....that there is an awful lot of venom being spewed around here...but no one seems to have any real ideas on how things can be made better????

It's pretty typical of things here in this country.

" Let's all sit around and b*tch about everything being screwed up, but let's not actually come up with an idea. We'll leave that to the government, since they do such a fabulous job of everything. Then when they screw it up, we can b*tch about that too. "

Do you think it could possibly be because McCain lost? Just an idea.

Sorry Winx. I think there would be just as much venom coming from the Obama side if he had been the one that lost.

Right now, the Obama supporters get to gloat. Had McCain won, his supporters would have been the ones doing the gloating.

What you're saying is correct.

When my child the day after the election, all they heard about was bad things about Obama.

I've seen it on here too.

Sooo...are you saying that you see a different kind of bi*tching?

Thats inaccurate. Most of the venom comes from the right wingers Ive been seeing it for months in these threadsAnd "gloating" isnt "venom".

He's wrong Winx. You've been on here for months too and you know as well as I do where most of the "venom" is coming from.

I haven't seem that much gloating besides the normal celebration of victory. I see people still debating the issues. I see Obama still getting slammed even though he has yet to take office. I haven't seen McCain trashed because he lost. People have showed their respect to him.

Hell, i keep telling everyone exactly how to make things better, but many times it just falls on deaf ears (or eyes). People just want more of the same. (How else do you think Obama got elected? )

I even wrote my congressmen, and told them they should call me before making any decisions from now on. (This was after the bailout).

I see a lot of venomous, pointless threads about verbal gaffes, insults toward others' intelligence, etc.

Same old crap basically.

My main point is that everyone has something to say....but they really aren't saying a damned thing.

If someone doesn't think the Dems have the right idea....that's fine. Come up with a better idea. If they think the Reps don't have the right ideas...that's fine. After 8 years of a Rep. President...who can blame them? Again...come up with a better idea.

8 years ago...we elected a " far right " President. After 8 years of that, the people of this country decided that it was time for something different. Unfortunately, I think they went too far to the left with their choice.

We have gone from one extreme to the other, and I honestly don't think things are going to get any better because of it.

I have nothing against Obama. I personally hope he does a good job.

I just think that we should have gone a little more toward a Centrist type of person to try to pull us out of the mess we are in.

Unfortunately, due to the influence of the media, and the gullibility of all the sheeple that allow the media to tell them what to do, a Centrist candidate will never get the necessary coverage to garner any real support.

I agree with your asessment

We just elected a "centrist".And the "venom" and "crap" in these threads are mostly coming from the right (as anyone that has been here for months could tell you). Its actually calmed down a lot since election day.

Man I am not a sheep, I have put my opinion out here on many things. Love to debate of some of those those anytime. I am not bound to any party.

Wow. I would really hate to see what your idea of someone on the left would be if you consider Obama to be a Centrist....lol

I wasn't pointing out or pointing a finger at anyone in particular here.

However. Did you allow the media to tell you who the right person to vote for was?? My guess would be probably not.

Did you any research on any of the other candidates that were on the ticket?? My guess would be...maybe a little bit.

Yes, I do. Heavy sigh.

Left, right, center!! Who gives a dam. Want to talk issues, throw it out there.

Just because someone has different ideas than you does not mean they arn't a "centrist".

And what the heck is a "centrist" anyway? That's a subjective term.

McCain hasn't been talked about much at all. I've seen Obama bashed about stuff "he could do" and hasn't because he can't yet. I'm still seeing that Obama is a Muslim on here.

Its like in the election.The Republicans kept talking about what COULD happen.While the Democrats are talking about what IS happening.

Yes, Mirror. That about sums it up.