Topic: Virus's collectivly decide cell fate.
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Tue 12/09/08 03:24 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Tue 12/09/08 03:30 PM
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-09/giot-srh091508.php

A new study suggests that bacteria-infecting viruses – called phages – can make collective decisions about whether to kill host cells immediately after infection or enter a latent state to remain within the host cell.


Its a long article or I would copy it all.

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This is very interesting, Virus's have evolved parameters to decide how best to survive in a given environment.

This is but one trigger, the fact that multiple virus's are sharing a host.

Imagine what other triggers may be set, or are already set within certain virus's. . . . perhaps my imagination is a little too good, but I can see bad things being done with this knowledge, both done by evolution, or done by the humanity.

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Tue 12/09/08 07:20 PM
glasses Thats kinda like when body thetans attach themselves to your aura and infect your mind with alien memories.:smile:

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Tue 12/09/08 09:07 PM
I was thinking along the lines of a weaponized virus that could be spread among the entire population of a given area with no notice, and no symptoms, then triggered when desired . . . .




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Tue 12/09/08 09:21 PM
I was thinking of an intelligent virus. Like one that only triggered when encountering a certain set of characteristics. Hitler would have loved one that only attacked people who didn't have blue eyes and blonde hair.

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Tue 12/09/08 09:40 PM
Right! From a programing perspective, if a collective of cells can be used to make decisions then perhaps you are not restricted to small amounts of code (tht could be contained within the cell), you can use the whole colony to code your trigger (I dont know if this is true of this discovery, but I am thinking outside the box.)

Imagine what is possible. Outside the box of a standard virus, would be defensive mechanisms. Normally virus's are bad. What if we could engineer several different virus that could react to various situations and effect your system in a positive way . . . .

It really does seem we are on the edge of great discoveries whether an epic tale of tragedy or the first steps out of infancy for our race who can say yet . . .

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Tue 12/09/08 11:03 PM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Tue 12/09/08 11:05 PM
From a programing perspective, if a collective of cells can be used to make decisions then perhaps you are not restricted to small amounts of code (that could be contained within the cell), you can use the whole colony to code your trigger (I dont know if this is true of this discovery, but I am thinking outside the box.)

OMG! It's the Replicators! (Stargate SG-1 reference :laughing:)

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Wed 12/10/08 10:17 AM
Yea I never watched that show much what was the idea?

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Wed 12/10/08 11:05 AM
Yea I never watched that show much what was the idea?
The basic idea was that nanites (nano-robots) were created and programmed with a prime directive of "replicate".

They had a "collective mind" that connected each of them to all the others through "subspace" (the perenial Sci-Fi extradimensional FTL medium).

And the thing that enabled the story idea to hold together (aside from the "subspace" thing) was that it aligned with a couple of the current scientific views of life and consciousness:

1) The purpose of life is to reproduce

2) "Mind" is composed of inter-neural (or inter-nanite in this case) connections.

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Wed 12/10/08 11:35 AM
Pretty cool stuff!

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Wed 12/10/08 01:26 PM
Pretty cool stuff!
Yeah, they started off in Stargate SG-1 as small blocks (about 1cm) and they eventually were defeated. They were such great "villians" they were revived with the same basic premise but different origins and form (nanites) in Stargte Atlantis.