In a Frankfurt courtroom last week, authorities charged three German citizens with a plot to kill Americans, accusing them of targeting a dance club in Giessen favored by U.S. service members. The authorities said the plot had the potential to kill hundreds of people and that the men were inspired by the December 2002 attack on two discos in Bali, Indonesia, that left more than 200 dead.

For Western intelligence officials, the plot was not a run-of-the-mill conspiracy by disaffected young men wanting to join the jihad. The reason was twofold: Two of the three were ethnic Germans, and all three had been trained at jihadi training camps in Waziristan, the tribal area of Pakistan where al-Qaida and Taliban training camps are located.

More than anything else, it’s what one counterterrorism official calls “the white men of Waziristan” that worries officials — the increasing possibility that the next attacks in Europe or North America will be carried out not by those with Arab or South Asian passports, but by young Caucasian men from Germany, Great Britain, Australia, Canada or even the United States.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26564997/

When the Holy Biblke was put in the hands of the common man, the world began to change for the better in that governemnts could no longer caim to have divine right to leadership and control of people's lives.

But as a consequence, christianity suffers from the stigma of the avarice and greed and advantage and privilege of the ruling class which is not christian at all, but peudo christianity.

In other words, a lie of the devils.

Hence, the spread of Islam worldwide as an answer for the
"white devils" leading the world into secular bondage and economic control by the wealthy of this world which "claim" christianity.

The backlash for the people having Holy bibles in their hand and in their own language is good for the poor but not good for the rich.

The rich will embrace Islam among all citizenry in the hopes that by doing so, the rich can keep rebellion and revolutions quenched before they happen.

But the problem is, that Islam is militant and determined to manifest "jihad" at all costs by any means altogether, and that little backlash will inevitably be detrimental to the wealthy of this world which have tainted christianity to cloak their evil.

The wolf in sheep's clothing....

And the wealthy are contriving to wear Islam in appeasement since their deception as "anti-christs" is no longer feasible.

Any that think that Islam has not been hijacked is delusional as well.

It will only get worse.

Islam will only wake up when Islam cannot escape from being ddrug through the mud by the wealthy ruling class.



The only answer is for all Judaic based religious observers to abandon participation in feeding the wealthy ruling classes en mass and in solidarity.


Can we do that?

Can we attempt to live off the land and default the mirage of the ruling class by abandoning their foundation for existence which is our hard work and the "sweat of our brow" that they live sumptuously without the "sweat of their brow"?



We can do that.

It will hurt.

But the wealthy will die without us all supporting them.

TRhey can't even figure out how to change the battery in their garage door openers and the remotes for their gated communities.

how much less anything else?

We can do this only when we resolve to set the example for all to follow.

Where do we start?

With educating the world at large of the potential of such a paradigm shift as refusing to work for the "system" in concert.

Think about that.

If Americans stop purchasing products advertised through all forms of media, then advertising and marketing dollars becme a waste of capital and consumerism changes or is abandoned.

If Americans live frugally and simply and consume only natural God given foods, unprepeared and untainted with chemical enhancements, health returns and nutrition follows and well being will restore the minds and lives of this people.

When the wealthy realize we won't palter to their pandering any longer, the world will see the change and take notice.

We can start there if the will exists.

We can change everything by being simple and frugal and practical and , dare I say, wholesome.

That is an example to follow.

The wealthy will have to listen to us. They will have no other choice.

So, I put forth a question without a clear answer available for it.

Are we too corrupted in our will and judgement to do this?

I agree with this wouldee. Ive been wlaking around my house checking my tags. and would ya believe that most things was NOT made in america!!
I mean my car is made in america...but the majority of stuff in my house is NOT.

meaning my money is not going back INTO this country.

and my taxes..well the more I work the more I pay.
right into the federal and state and such.
whatever I buy i pay taxes.

the government needs us.
and they know it.
if the majority of hard working americans learned to be more self sufficent and less reliant on material goods...the government would take a step back.

if we lived like the amish......the government would not know what to do.

we are invaluable to the system...
and if majority ruled and didnt need the system...then change would happen.
there is always hope.
for a real change

but iraq and terrorism..idk...

if we are discussing money deficits i think you should listen to this for a sec...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewnhd2ae1jI&feature=related


Most people don't think that our bureaucracy could be the problem... Maybe it is?

Im not real good with numbers.
honestly it confuses the heck outta me

bet ya cutting spending is a big thing right now.

Im trying to think about where America could be in 50 years.

I just dont like that everything in my freaking house is not MADE IN AMERICA!!

mostly the food is.
but clothes, electronics, furniture..

this is a waste.
i go to the mall...half that stuff is not from america. why not?? do we not know how to make clothes?? tv's???
these could be american jobs all around.
its bs

Officials: Al-Qaida operatives killed in Pakistan By ISHTIAQ MAHSUD, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 9 minutes ago



DERA ISMAIL KHAN, Pakistan - Two important al-Qaida operatives were among four foreign militants killed in a CIA missile strike in Pakistan's northwest, officials said Wednesday.

Some Pakistani intelligence officials said one of the men was in charge of the terror network's activities in Pakistan's tribal regions, semiautonomous areas that the U.S. fears have become a haven for al-Qaida and Taliban fighters.

However, another Pakistani official said none of the four appeared to be members of al-Qaida's top leadership and a U.S. official said he believed the militants were mid-level operatives.

The missile strike occurred Monday in the North Waziristan tribal region, destroying a seminary and houses associated with a veteran Taliban commander. The tribal belt is considered a possible hiding place for Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahri.

Several suspected missile strikes in recent days have indicated the U.S. is escalating direct efforts to root out militants along the lengthy, porous Afghan-Pakistan border.

U.S. officials say the elimination of insurgent hideouts in Pakistan is critical to stemming the growing Taliban insurgency in Afghanistan. Pakistan's fledgling government has struggled to contain militancy, despite using peace talks and force.

Three Pakistani intelligence officials identified four foreign militants killed in the Monday strike as Abu Qasim, Abu Musa, Abu Hamza and Abu Haris. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of their jobs' sensitivity.

Abu Haris led al-Qaida efforts in the tribal areas, while Abu Hamza led activities in Peshawar, the main northwest city, according to the intelligence officials, who said they got the details from informants and agents in the field.

Abu Haris' nationality had yet to be confirmed, but Abu Hamza was from Saudi Arabia, the officials said. Abu Hamza was believed to be a bomb-making expert. Abu Qasim was Egyptian, while Abu Musa also was Saudi, but both appeared to be lower-ranking al-Qaida members.

Mohammed Amir Rana of the Pakistan Institute for Peace Studies, which tracks militant groups in the region, said a militant using the name Abu Haris was believed to train Pakistani suicide bombers and coordinate Taliban and al-Qaida activities in the tribal belt.

Another Pakistani intelligence official said there had been no chatter in security circles of a meeting of high-level commanders in North Waziristan before or after the attack.

Two U.S. officials said the strike was carried out by the CIA, but didn't have detailed information on the roles of Abu Haris and Abu Hamza. The American officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss CIA operations.

One said he believed they were mid-level operatives who played an important role in the decentralized militant network.

An army spokesman, Maj. Murad Khan, said Wednesday the military had no information about the identity or nationality of the men killed in what he called "explosions" in North Waziristan.

Two of the Pakistani intelligence officials said Tuesday that the overall death toll from the strike rose to 20 after residents and militants pulled more bodies from the rubble.

Witnesses said two Predator drones were in the sky shortly before multiple explosions hit the seminary and houses in the village of Dande Darba Khel on Monday morning.

The targets were associated with Jalaluddin Haqqani, a veteran of the fight against Soviet troops in Afghanistan in the 1980s who American commanders now count as a dangerous foe. Haqqani is alleged to have close connections to al-Qaida and to have helped funnel foreign fighters into Afghanistan.

Haqqani and his son, Siraj, have been linked to attacks this year including an attempt to kill Afghan President Hamid Karzai and a suicide attack on a hotel in Kabul. Haqqani network operatives also plague U.S. forces in Afghanistan's eastern Khost province with ambushes and roadside bombs.

"The American missile attacks were aimed at targeting Jalaluddin or Siraj, but we know that they were not there," said another senior Pakistani intelligence official.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080910/ap_on_re_as/pakistan_militants

By Craig Whitlock

updated 2:42 a.m. CT, Wed., Sept. 10, 2008
PESHAWAR, Pakistan - Frustrated by repeated dead ends in the search for Osama bin Laden, U.S. and Pakistani officials said they are questioning long-held assumptions about their strategy and are shifting tactics to intensify the use of the unmanned but lethal Predator drone spy plane in the mountains of western Pakistan.

The number of Hellfire missile attacks by Predators in Pakistan has more than tripled, with 11 strikes reported by Pakistani officials this year, compared with three in 2007. The attacks are part of a renewed effort to cripple al-Qaeda's central command that began early last year and has picked up speed as President Bush's term in office winds down, according to U.S. and Pakistani officials involved in the operations.

There has been no confirmed trace of bin Laden since he narrowly escaped from the CIA and the U.S. military after the battle near Tora Bora, Afghanistan, in December 2001, according to U.S., Pakistani and European officials. They said they are now concentrating on a short list of other al-Qaeda leaders who have been sighted more recently, in hopes that their footprints could lead to bin Laden.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26633748/

updated 3:34 a.m. CT, Thurs., Sept. 11, 2008
WASHINGTON - President Bush secretly approved orders in July allowing U.S. special forces to carry out ground assaults inside Pakistan without approval from the Pakistan government, the New York Times reported Thursday.

The disclosure is certain to further anger Pakistan's military, whose Army chief said Wednesday that Pakistan would not allow foreign troops to conduct operations on its soil, after a cross-border incursion last week by U.S. commandos.

The new orders reflect concern about safe havens for al-Qaida and the Taliban inside Pakistan and an American view Pakistan lacks the will and ability to combat militants, the Times said.

"The situation in the tribal areas is not tolerable," said a senior U.S. official who spoke to the newspaper on condition of anonymity. "We have to be more assertive. Orders have been issued."

The newspaper said the orders also reflected a belief some U.S. operations had been compromised once Pakistanis were advised of the details.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26652785/