Topic: Philosophical Quotes
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Mon 11/17/08 05:51 PM
If you have any philosophical quotes to share then please do.

Here is mine for today.


If a man who cannot count finds a four-leaf clover, is he lucky? ~Stanislaw J. Lec

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Tue 11/18/08 08:26 PM
There are 10^11 stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.

Richard Feynman

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There is no harm in doubt and skepticism, for it is through these that new discoveries are made.

Richard Feynman

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In general we look for a new law by the following process.

First we guess it. Then we compute the consequences of the guess to see what would be implied if this law that we guessed is right.

Then we compare the result of the computation to nature, with experiment or experience, compare it directly with observation, to see if it works.

If it disagrees with experiment it is wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.

It does not make any difference how beautiful your guess is. It does not make any difference how smart you are, who made the guess, or what his name is – if it disagrees with experiment it is wrong. That is all there is to it.

It is true that one has to check a little to make sure that it is wrong, because whoever did the experiment may have reported incorrectly, or there may have been some feature in the experiment that was not noticed, some dirt or something; or the man who computed the consequences, even though it may have been the one who made the guesses, could have made some mistakes in the analysis. These are obvious remarks, so when I say if it disagrees with experiment it is wrong, I mean after the experiment has been checked, the calculations have been checked, and the thing has been rubbed back and forth a few times to make sure that the consequences are logical consequences from the guess, and that in fact it disagrees with a very carefully checked experiment.

This [analysis] will give you a somewhat wrong impression of science. It suggests that we keep on guessing possibilities and comparing them with experiment, and this is to put experiment into a rather weak position. In fact experimenters have a certain individual character. They like to do experiments even if nobody has guessed yet, and they very often do their experiments in a region in which people know the theorist has not made any guesses.

You can see, of course, that with this method we can attempt to disprove any definite theory. If we have a definite theory, a real guess, from which we can conveniently compute consequences which can be compared with experiment, then in principle we can get rid of any theory. There is always the possibility of proving any definite theory wrong; but notice that we can never prove it right. Suppose that you invent a good guess, calculate the consequences, and discover every time that the consequences you have calculated agree with experiment. The theory is then right? No, it is simply not proved wrong.

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One of the ways of stopping science would be only to do experiments in the region where you know the law. But experimenters search most diligently, and with the greatest effort, in exactly those places where it seems most likely that we can prove our theories wrong.

Another thing I must point out is that you cannot prove a vague theory wrong.

If the guess that you make is poorly expressed and rather vague, and the method that you use for figuring out the consequences is a little vague – you are not sure, and you say, ‘I think everything’s right because it’s all due to so and so, and such and such[,] do this and that more or less, and I can sort of explain how this works’, then you see that this theory is good, because it cannot be proved wrong! Also if the process of computing the consequences is indefinite, then with a little skill any experimental results can be made to look like the expected consequences.

Richard Feynman

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Tue 11/18/08 08:29 PM
"Scientists discover things that have always been there

Engineers create things that have never existed"

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Tue 11/18/08 08:58 PM

"Scientists discover things that have always been there

Engineers create things that have never existed"


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Why Did the Chicken Cross the Road?

To boldly go where no chicken has gone before.

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Tue 11/18/08 08:59 PM
"If we knew what we were doing it wouldn't be called research"

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Tue 11/18/08 09:03 PM
* Hindenberg.
* Space Shuttle Challenger.
* SPANet(tm)
* Hubble space telescope.
* Apollo 13.
* Titanic.
* Ford Pinto.
* Corvair.

The risk/reward calculation for engineers looks something like this:
RISK: Public humiliation and the death of thousands of innocent people.
REWARD: A certificate of appreciation in a handsome plastic frame.

Being practical people, engineers evaluate this balance of risks and rewards and decide that risk is not a good thing. The best way to avoid risk is by advising that any activity is technically impossible for reasons that are far too complicated to explain.

If that approach is not sufficient to halt a project, then the engineer will fall back to a second line of defense: "It's technically possible but it will cost too much."

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Tue 11/18/08 10:19 PM
This is my simple religion. There is no need for temples; no need for complicated philosophy. Our own brain, our own heart is our temple; the philosophy is kindness.

~His Holiness The Dalai Lama

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Mon 12/08/08 08:12 AM
Maybe this world is another worlds hell - A. Huxley.

Ignorance is the first penalty of pride - W. Bertrant

When you assume you make an ass of yourself - me

The predominat emotion of human existance seems to be suffering - Schopenhuar

Fear leads to anger, anger to hate and hate to the darkside- yoda

The pusiut of understanding requires you unlearn evrything you know- descrate'

Sorry if some of these are incorrectly worded.

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Mon 12/08/08 08:13 AM

"If we knew what we were doing it wouldn't be called research"


Haha thats great.