Community > Posts By > dantaylor28
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Cavs
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should be a great game . but boston with no K.G. lebron is a freak !! i gotta say cavs
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What is the chain of command in this instance the individual would be required to work within? I imagine he would be required to report to his immediate superior and file some sort of grievance with that person? I understand being insubordinate is grounds for discharge. What, under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, is this persons avenue for relief? Thanks dantaylor28 for that information. It was helpful. I still have some questions regarding process I suppose. disobeying does not constitute insubordenation . an order is considered unlawfull when it violates civil rights , a moral religious beliefe , violates the rules of engagement , or goes against the constitution , when a soldier finds he has been given an unlawfull order he files a complaint with his commanding officer . there are higher up links in the chain a soldier can come to because of the" open door policey " , as well as being paperwork you can file through the judge advocate general (J.A.G.) . |
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And so it goes...
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dantaylor28
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Fri 03/06/09 01:12 PM
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as a mater of fact LT. william calley was prosecuted and jailed . for following orders and slaughtering a villiage in vietnam in 1968 .dureing the ordered raid on the villiage they slaughterd 504 unarmed villiagers. he served 3 years of a life sentance and was released but after that there was a law institued in the ucmj protecting soldiers from retribution and prosecution for dissobeying a hanous order . 3 soldiers stoop up in 1968 against the raid on the villiage and were honored .
"lawful command of his superior officer," 891.ART.91 (2), the "lawful order of a warrant officer", 892.ART.92 (1) the "lawful general order", 892.ART.92 (2) "lawful order". In each case, military personnel have an obligation and a duty to only obey Lawful orders and indeed have an obligation to disobey Unlawful orders, including orders by the president that do not comply with the UCMJ. The moral and legal obligation is to the U.S. Constitution and not to those who would issue unlawful orders, especially if those orders are in direct violation of the Constitution and the UCMJ. notice it says a soldier has an obligation to disobey an unlawfull order . i hope this answers you question lynann |
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And so it goes...
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dantaylor28
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Fri 03/06/09 12:56 PM
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What's the Uniform Code of Military Justice have to say about this action? I am not familiar with military law and frankly I am to lazy to look it up now but I do know while serving those in the military typically have to work within the chain of command when reporting misconduct or when involved in other issues related to their service obligations. Those in the military also have different right's and obligations than civilians as I am sure most know. Since Obama is the commander-in-chief wouldn't this issue fall under the Uniform Code? Anyone knowledgeable about the Uniform Code of Military Justice that can comment about the appeal through the chain of command? actualy in the service there is a chain of command , and orders must be followed without question . unless said order violates the laws of war or goes against your moral beliefs or violates civil rights or goes against the constitution . there are instances of soldiers disobeying orders and being found not to be in the wrong . there are also instances of soldiers following orders and being punished because they should have refused because the order was unconstitutional or immoral or violated a law or civil right . |
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"what worked when the founding fathers formed this country does not work now . sorry to break it to you". Oh so we should tear up the entire bill of rights because they don't apply today? Sometimes I wonder what the hell you people are thinking. I suppose I really don't want to know. it has nothing to do with tearing up the bill of rights . it has to do with adapting to the changes in the world and the country . things that do not evolve over time go extinct . and nations that try to stay rigid against the winds of change brake and fall . |
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wow I'd like to see Easterling's original birth certificate myself, along with his original social security card and his official medical records and tax statements. When will this b.s. stop??? when people realize it is stupid and pointless. |
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So, what Fanta is saying, is that the Obama administration in no way is trying to ban assault weapons, or push legislation to require registration for firearms.... I do hope you are correct Fanta. I want to believe you, i really do, but at the same time i am trying to keep my eyes open to as many possibilities i can... Wouldn't it be great if everyone in the right wing was just crazy and the lefties were all correct? I would be awsome to think that we can continue the country on a steady course and all have continually better lifes as a result of bigger government. It would be awsome, i could finish school, become a doctor, and live a great, rewarding life... ban on assault weapons and registration of firearms is not a bad thing . the problem with the united states is people think that changeing with the times is a bad thing . it is not . those who learn to adapt survive . plain and simple . what worked when the founding fathers formed this country does not work now . sorry to break it to you . the average citizen does not have to worry about defending his home and ommunity from an attack of a massive enemy force any more . unless your going to claim our own government is going to come after us with force . if so prove it . |
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What do they say about making assumptions? http://www.propublica.org/article/how-citigroup-unraveled-under-geithners-watch A little about pro publica... In the wake of the October 2007 announcement of ProPublica's launch, a business publication expressed concerns about the ability of the organization to maintain an independent and non-partisan editorial stance toward the subjects it investigates.[4] In addition, Slate senior writer Jack Shafer noted that Herb Sandler has given "hundreds of thousands of dollars" to Democratic party candidates over the years, as well as millions to left-leaning or progressive political advocacy organizations such as MoveOn and ACORN. I will patiently await your reply. This should be good. yeah and fox news claims to be unbiased as well and we all know how far to the right they lean . |
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I miss Bush!!
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On Day 40, President Bush sent his $1.96 trillion (that's 11 zeros) budget for 2002 to Congress. It was hundreds of pages long. Overall, the budget increases spending by 4 percent -- about half as big an increase as his predecessor, Bill Clinton, signed. The Bush budget included the biggest spending increase ever for education: 11 percent. But the budget also reduces money for research on energy conservation, eliminates funding for an anti-drug program for public housing, and ends a program protecting coastal lands. On day 50, Bush advisers said they supported reducing carbon dioxide emissions from coal-burning power plants to fight global warming. But eight days later, President Bush reversed this policy, saying "greener" plants would cost power companies too much money. On day 60, the administration reversed a rule reducing the levels of arsenic in drinking water. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/features/jan-june01/100_days.html You think Bush worked for the people? LMAO, He worked for the wealthy and their corporations. Those who need the least help, but benefit most from having politicians on their payrolls. Did any of his policies help the poor, the environment, or the economy? NOT!!!!!!!! The things I posted were done in just his first 100 days as President. From there he had 8 more years to continually wreck havoc on America, and reverse the improvements to Humanity acheived by generations. Anyone who misses Bush must be a glutton for punishment.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() well said |
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How Close the Bush Bullet
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dantaylor28
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Thu 03/05/09 06:19 PM
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people will complain no matter who is in office. those in office will blame someone else. NOTHING HAS CHANGED OR WILL CHANGE because no one can't admit to their faults or make amends for them here , here . no matter what party it is . they all lie . we just chose the better liar |
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How Close the Bush Bullet
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dantaylor28
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Thu 03/05/09 06:11 PM
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i just love getting people fired up . keep it comeing guys .lol . i think it is funny bush realy pulled the republican party down and now the face of the party has been made rush limbaugh . the democrats realy played you guys . you guys gotta be waiting for ashton cutcher to jump up and say you got punked
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bite me both of you ![]() |
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FEMA Camps Outed on Fox
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are we still on this thing?
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How Close the Bush Bullet
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Earlier this decade when some of us warned that George W. Bush was behaving more like an incipient dictator than the leader of a constitutional republic, we were dismissed as alarmists, left-wingers, traitors and a host of less printable epithets. But it is now increasingly clear that President Bush and his top advisers viewed the 9/11 attacks as an opportunity to implement a series of right-wing legal theories that secretly granted Bush unlimited power to act lawlessly and outside the traditional parameters of the U.S. Constitution. These theories held that at a time of war – even one as vaguely defined as the “war on terror” – Bush’s powers as Commander in Chief were “plenary,” or total. And since the conflict against terrorism had no boundaries in time or space, his unfettered powers would exist everywhere and essentially forever. According to his administration's secret legal memos released Monday, Bush could waive all meaningful constitutional rights of citizens, including the First Amendment’s protections on free speech and a free press. John Yoo, a deputy assistant attorney general at the Justice Department's powerful Office of Legal Counsel – which advises a President on the limits of his constitutional powers – declared that Bush could void the First Amendment if he deemed it necessary to fight terrorism. "First Amendment speech and press rights may also be subordinated to the overriding need to wage war successfully," Yoo wrote in an Oct. 23, 2001, memo entitled “Authority for Use of Military Force to Combat Terrorist Activities Within the United States.” Yoo then added ominously, "The current campaign against terrorism may require even broader exercises of federal power domestically." What was particularly stunning about Yoo’s reference to waiving the First Amendment – a pillar of American democracy – was his cavalier attitude. He tossed the paragraph into a memo focused on stripping Americans of their Fourth Amendment “right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.” While saying that Bush could order spying on and military attacks against U.S. domestic targets at his own discretion as Commander in Chief, Yoo added, almost in passing, that the President also could abrogate the rights of free speech and a free press. Wiping Out Public Trials Another Yoo memo, dated June 27, 2002, essentially voided the Sixth Amendment and a federal law guaranteeing Americans the right to public trials. In the memo, Yoo asserted that Bush had the power to declare American citizens “enemy combatants” and detain them indefinitely. “The President’s power to detain enemy combatants, including U.S. citizens, is based on his constitutional authority as Commander in Chief,” Yoo wrote, adding that “Congress may no more regulate the President’s ability to detain enemy combatants than it may regulate his ability to direct troop movements on the battlefield.” Yoo acknowledged that in “war on terror” cases, an “enemy combatant” may have no formal connection to an enemy group, may have no weapon, and may have no discernable plan for carrying out a terrorist attack. In other words, an “enemy combatant” could be anyone that Bush so designated. Under Yoo’s analysis, an alleged “enemy combatant” would have no legal recourse, since Bush’s Commander in Chief powers trumped even habeas corpus requirements that the government must show cause for imprisoning someone. Further, this opinion wasn’t just hypothesizing; it provided the legal basis for indefinitely detaining U.S. citizen Jose Padilla. Though the U.S. Supreme Court ultimately issued a narrow 5-4 decision overturning Bush’s supposed right to deny habeas corpus and punish “enemy combatants” through his own military court system, many of Yoo’s concepts survived in the Military Commissions Act, which was passed by the Republican-controlled Congress in 2006. While the law appears on the surface to target only non-citizens, fine print deep in the legislation makes clear that the Bush administration still was asserting its power to detain U.S. citizens who were viewed as aiding and abetting foreign enemies and to punish those citizens through military commissions that denied normal due-process rights to defendants. “Any person is punishable as a principal under this chapter who commits an offense punishable by this chapter, or aids, abets, counsels, commands, or procures its commission,” the law states, adding that “any person subject to this chapter who, in breach of an allegiance or duty to the United States, knowingly and intentionally aids an enemy of the United States ... shall be punished as a military commission … may direct.” The reference to people acting “in breach of an allegiance or duty to the United States” would not apply to Osama bin Laden or al-Qaeda but would cover American citizens. The Military Commissions Act remains in effect to this day, although President Barack Obama has vowed not to apply it, favoring use of regular civilian or military courts. Loss of First Amendment Though some of us have cited Bush’s determination to override key constitutional protections for years (see, for instance, our book Neck Deep), few critics – including me – thought to include the notion that Bush was interested in suspending the First Amendment. The significance of Yoo’s throwaway paragraph about throwing away the First Amendment is that it suggests that the Bush administration intended as early as October 2001 to act against journalists and citizens who were viewed as undermining Bush’s “war on terror” through public comments or disclosures. As a right-wing legal scholar, Yoo surely shared the Right’s knee-jerk animosity toward past reporting on the Watergate scandal and the Vietnam War’s Pentagon Papers, as well as contempt for Americans who demonstrated against the Vietnam War. But his First Amendment reference also may have reflected the thinking of senior Bush aides in those early days of the "war on terror" as they collaborated with Yoo in formulating his legal opinions. In his 2006 book War by Other Means, Yoo describes his participation in frequent White House meetings regarding what “other means” should receive a legal stamp of approval. Yoo said the “meetings were usually chaired by Alberto Gonzales,” then White House counsel, and involved Vice President **** Cheney’s legal counsel, David Addington. So, a seemingly incongruous reference to overriding the First Amendment – in a memo centered on overriding the Fourth Amendment – could be explained by the desire of White House officials to have some legal cover for actions aimed at journalists who were exposing secrets or whose reporting might weaken the national resolve behind Bush’s actions. It also suggests that Bush’s critics who exercised their free speech rights in challenging his “war on terror” could have become targets of special government operations justified under Bush’s Commander in Chief powers. In other words, Bush’s assault on America’s constitutional Republic may have been more aggressive than many of us imagined. It was a bullet that came close to the heart of a dream dating back to 1776. _______ About author Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His latest book, Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq, can be ordered at secrecyandprivilege.com. It's also available at Amazon.com, as is his 1999 book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth.' Robert Parry's web site is Consortium News http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/20607 isnt it funny how the same consevatives who ignored the warnings about bush are screaming the same thing about obama now lol . right on . both ways, actually - all the liberals that screamed bloody murder as those republicans (real conservatives didn't follow him so much) ignored the cries are now laughing "haha we won" and ignoring the screams from the republicans. i love the conservative attitude , after bush started screwing up . he's not a true conservative . yalls poster boy and girl mccain and pallin arent much different . ![]() |
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wow, an anti-conservative editorial from a leftist economist. Who'd have thought. Frank has always been critical of conservative economics and this is nothing more than his politicized opinion. how about posting something from your own brain for once instead of regurgitating, once again. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() sounds like someone got offended . are you a conservative by chance my friend ? ![]() |
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How Close the Bush Bullet
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Earlier this decade when some of us warned that George W. Bush was behaving more like an incipient dictator than the leader of a constitutional republic, we were dismissed as alarmists, left-wingers, traitors and a host of less printable epithets. But it is now increasingly clear that President Bush and his top advisers viewed the 9/11 attacks as an opportunity to implement a series of right-wing legal theories that secretly granted Bush unlimited power to act lawlessly and outside the traditional parameters of the U.S. Constitution. These theories held that at a time of war – even one as vaguely defined as the “war on terror” – Bush’s powers as Commander in Chief were “plenary,” or total. And since the conflict against terrorism had no boundaries in time or space, his unfettered powers would exist everywhere and essentially forever. According to his administration's secret legal memos released Monday, Bush could waive all meaningful constitutional rights of citizens, including the First Amendment’s protections on free speech and a free press. John Yoo, a deputy assistant attorney general at the Justice Department's powerful Office of Legal Counsel – which advises a President on the limits of his constitutional powers – declared that Bush could void the First Amendment if he deemed it necessary to fight terrorism. "First Amendment speech and press rights may also be subordinated to the overriding need to wage war successfully," Yoo wrote in an Oct. 23, 2001, memo entitled “Authority for Use of Military Force to Combat Terrorist Activities Within the United States.” Yoo then added ominously, "The current campaign against terrorism may require even broader exercises of federal power domestically." What was particularly stunning about Yoo’s reference to waiving the First Amendment – a pillar of American democracy – was his cavalier attitude. He tossed the paragraph into a memo focused on stripping Americans of their Fourth Amendment “right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.” While saying that Bush could order spying on and military attacks against U.S. domestic targets at his own discretion as Commander in Chief, Yoo added, almost in passing, that the President also could abrogate the rights of free speech and a free press. Wiping Out Public Trials Another Yoo memo, dated June 27, 2002, essentially voided the Sixth Amendment and a federal law guaranteeing Americans the right to public trials. In the memo, Yoo asserted that Bush had the power to declare American citizens “enemy combatants” and detain them indefinitely. “The President’s power to detain enemy combatants, including U.S. citizens, is based on his constitutional authority as Commander in Chief,” Yoo wrote, adding that “Congress may no more regulate the President’s ability to detain enemy combatants than it may regulate his ability to direct troop movements on the battlefield.” Yoo acknowledged that in “war on terror” cases, an “enemy combatant” may have no formal connection to an enemy group, may have no weapon, and may have no discernable plan for carrying out a terrorist attack. In other words, an “enemy combatant” could be anyone that Bush so designated. Under Yoo’s analysis, an alleged “enemy combatant” would have no legal recourse, since Bush’s Commander in Chief powers trumped even habeas corpus requirements that the government must show cause for imprisoning someone. Further, this opinion wasn’t just hypothesizing; it provided the legal basis for indefinitely detaining U.S. citizen Jose Padilla. Though the U.S. Supreme Court ultimately issued a narrow 5-4 decision overturning Bush’s supposed right to deny habeas corpus and punish “enemy combatants” through his own military court system, many of Yoo’s concepts survived in the Military Commissions Act, which was passed by the Republican-controlled Congress in 2006. While the law appears on the surface to target only non-citizens, fine print deep in the legislation makes clear that the Bush administration still was asserting its power to detain U.S. citizens who were viewed as aiding and abetting foreign enemies and to punish those citizens through military commissions that denied normal due-process rights to defendants. “Any person is punishable as a principal under this chapter who commits an offense punishable by this chapter, or aids, abets, counsels, commands, or procures its commission,” the law states, adding that “any person subject to this chapter who, in breach of an allegiance or duty to the United States, knowingly and intentionally aids an enemy of the United States ... shall be punished as a military commission … may direct.” The reference to people acting “in breach of an allegiance or duty to the United States” would not apply to Osama bin Laden or al-Qaeda but would cover American citizens. The Military Commissions Act remains in effect to this day, although President Barack Obama has vowed not to apply it, favoring use of regular civilian or military courts. Loss of First Amendment Though some of us have cited Bush’s determination to override key constitutional protections for years (see, for instance, our book Neck Deep), few critics – including me – thought to include the notion that Bush was interested in suspending the First Amendment. The significance of Yoo’s throwaway paragraph about throwing away the First Amendment is that it suggests that the Bush administration intended as early as October 2001 to act against journalists and citizens who were viewed as undermining Bush’s “war on terror” through public comments or disclosures. As a right-wing legal scholar, Yoo surely shared the Right’s knee-jerk animosity toward past reporting on the Watergate scandal and the Vietnam War’s Pentagon Papers, as well as contempt for Americans who demonstrated against the Vietnam War. But his First Amendment reference also may have reflected the thinking of senior Bush aides in those early days of the "war on terror" as they collaborated with Yoo in formulating his legal opinions. In his 2006 book War by Other Means, Yoo describes his participation in frequent White House meetings regarding what “other means” should receive a legal stamp of approval. Yoo said the “meetings were usually chaired by Alberto Gonzales,” then White House counsel, and involved Vice President **** Cheney’s legal counsel, David Addington. So, a seemingly incongruous reference to overriding the First Amendment – in a memo centered on overriding the Fourth Amendment – could be explained by the desire of White House officials to have some legal cover for actions aimed at journalists who were exposing secrets or whose reporting might weaken the national resolve behind Bush’s actions. It also suggests that Bush’s critics who exercised their free speech rights in challenging his “war on terror” could have become targets of special government operations justified under Bush’s Commander in Chief powers. In other words, Bush’s assault on America’s constitutional Republic may have been more aggressive than many of us imagined. It was a bullet that came close to the heart of a dream dating back to 1776. _______ About author Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His latest book, Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq, can be ordered at secrecyandprivilege.com. It's also available at Amazon.com, as is his 1999 book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth.' Robert Parry's web site is Consortium News http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/20607 isnt it funny how the same consevatives who ignored the warnings about bush are screaming the same thing about obama now lol . right on . |
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"Big Fat Idiot" Limbaugh
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Limbaigh is like a monkey at the zoo tossing its own refuse against the wall, every now and t hen something sticks ( no offence to monkies intended) the monkies will be escapeing the zoo to hunt you down for the comparison to rush lol |
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NOW THAT IS A BRAVE MAN!!!! no one else in here even wants me near a gun ![]() oh, I'd definitely make sure I kept you between me and the gun. safety first smart man. lol |
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