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Topic: Mcains ugly secret
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Sat 04/05/08 10:37 AM
found a verry interesting article about Mcain and when googled it all seems to add up....................John McCain is the man that the North Vietnamese called "Songbird." A misnomer, actually. The correct term is stool pigeon. They called him "Songbird" because he told them everything they wanted to know. He was NEVER tortured and was, in fact, given an apartment in Hanoi loaded with two hookers because of his daddy and his singing ability. This guy is not only a traitor but makes Ensign Parker in McHale's Navy look like an Olympian by comparison. Sound familiar, America?

McCain is the spoiled rotten "Navy brat" son of a four star admiral whose father was an admiral as well. "Spoiled brat" is how he is described by those who knew young Johnny. Johnny's dad came to fame, you may recall, as the man who called the F-4 Phantoms back when they were launched to protect the USS Liberty which was under attack from Israeli jets and torpedo boats. He then helped LBJ and Robert S. Mcnamara cover up that war crime for Tel Aviv.

Johnny grew to be a cocky young hotshot who graduated 894th out of 899 in his class at Annapolis. Who does this remind you of? Mayhaps a certain west Texas prairie monkey? Many say McCain was responsible for all but sinking the air craft carrier USS Forestal in which 167 men died. Otherwise bored pilots of the A4E Skyhawk would often turn on the starter switch and let it run for a bit before igniting the engine. This allowed a pool of gas to form. When the aircraft was thus "wet-started" a huge impressive flame would shoot from the aircraft. "Investigators and survivors took the position that McCain deliberately wet-started to harass the F4 pilot directly behind him." This caused a M34 Zuni rocket attached to the F4 to launch ending in an inferno aboard the ship. Instead of being court martialed the Admiral's son was quietly transferred to another carrier, the USS Oriskany, and a few weeks later parachuted into a Hanoi lake after managing to get himself shot down. http://www.issuesandalibis.org/



bastet126's photo
Sat 04/05/08 10:39 AM
no thanks, i've been taken care of already. laugh

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Sat 04/05/08 10:43 AM
dirty little secrets have a way of popping up dont they?
huh

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Sat 04/05/08 10:44 AM
I Can't Find Anything on Snopes about this so I Question the Validity of This.

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Sat 04/05/08 10:44 AM
Edited by Starsailor2851 on Sat 04/05/08 10:45 AM
Did anyone go to the link he provided? It is a joke website. The article is ridiculous and they didn't even spell the USS Forrestal correctly. Oh, and I've noticed this thing has made its way all over forums across the internet now, I checked through google search.

Looks like the lefties have sent their minions out to do their bidding again.

madisonman's photo
Sat 04/05/08 10:45 AM

dirty little secrets have a way of popping up dont they?
huh
can you imagine this guy as president? he has spent his whole life hideing behind his powerfull family and has no clue how the rest of us live, I would seculate that he has contempt for the lower classes as well

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Sat 04/05/08 10:46 AM
well one can expect these kinds of attacks on candidates.. after all, it is the way politics are played in the US now isnt it?

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Sat 04/05/08 10:47 AM
If this goes anywhere but internet forums and e-mails I would be surprised. Has very weak smear written all over it.

madisonman's photo
Sat 04/05/08 10:50 AM

If this goes anywhere but internet forums and e-mails I would be surprised. Has very weak smear written all over it.
actualy star its all verry easily reshearched and verrifiable.

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Sat 04/05/08 10:50 AM


dirty little secrets have a way of popping up dont they?
huh
can you imagine this guy as president? he has spent his whole life hideing behind his powerfull family and has no clue how the rest of us live, I would seculate that he has contempt for the lower classes as well


Do You Think Hillary or Obama Have a Clue How we Live?

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Sat 04/05/08 10:54 AM



dirty little secrets have a way of popping up dont they?
huh
can you imagine this guy as president? he has spent his whole life hideing behind his powerfull family and has no clue how the rest of us live, I would seculate that he has contempt for the lower classes as well


Do You Think Hillary or Obama Have a Clue How we Live?
I am not thrilled with the choices we have a this point but the system is designed to put forth these types of candadites. expect no real change no matter who wins the fake elections

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Sat 04/05/08 10:55 AM


If this goes anywhere but internet forums and e-mails I would be surprised. Has very weak smear written all over it.
actualy star its all verry easily reshearched and verrifiable.


Yeah, not true. Why has it not made it to the national press, especially since this is not new news? It's 'old news' that isn't really news but just a smear.

The Bohemian Grove at work again covering up their take over the world, and imprison Americans in work camps ideals.

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Sat 04/05/08 10:58 AM



If this goes anywhere but internet forums and e-mails I would be surprised. Has very weak smear written all over it.
actualy star its all verry easily reshearched and verrifiable.


Yeah, not true. Why has it not made it to the national press, especially since this is not new news? It's 'old news' that isn't really news but just a smear.

The Bohemian Grove at work again covering up their take over the world, and imprison Americans in work camps ideals.
why do you allways try to draw things off topic? is it that you cannot logicaly present yourself>?

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Sat 04/05/08 10:59 AM
Edited by AMPdog on Sat 04/05/08 11:02 AM
This is complete and total BS.

Say what you want about McCain as a politician... but he did serve honorably in the military.

He requested combat assignments and received them - and almost lost his life on more than one occasion. The first being during the USS Forrestal fire in 1967. After his jet caught fire and although he was wounded - he attempted to free another pilot trapped in his jet when a bomb exploded and injured him further. 134 people were killed that day.

After recovering, he immediately requested combat assignments again. He was shot down at the end of 1967 over Hanoi.

"McCain fractured both arms and a leg, and then nearly drowned when he parachuted into Truc Bach Lake in Hanoi. After he regained consciousness, a mob attacked him, crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt, and bayoneted him; he was then transported to Hanoi's main Hoa Loa Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hlton".

Although McCain was badly wounded, his captors refused medical care, instead beating and interrogating him to get information. Only when the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a top admiral did they give him medical care and announced his capture."

Almost a year after being taken prisoner, McCain was offered early release by the North Vietnamese. He refused that release unless all other POWs that were taken before him were released as well (hardly the act of a 'spoiled brat').

He was held as a POW for over five and a half years total. Suffering daily beatings and torture that entire time...

No one here can even begin to imagine what that was like for him and his family. And to me, I find it really sad that articles like the one you posted are popping up everywhere in the course of political slander campaigns.

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Sat 04/05/08 11:01 AM
Edited by madisonman on Sat 04/05/08 11:02 AM
This is a great website about Mcain and the USS Forrestal Fire http://judicial-inc.biz/82jjohn_mccain_and_the_uss_forresta.htm

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Sat 04/05/08 11:02 AM




If this goes anywhere but internet forums and e-mails I would be surprised. Has very weak smear written all over it.
actualy star its all verry easily reshearched and verrifiable.


Yeah, not true. Why has it not made it to the national press, especially since this is not new news? It's 'old news' that isn't really news but just a smear.

The Bohemian Grove at work again covering up their take over the world, and imprison Americans in work camps ideals.
why do you allways try to draw things off topic? is it that you cannot logicaly present yourself>?


I can not logically present myself? Are you being funny?

You are the copy and paste king, never have you posted any of your own material where you devoted time, research, and at length material on the matters.

You copy and paste and then add a line or two of your own, that's it. It's weak, though not as weak as the stuff you flood this forum with. Spamming it up.

Maybe if you would actually participate in discussions where you debate at length, post stuff from legitimate sources, not some comedy site or some conspiratorial site, then I would devote any sort of real time to debating with you.

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Sat 04/05/08 11:03 AM
I dont believe a word of it--sounds like a bunch of crap and I could not verify it.

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Sat 04/05/08 11:05 AM

This is a great website about Mcain and the USS Forrestal Fire http://judicial-inc.biz/82jjohn_mccain_and_the_uss_forresta.htm


Do you understand what a "great website" is? That website is less than amateur material, ridiculous. You make your arguments look so much weaker and ridiculous by the sources you use and how you present them.

You are the Copy And Paste Smear Merchant

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Sat 04/05/08 11:08 AM
This is so ridiculous...

Just shows how little the liberal left have to offer as far as answers and ideas to what problems we have and would rather stoop to lying and fear-mongering.

Sheesh.

To those of you democrats out there that are NOT like that, I call on you to call out those that are making ALL of the classic democratic party look bad.

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Sat 04/05/08 11:10 AM

This is so ridiculous...

Just shows how little the liberal left have to offer as far as answers and ideas to what problems we have and would rather stoop to lying and fear-mongering.

Sheesh.

To those of you democrats out there that are NOT like that, I call on you to call out those that are making ALL of the classic democratic party look bad.


I am one of those Democrats (who has voted for more Democrats than Republicans in my lifetime), but I'm an obvious traitor because I am not a liberal, leftist, or socialist for that matter.

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