Topic: Quakerism
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Thu 05/10/07 01:07 PM
I just found an interesting article about Quakerism while leafing
through Irelands Own.

I checked out a website about it and found that some of the
beliefs stated in previous threads are not too far away from
Quakerism.
They are certainly different, but anyone who wants to check it out

http://emes.quaker.eu.org/documents/files/meeting-the-spirit.html

This is the link I used and I have been impressed

AdventureBegins's photo
Thu 05/10/07 03:53 PM
Very interesting read invisible.

I liked it.

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Fri 05/11/07 12:27 AM
In the book, "Grandfather's Chair" by Nathaniel Hawthorne, VII. The
Quakers And The Indians page 1; "WHEN his little audience next assembled
round the chair, Grandfather gave them a doleful history of the Quaker
persecution, which began in 1656, and raged for about three years in
Massachusetts. He told them how, in the first place, twelve of the
converts of George Fox, the first Quaker in the world, had come over
from England. They seemed to be impelled by an earnest love for the
souls of men, and a pure desire to make known what they considered a
revelation from Heaven. But the rulers looked upon them as plotting the
downfall of all government and religion. They were banished from the
colony. In a little while, however, not only the first twelve had
returned, but a multitude of other Quakers had come to rebuke the rulers
and to preach against the priests and steeple-houses. Grandfather
described the hatred and scorn with which these enthusiasts were
received. They were thrown into dungeons; they were beaten with many
stripes, women as well as men; they were driven forth into the
wilderness, and left to the tender mercies of tender mercies of wild
beasts and Indians. The children were amazed hear that the more the
Quakers were scourged, and imprisoned, and banished, the more did the
sect increase, both by the influx of strangers and by converts from
among the Puritans, But Grandfather told them that God had put something
into the soul of man, which always turned the cruelties of the
persecutor to naught. He went on to relate that, in 1659, two Quakers,
named William Robinson and Marmaduke Stephen-son, were hanged at Boston.
A woman had been sentenced to die with them, but was reprieved on
condition of her leaving the colony. Her name was Mary Dyer. In the year
1660 she returned to Boston, although she knew death awaited her there;
and, if Grandfather had been correctly informed, an incident had then
taken place which connects her with our story. This Mary Dyer had
entered the mint-master's dwelling, clothed in sackcloth and ashes, and
seated herself in our great chair with a sort of dignity and state. Then
she proceeded to deliver what she called a message from Heaven, but in
the midst of it they dragged her to prison."

RainbowTrout's photo
Fri 05/11/07 12:43 AM
A tribute to my ancestor Catherine Chatham.

John Chamberlain is shown to have been born in 1626 in England, to have
married Catherine in Massachusetts. By the birth of their firstborn,
Susannah Chamberlain in 1664; it is reasonable to conclude that they
were married in 1663.) Katherine was a Quakeress, who had been cruelly
persecuted in Boston, see New England Judged, Bishop, p. 420. "Yet a
word or two of Katherine Chatham of whom I have made mention in the
margin of what hath been said before. She came from London through many
trials and hard travel to Boston and appeared clothed with sackcloth as
a sign of the indignation of the Lord coming upon you in the weight and
sense of which she came there and appeared for which instead of coming
to a sense of your condition and what was coming upon you in the burden
of which she came so far and through such hardship. You laid hand upon
her and put her in prison out of which you would give no deliverance
until with the seven and twenty aforesaid you drove her out with a sword
and club into the wilderness and that was the reward you gave her for
her love in coming so amongst you. And such was your rage and cruelty to
her that at Dudham she was not only whipped but the man that was with
her and traveled together though you had little to say to him. After
this she coming to Boston again you imprisoned her for a long season
there to pay a fine you laid upon her thinking to be rid of her that way
in a cold winter and sad extremities and sickness near to death but the
Lord otherwise provided for her and disappointed you for she was took to
wife by John Chamberlain and so became an inhabitant of Boston.

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Fri 05/11/07 10:19 PM
Anyone here attend a Quaker service? I'm curious to visit one. When I
was in high-school we were taught that Quakers were "extremists". Only
afterwards did I learn they were "extremely" pacifist.

Its all about spin.