And, your point as how this ties to a prison state according to the definition you posted earlier of what a prison state is? Let me guess the drugs or other offenses they were charged and imprisoned for were all a plant by the government to imprison the troublemakers for when they took over and installed a dictatorship?

So, you want the government in control of our health? And, you complain about a corrupt government police state interferring with our lives? But, giving them more control and power and size would be a good idea? Uhhhhh....

Look up a man named Emir Faisal.

No kidding, they have a very good business and have flourished with their rebuilding of broken countries, but they have also flourished in the United States with domestic projects.

I have land in upstate Pennsylvania where HUGE natural gas reserves have been discovered.

The company we are working with started in 1993. Chesapeake Energy Corp. In 1993 they had a stock of 1.3.

So, with them going on our land I knew they were in for serious profit as there is a huge natural gas boom. So I went onto Yahoo to see what a share was going for now.

July 3, 2003 they were at 9.57

July 3, 2008 they were at 66.78


Good companies in the right businesses will make HUGE profits. Just like this company, Haliburton is the same. A smart, good company in the right business.

And, these repressive controls over social, economic and policial life of the people would be?

The transfer of gay people into internment camps?

The imprisonment of 9/11 Truth Movement? The shootings of protestors?

Preventing business analysts from talking about recession (which in economic terms we are not in) on the airwaves?

Preventing MoveOn.org from advertising?

Preventing third party voices from being heard and sometimes shoving them into jail to quet them?

Censoring the internet (despite the articles you post are often solely internet based, harsh criteria of government) with only government mandated material?

But, let me guess, you support socialized healthcare?

So, they are going to steal the Iraqi oil so their stocks have been sliding big time because of it? WHAT? That makes no sense. The stock and speculators and 'conspiracy' would want their stocks to go through the roof in price to make huge profits. But, that is not happening.

No, look at what I said. I understand your points and I understand the concerns. It is brutal there like it was brutal in Somalia. And, we all know how well that one went for us. The issue is it is not a world affair where we can unite with the UN and just go on in. There are foreign roadblocks with China, Iran, and Russia. China gets a huge amount of their oil from Sudan. Iran has new military and diplomatic ties with the Sudanese government. Hezbollah has a base in Sudan as well.

It is a very very complicated issue.

You have posted the same topic more times than I can count. You should have just maintained one and continued to post this regular mantra of tinfoil hat stuff than so many multiples. And yes, I do, but the government has no desire to listen in on them. If so, go for it, you can hear me talk about our grand schemes to take over the world. Uh oh, I let it slip. The government is coming for me.

Do you know that the stock of Exxon has been on a steady decline? The same is the case for Chevron and numerous other big other companies. I have a mutual fund with Exxon in it. And it has been going down big time, thanks to Exxon.

You should see how bad inflation, the economy, and gas prices are in the rest of the world. It's insane.

On MSNBC this morning the business person showed the stuff out of Turkey. I think it is something like 17% inflation and I know a gallon of gas costs $11!!!!!

They were granted immunity for tapping FOREIGN lines coming into the US. That means there is a NON-US citizen on one end of the line. They are listening in on that person.

You are basing the whole police state around tapping of foreign phones and computers? The US government, if you have a clue, has been tapping both for decades now. They have been listening for a very long time now. It is nothing new. And, no one can even prove they have done domestic spying still. They can only prove foreign calls coming in. FOREIGNER calls.

Those are the facts.

To base the whole police state is setup around wiretapping is ludacris.

If I see you in a prison camp in a few months or year I'll give you props for the warning. But, it won't happen. You are a fearmongerer.

So, the entire Iraqi Constitution, the huge decline in violence, the diplomacy of the Iraqi government with Arab and other foreign leaders, the gaining of sole power over more and more provinces as time advances, the rise of the Iraqi currency, and the rise of the Iraqi economy is all a US and CIA plot to trick the entire world?

Please say yes.

Police State? lol, shouldn't you have been carted off to a FEMA prison camp by now then? I noticed it everywhere, not once in the media do they EVER say anything bad about Bush, the administration, or economy anymore. All you hear on the news anymore is good news. Damn this police state.

Seriously, what world do you live in?

Read the last news report. Have you not read and heard about the diplomatic missions and meetings that the Iraqi President and Prime Minister had, alone, with other foreign dignitaries? Iraq is in complete control of over half of their provinces and five more ontop of those are relatively peaceful.

Have you ever been to their government websites? They have Ministry for every government necessity. They are fully operational.

Iraq is asserting their authorities and other ARAB governments are investing and relieving new and outstanding debts. Iraq's currency and its rise over the last two years and the last few months show the rising strength of the government and economy.

The real truth can be found by those actually looking into the issue and researching on their own, unlike those (like you) who will continue to utter the same mantra even when US forces leave and Iraq continues its current path of an economic oil powerhouse and democracy in the Middle East.

s1owhand, you pretty much hijacked my own points and made them your own with a bit of different wording. But, matters not, nothing will get through to them unless it fits to their own locked in mindset.

Good news right there ^

Concerning Africa:

Mr. Bush, said Mr. Geldof, "has done more than any other president so far."

And, if you knew anything about Sudan you would know it is not a black and white issue. You don't want us to go to war with Iran do you? You don't want us to increase tensions and hostility with China and Russia, right? Look into how they are tied into Sudan and how Iran has said any action by western diplomats and such in Africa would be a direct attack on Islam and would bring launch of a holy war.

Do your research. Just saying.

Those crazy Jews. I tell ya.

Yeah, that's why France, Germany, Poland and others have very anti-American leaders all of a sudden. Oooohhh... wait....

What a robot of a response paul. And you call me the robot?