of Agnosticism as being the most custom made belief system ever. You can mix it with whatever and it will be just agnostic as long as you don't pick a side between God and the Devil thing. Which I could care less for either, not to be anti that belief but rather to explain it's not for me. Which alot of Christians and Catholics seem to be unable to handle that for whatever reason that is. |
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Are their any Eclectic Agnostics out there besides me if so then what makes yours eclectic? Me, mine is Eclectic mainly cuz, I mix the beliefs and understandings of Reincarnation,acceptence of magick, my higher Powers are the element of Air, Fire, Light, Darkness, and Shadow. Plus I would also be a Polytheistic person as well. I also mix my Agnosticism with a little bit of the Neo-Paganism into it, IE the 5 elemental higher powers, the acceptence of Magick, Love for Nature (as well as the love of Technology), seeing marriage as optional and not manditory, I feel women have just as much say as the guy and this would make me way different than Catholics in this area, and I was a Catholic person when I was younger before I knew of this belief system. I mix both the left and right hand spiritual paths into my agnostic beliefs. I accept gay marriage even though others hate it(I'm straight before anybody gets any ideas). I don't beliebe in war even though I have seen catholics and Christians act pro war at times. I don't condemn people to pain and torment for not being involved in my beliefs. Etc etc you get the point. I think of Agnosticism as being the most custom made belief system ever. You can mix it with whatever and it will be just agnostic as long as you don't pick a side between God and the Devil thing. Which I could care less for either, not to be anti that belief but rather to explain it's not for me. Which alot of Christians and Catholics seem to be unable to handle that for whatever reason that is. i've not a clue what an eclectic agnostic is but you are in no way shape or form an agnostic. an agnostic thinks that gods, the afterlife and other supernatural phenomena cannot be known by the human mind. it's not a belief system at all. gnostic means about knowledge. agnostic means unknowable. if you even consider such things as reincarnation you are not in the least agnostic. |
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it's not a belief system at all. Hey, we agree on something! Agnosticism and weak atheism are definitely not belief systems. I don't think that even strong atheism is a 'belief system', though to my mind it is a 'belief', singular. |
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it's not a belief system at all. Hey, we agree on something! Agnosticism and weak atheism are definitely not belief systems. I don't think that even strong atheism is a 'belief system', though to my mind it is a 'belief', singular. yes, difficult to call agnosticism a belief system when the very defintion of agnostic suggest that we believe nothing. if nothing is knowable then it follows that nothing is believable |
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it's not a belief system at all. Hey, we agree on something! Agnosticism and weak atheism are definitely not belief systems. I don't think that even strong atheism is a 'belief system', though to my mind it is a 'belief', singular. I think the OP is trying to say that once an agnostic, you can customize your belief system, because you're not tied to a particular religion, nor to the lack of it. Anything goes, the OP says. I don't believe he's right, but for a different reason. A person who is politheist, for instance, is a believer of many gods. Bang, he's not an agnostic any more at all, by definition. |
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Bang!
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man what a shot!!!!
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Agnostic does mean that you know nothing or that you acknowledge that humanity can not possibly know for sure if there is a God or a life after death or what not- however you can choose to believe in various faiths from my understanding, bits and pieces because though you don't follow a particular religion or firmly believe in there being a God, or a heaven or hell etc- you don't dismiss the possibility that a religion could in fact be right- you just know that you know nothing.
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Edited by
Bushidobillyclub
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Wed 11/30/11 09:11 AM
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I take a slightly leaner approach to agnosticism then say JR does.
Gnostic = knowledge of a diety or spiritual knowledge. The "a-" prefix means without, not necessarily cannot know, but "do not" which is at a more fundamental level than cannot, cannot begs the question; why not, which requires a theory, which needs support. "Do not" says nothing about ability, just a label of a state of lack of knowledge. So for me Agnostic means without knowledge of god, or spirituality. Its a position of uncertainty, and/or a lack of acceptance. It is hard to justify that it means cannot, again becuase this requires a theory of why not. Also to really dig into this you must take a moment to define knowledge. Which is an entire field of philosophy, so you can get deep with just understanding what it means to be agnostic. From my understanding the OP would just be someone who is dabbling in beliefs, feeling things out, and if in a position of uncertainty, without belief, then indeed would be agnostic. Knowledge presupposes belief, thus if you hold a concept of a given spiritualism as true, you are NOT agnostic. Without knowledge =\= I kinda believe some things about some religions/spiritual concepts. The word eclectic is just fluff. |
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Edited by
RKISIT
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Fri 12/02/11 06:10 AM
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Didn't know there were so many types of atheist and agnostics?I just thought either you're an atheist or agnostic and thats it.
It's getting kind of scary with all these different labels nonbelievers are getting,it's kind of like all the different religious denominations out there.(baptist,catholic,etc.) |
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Didn't know there were so many types of atheist and agnostics?I just thought either you're an atheist or agnostic and thats it. It's getting kind of scary with all these different labels nonbelievers are getting,it's kind of like all the different religious denominations out there.(baptist,catholic,etc.) There are some important differences, though. The shades of agnosticism and atheism are a result of looking carefully at the questions "what do you know" and "what can you know" and "how do you know". This are not invented belief systems, and they are not the result of political conflicts within a group - they are shades that follow from asking those questions. Also, the ancient greeks and other cultures discussed this. These ideas have been around for thousands of years. If you want to look for a proliferation of labelled atheist belief systems, you could look at humanism, and the (not strictly atheist) unitarianism and buddhism. Those atheist 'groupings' are a better parallel to the 'baptist/catholics/etc' groupings. |
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