Dont matter if they got info or not.

Cheney wanted false confessions anyways.

That's what torture is useful for

The memos have been shown and read on television,on the news. Out of a couple thousand only twenty two pages applied to anything **** Cheney said.

General Hayden "Most people who oppose these techniques want to be able to say: I don't want my country doing this - which is a purely honorable position - and they didn't work anyway. That back half of the sentence isn't true. The facts of the case are that the use of these techniques against these terrorists made us safer. It really did work."

Former CIA Director George Tenet "I know that this program has saved lives. I know we've disrupted plots. I know this program alone is worth more than [what] the FBI, the [CIA], and the National Security Agency put together have been able to tell us."

Former National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell has said, "We have people walking around in this country that are alive today because this process happened."

And even Obama's director of national intelligence, Dennis Blair, said in a letter to the intelligence community on April 16, 2009: "High value information came from interrogations in which those methods were used and provided a deeper understanding of the al-Qaeda organization that was attacking this country."

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You can just find too many quotes from very involved people for this argument to be only one sided.

Obama should have never opened this can of worms. It was a policy decision of the Bush administration with too many members of Congress in the know - both democrats and republicans. I wonder if there had been follow up attacks would be having this conversation. I think not.

Now that there were no more attacks, it is easy to condemn these tactics.

CHANGE THE POLICY - MOVE ON

According to the timeline presented in the memos any useful information they got was BEFORE the torture started.The torture was being used to get FALSE confessions of a link between Al quaeda and Saddam. That was the whole point. That's what torture is useful for