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Topic: Racial Profiling In Arizona?
msharmony's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:12 PM



well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case




Do you honestly expect me to believe that someone that gets paid in CASH and is here illegaly, pays taxes on it?


Your funnyrofl rofl


I think she was referring to the non income tax type taxes I posted. Taxes we pay on things like utilities, gas, cigarettes, food,tolls, vehicle registration, etc,,,,those taxes go towards the COMMUNITY as well...

no photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:13 PM




The migrants that you speak of came here LEGALY and YES they did help make America what it is today. I'm fine with anybody that comes here LEGALY, adjusts to OUR way of live and doesn't expect me to adjust to their way of life or support them.




Actually there are many many white folks who did not come here "legally" who have been here generations now.

Legality wasn't an issue years ago so white folks ancestors did not have to jump hoops if they didn't come through Ellis Island or whatever. You were here and you were here, that is all.

So white people can climb off their high horse about it.
Their ancestors might be illegally here too.

Unless you are native American you can't claim ownership of this country because you might be born of an illegal crossing into here.

Now lets get to adjusting to others. We should be speaking more than one language here and Spanish is a good start. We are becoming a world community.

I hate the old American stick in the mud or up my butt attitude that we don't need improvement here. We have lots of room for improvement and one of them is learning more languages.

As for supporting others unless you pay income taxes at the end of the year and not get a refund, you don't pay for anyone else, so moot point for most of the people on this site.




~whips out citizen papers~ I would be more than willing to show my LEGAL right to be here. If they want to add it in the bill go for it I will show gleefully to help the problem (if any). I wouldnt care if it would help the HUGE PROBLEM we have in Az.

msharmony's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:14 PM





The migrants that you speak of came here LEGALY and YES they did help make America what it is today. I'm fine with anybody that comes here LEGALY, adjusts to OUR way of live and doesn't expect me to adjust to their way of life or support them.




Actually there are many many white folks who did not come here "legally" who have been here generations now.

Legality wasn't an issue years ago so white folks ancestors did not have to jump hoops if they didn't come through Ellis Island or whatever. You were here and you were here, that is all.

So white people can climb off their high horse about it.
Their ancestors might be illegally here too.

Unless you are native American you can't claim ownership of this country because you might be born of an illegal crossing into here.

Now lets get to adjusting to others. We should be speaking more than one language here and Spanish is a good start. We are becoming a world community.

I hate the old American stick in the mud or up my butt attitude that we don't need improvement here. We have lots of room for improvement and one of them is learning more languages.

As for supporting others unless you pay income taxes at the end of the year and not get a refund, you don't pay for anyone else, so moot point for most of the people on this site.




~whips out citizen papers~ I would be more than willing to show my LEGAL right to be here. If they want to add it in the bill go for it I will show gleefully to help the problem (if any). I wouldnt care if it would help the HUGE PROBLEM we have in Az.


and that is what they need to do, MANDATE everyone show citizenship papers when stopped, and not just those 'suspected' of being an illegal immigrant

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:15 PM



well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case




Do you honestly expect me to believe that someone that gets paid in CASH and is here illegaly, pays taxes on it?


Your funnyrofl rofl


I guess the fact that they buy all the same household products and food and lights and stuff that we do and pay taxes on doesn't count eh?

no photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:16 PM


well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case


NO the don't. I cannot believe you would say something so entirely wrong and ludicris!

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:16 PM
Powers that be grant me patience, please.

msharmony's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:17 PM

Powers that be grant me patience, please.


laugh laugh

no photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:17 PM




well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case




Do you honestly expect me to believe that someone that gets paid in CASH and is here illegaly, pays taxes on it?


Your funnyrofl rofl


I guess the fact that they buy all the same household products and food and lights and stuff that we do and pay taxes on doesn't count eh?


So do criminals. Not a very good point.

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:17 PM



well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case


NO the don't. I cannot believe you would say something so entirely wrong and ludicris!


Of course they do.

They buy the same stuff we do.
They pay lights and gas like we do.
They buy gas and cigs and liguor like we do.

kayak69's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:18 PM




well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case




Do you honestly expect me to believe that someone that gets paid in CASH and is here illegaly, pays taxes on it?


Your funnyrofl rofl


I guess the fact that they buy all the same household products and food and lights and stuff that we do and pay taxes on doesn't count eh?



Not when OUR government GIVES them the money to spend.

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:20 PM





well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case




Do you honestly expect me to believe that someone that gets paid in CASH and is here illegaly, pays taxes on it?


Your funnyrofl rofl


I guess the fact that they buy all the same household products and food and lights and stuff that we do and pay taxes on doesn't count eh?


So do criminals. Not a very good point.


Which criminals, the ones incarcerated? Or the ones on the streets who haven't been convicted of anything yet? Making them suspects not criminals.

no photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:21 PM






The migrants that you speak of came here LEGALY and YES they did help make America what it is today. I'm fine with anybody that comes here LEGALY, adjusts to OUR way of live and doesn't expect me to adjust to their way of life or support them.




Actually there are many many white folks who did not come here "legally" who have been here generations now.

Legality wasn't an issue years ago so white folks ancestors did not have to jump hoops if they didn't come through Ellis Island or whatever. You were here and you were here, that is all.

So white people can climb off their high horse about it.
Their ancestors might be illegally here too.

Unless you are native American you can't claim ownership of this country because you might be born of an illegal crossing into here.

Now lets get to adjusting to others. We should be speaking more than one language here and Spanish is a good start. We are becoming a world community.

I hate the old American stick in the mud or up my butt attitude that we don't need improvement here. We have lots of room for improvement and one of them is learning more languages.

As for supporting others unless you pay income taxes at the end of the year and not get a refund, you don't pay for anyone else, so moot point for most of the people on this site.




~whips out citizen papers~ I would be more than willing to show my LEGAL right to be here. If they want to add it in the bill go for it I will show gleefully to help the problem (if any). I wouldnt care if it would help the HUGE PROBLEM we have in Az.


and that is what they need to do, MANDATE everyone show citizenship papers when stopped, and not just those 'suspected' of being an illegal immigrant


:banana: :banana: YAY! :banana: :banana: Sounds like a plan I would TOTALLY! Next step... How would the american people implement the government to change the bill? I would be first in line!:banana:

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:23 PM





well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case




Do you honestly expect me to believe that someone that gets paid in CASH and is here illegaly, pays taxes on it?


Your funnyrofl rofl


I guess the fact that they buy all the same household products and food and lights and stuff that we do and pay taxes on doesn't count eh?



Not when OUR government GIVES them the money to spend.


Oh man, here we go again.

Illegals cannot get any government money. It is illegal for them to get it.

The federal government doesn't allow illegals to receive any kind of benefits from the government.

Do I have to prove this one again?

I get so tired of the bull **** people spread around amongst themselves without ever verifying the validity of it.

ValentinaSS's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:25 PM
Edited by ValentinaSS on Sat 07/17/10 03:26 PM
Anyone who wants to win elections has to pander to the latinos (among others),,,,just my opinion.

msharmony's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:25 PM







The migrants that you speak of came here LEGALY and YES they did help make America what it is today. I'm fine with anybody that comes here LEGALY, adjusts to OUR way of live and doesn't expect me to adjust to their way of life or support them.




Actually there are many many white folks who did not come here "legally" who have been here generations now.

Legality wasn't an issue years ago so white folks ancestors did not have to jump hoops if they didn't come through Ellis Island or whatever. You were here and you were here, that is all.

So white people can climb off their high horse about it.
Their ancestors might be illegally here too.

Unless you are native American you can't claim ownership of this country because you might be born of an illegal crossing into here.

Now lets get to adjusting to others. We should be speaking more than one language here and Spanish is a good start. We are becoming a world community.

I hate the old American stick in the mud or up my butt attitude that we don't need improvement here. We have lots of room for improvement and one of them is learning more languages.

As for supporting others unless you pay income taxes at the end of the year and not get a refund, you don't pay for anyone else, so moot point for most of the people on this site.




~whips out citizen papers~ I would be more than willing to show my LEGAL right to be here. If they want to add it in the bill go for it I will show gleefully to help the problem (if any). I wouldnt care if it would help the HUGE PROBLEM we have in Az.


and that is what they need to do, MANDATE everyone show citizenship papers when stopped, and not just those 'suspected' of being an illegal immigrant


:banana: :banana: YAY! :banana: :banana: Sounds like a plan I would TOTALLY! Next step... How would the american people implement the government to change the bill? I would be first in line!:banana:




I would suggest something like the AA policies. IN those areas of the country where the numbers PROVE there is a high incidence of immigrants entering the country, there should be positive policies in place to counteract that,,such as mandatory citizenship verification for police , and mandatory citizenship verification for schools and employers.

no photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:26 PM






well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case




Do you honestly expect me to believe that someone that gets paid in CASH and is here illegaly, pays taxes on it?


Your funnyrofl rofl


I guess the fact that they buy all the same household products and food and lights and stuff that we do and pay taxes on doesn't count eh?


So do criminals. Not a very good point.


Which criminals, the ones incarcerated? Or the ones on the streets who haven't been convicted of anything yet? Making them suspects not criminals.


Both!

Prisoners...do have to buy their items. Not quite sure they are taxed.

People who have been jailed numerous times for drug dealing, DUI, DWI. Repeat offenders.frustrated


msharmony's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:28 PM






well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case




Do you honestly expect me to believe that someone that gets paid in CASH and is here illegaly, pays taxes on it?


Your funnyrofl rofl


I guess the fact that they buy all the same household products and food and lights and stuff that we do and pay taxes on doesn't count eh?



Not when OUR government GIVES them the money to spend.


Oh man, here we go again.

Illegals cannot get any government money. It is illegal for them to get it.

The federal government doesn't allow illegals to receive any kind of benefits from the government.

Do I have to prove this one again?

I get so tired of the bull **** people spread around amongst themselves without ever verifying the validity of it.



this is not true across the board though. I have a cousin right now who is a government employee whose job it is in part to go out and provide RESOURCES for people (including illegal immigrants), point them to healthcare and financial assistance resources.

no photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:28 PM






well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case




Do you honestly expect me to believe that someone that gets paid in CASH and is here illegaly, pays taxes on it?


Your funnyrofl rofl


I guess the fact that they buy all the same household products and food and lights and stuff that we do and pay taxes on doesn't count eh?



Not when OUR government GIVES them the money to spend.


Oh man, here we go again.

Illegals cannot get any government money. It is illegal for them to get it.

The federal government doesn't allow illegals to receive any kind of benefits from the government.

Do I have to prove this one again?

I get so tired of the bull **** people spread around amongst themselves without ever verifying the validity of it.


Ever heard of fake ids? Fake documentation most people don't look hard at (food stamps, des).

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:29 PM







well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case




Do you honestly expect me to believe that someone that gets paid in CASH and is here illegaly, pays taxes on it?


Your funnyrofl rofl


I guess the fact that they buy all the same household products and food and lights and stuff that we do and pay taxes on doesn't count eh?


So do criminals. Not a very good point.


Which criminals, the ones incarcerated? Or the ones on the streets who haven't been convicted of anything yet? Making them suspects not criminals.


Both!

Prisoners...do have to buy their items. Not quite sure they are taxed.

People who have been jailed numerous times for drug dealing, DUI, DWI. Repeat offenders.frustrated




So suspects who pay taxes bother you?

Also criminals who pay taxes bother you?

what

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/17/10 03:30 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Sat 07/17/10 03:31 PM







well, technically, income taxes are but ONE type of tax that goes towards helping others,,, we pay taxes on gas, utilities, tolls, and a whole list of things ,,,we wouldnt make it if we only had income taxes because of the reason you mentioned,, not enough people pay into income tax,,,


Except illegals pay all those taxes also so they deserve to receive help in that case




Do you honestly expect me to believe that someone that gets paid in CASH and is here illegaly, pays taxes on it?


Your funnyrofl rofl


I guess the fact that they buy all the same household products and food and lights and stuff that we do and pay taxes on doesn't count eh?



Not when OUR government GIVES them the money to spend.


Oh man, here we go again.

Illegals cannot get any government money. It is illegal for them to get it.

The federal government doesn't allow illegals to receive any kind of benefits from the government.

Do I have to prove this one again?

I get so tired of the bull **** people spread around amongst themselves without ever verifying the validity of it.



this is not true across the board though. I have a cousin right now who is a government employee whose job it is in part to go out and provide RESOURCES for people (including illegal immigrants), point them to healthcare and financial assistance resources.


Yea community advocates do not give them cash or foodstamp though.

Communities donate money for things but it is not a government program.

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