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Topic: Ok, seriously skeptical
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Thu 12/30/10 10:59 AM


The number of people on the forums is VERY small compared to the number of people that are on the site. The majority of emailing goes on between members. We don't see that.

Many probably have never even ventured into or realize there is a forum. So, if they meet someone they wouldn't think to announce it, because the majority of people don't participate in the forums.

Those of us who are on the forums may be talking because we haven't met someone. So, even if you don't hear about it, it happens all the time. They are just so happy that they leave and move on about their lives.

They haven't developed the friendships that some of us experience on the forums. I've been on several other dating sites. I have never participated in any other forum but here. There are successes every day, we just don't hear about them.





I agree with what you are saying, and there are a couple people on the forum that have met someone. All i'm saying is that being on any site majority of people that don't find someone out ways the ones that do. This is do to location, attraction, communication. Then you have a lot of people that just like to chat. Then you have your down side of people that play games, other that mention people only wanting sex, cheaters etc etc. So it all comes down to that not many people are actually serious about meeting someone and building a relationship. So knowing all the people I know that have been on the forum for the last 4 years and some still are that would like to meet someone. Are still single. It says a lot for what the net actually has to offer.


When it comes to women, men make more of the effort in the beginning, but as you laddies know. How many of the emails you get from men are actually wanted emails? Or better yet, how many of them will you reply to that your actually interested in? Ill bet there are more emaile that are not wanted then wanted.




Why do you think this just happening online? And out of those people, how do you know if they've been looking for the entire last 4 years, or if they've dated in between?

Why do you think only men make more of an effort in the beginning?

If you're here, you're going to get emails from people you aren't interested in. Just as if you go out somewhere to meet people, you are going to get hit on by people you are not interested in. I don't see it as being much different.

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Thu 12/30/10 11:44 AM
Edited by red_lace on Thu 12/30/10 11:47 AM


The number of people on the forums is VERY small compared to the number of people that are on the site. The majority of emailing goes on between members. We don't see that.

Many probably have never even ventured into or realize there is a forum. So, if they meet someone they wouldn't think to announce it, because the majority of people don't participate in the forums.

Those of us who are on the forums may be talking because we haven't met someone. So, even if you don't hear about it, it happens all the time. They are just so happy that they leave and move on about their lives.

They haven't developed the friendships that some of us experience on the forums. I've been on several other dating sites. I have never participated in any other forum but here. There are successes every day, we just don't hear about them.





I agree with what you are saying, and there are a couple people on the forum that have met someone. All i'm saying is that being on any site majority of people that don't find someone out ways the ones that do. This is do to location, attraction, communication. Then you have a lot of people that just like to chat. Then you have your down side of people that play games, other that mention people only wanting sex, cheaters etc etc. So it all comes down to that not many people are actually serious about meeting someone and building a relationship. So knowing all the people I know that have been on the forum for the last 4 years and some still are that would like to meet someone. Are still single. It says a lot for what the net actually has to offer.


When it comes to women, men make more of the effort in the beginning, but as you laddies know. How many of the emails you get from men are actually wanted emails? Or better yet, how many of them will you reply to that your actually interested in? Ill bet there are more emaile that are not wanted then wanted.




Doesn't the same thing happen outside the cyber world? What you described here is what happens everyday in life. :)

Registering on a dating site doesn't guarantee you a relationship. Inside or outside the net, we all take our chances.

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Thu 12/30/10 01:03 PM



The number of people on the forums is VERY small compared to the number of people that are on the site. The majority of emailing goes on between members. We don't see that.

Many probably have never even ventured into or realize there is a forum. So, if they meet someone they wouldn't think to announce it, because the majority of people don't participate in the forums.

Those of us who are on the forums may be talking because we haven't met someone. So, even if you don't hear about it, it happens all the time. They are just so happy that they leave and move on about their lives.

They haven't developed the friendships that some of us experience on the forums. I've been on several other dating sites. I have never participated in any other forum but here. There are successes every day, we just don't hear about them.





I agree with what you are saying, and there are a couple people on the forum that have met someone. All i'm saying is that being on any site majority of people that don't find someone out ways the ones that do. This is do to location, attraction, communication. Then you have a lot of people that just like to chat. Then you have your down side of people that play games, other that mention people only wanting sex, cheaters etc etc. So it all comes down to that not many people are actually serious about meeting someone and building a relationship. So knowing all the people I know that have been on the forum for the last 4 years and some still are that would like to meet someone. Are still single. It says a lot for what the net actually has to offer.


When it comes to women, men make more of the effort in the beginning, but as you laddies know. How many of the emails you get from men are actually wanted emails? Or better yet, how many of them will you reply to that your actually interested in? Ill bet there are more emaile that are not wanted then wanted.




Why do you think this just happening online? And out of those people, how do you know if they've been looking for the entire last 4 years, or if they've dated in between?

Why do you think only men make more of an effort in the beginning?

If you're here, you're going to get emails from people you aren't interested in. Just as if you go out somewhere to meet people, you are going to get hit on by people you are not interested in. I don't see it as being much different.



I'm not saying it just happens on line, but ill bet you more so then off. I stay in touch with people and they pop in from time to time and give ups dates. Dating and actually meeting someone that is looking to build a relationship is two different things. You're online right? So trying to get to know someone to an extent. That only goes so far, but people find out that other are not as willing to put much effort in to the on line dating compare to someone that they have met off line. It's that face to face and the net does not do it for everyone. People change being on the net, you don't have a chance to see what their everyday life is like compare to meeting someone threw friends. And you will never really know until you actually meet to even get an idea.



I'm not saying on line dating is bad. I'm just saying that it's not all cut out to be what its meant for. It's become the place socialize and not really anything else.

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Thu 12/30/10 01:06 PM
Edited by TheShadow on Thu 12/30/10 01:10 PM


Doesn't the same thing happen outside the cyber world? What you described here is what happens everyday in life. :)



Yes to an exten, because the interaction with someone compare to a pic, a no name face is way different.


You do not have the same connection with someone on the net compared to off.

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Thu 12/30/10 02:29 PM
I have a few ideas for you. Do you like reading? Their are tons of girls in a book store, and it doesnt have to be weird, just ask her suggestions or oppinion on a specific book, especially if shes in your favorite section:). Your a handsome guy, just be friendly and she wont think your weird, shes probobly not really looking for a book either if you know what i mean. I also do not see much potential in a bar scene. Try taking a dance class or yoga class, once they find out your not gay...dude you have so many girls to choose from. If you see a girl in the street just stop her try jumping in front of her like its a funny thing to do. JUST ****ING DO IT MAN DONT HESITATE, Say I would kick myself if i didnt stop you, and comment on something you like about her or why you stoped her, if she doesnt like being called pretty or complimented talk about something in the environment, especially when you dont know what to say next, kid around with her, invite her for a cofee and ask her questions, The problem is the one liners or fixed routines, you have to be natural and have natural game. That way when you screw up its not a big deal you just move on and THAT my friend is smooth. I find making coments on the environment are a fresh breath of air for most women, like opinion on a book, an art expo...you get the picture. Have you heard of Vin Dicarlo? Hes a dating coach and he teaches natural game. I think he could help you, and you can download all his stuff for free on torrent sights. Check out Attraction Code (book) Dating Diablo(mp3) Sexual Selection Switch(mp3) Conversation Cure(video) No Flakes (video) that should get you started. It's not minipulative in anyway, its a very natural thing, and makes both male and the female feel better, Im sure he can teach you ALOT! the most minipulative thing i came across was, you see a girl sitting down at the mall by herself possibly reading a book or listening to music, dont worry she wouldnt mind the company shes bored. You go to her and say can i have your number? JUST KIDDING you say is this seat taken? girl:no she will expect you to take it and go to your friends, but instead you sit down, ill leave the rest up to you :). Maybe girls think its creepy that i would go threw all this effort to learn psychology and so on...but their was a poll done...if their was a book to help guys be better talking on the phone 99 percent said yes.

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Thu 12/30/10 03:23 PM




The number of people on the forums is VERY small compared to the number of people that are on the site. The majority of emailing goes on between members. We don't see that.

Many probably have never even ventured into or realize there is a forum. So, if they meet someone they wouldn't think to announce it, because the majority of people don't participate in the forums.

Those of us who are on the forums may be talking because we haven't met someone. So, even if you don't hear about it, it happens all the time. They are just so happy that they leave and move on about their lives.

They haven't developed the friendships that some of us experience on the forums. I've been on several other dating sites. I have never participated in any other forum but here. There are successes every day, we just don't hear about them.





I agree with what you are saying, and there are a couple people on the forum that have met someone. All i'm saying is that being on any site majority of people that don't find someone out ways the ones that do. This is do to location, attraction, communication. Then you have a lot of people that just like to chat. Then you have your down side of people that play games, other that mention people only wanting sex, cheaters etc etc. So it all comes down to that not many people are actually serious about meeting someone and building a relationship. So knowing all the people I know that have been on the forum for the last 4 years and some still are that would like to meet someone. Are still single. It says a lot for what the net actually has to offer.


When it comes to women, men make more of the effort in the beginning, but as you laddies know. How many of the emails you get from men are actually wanted emails? Or better yet, how many of them will you reply to that your actually interested in? Ill bet there are more emaile that are not wanted then wanted.




Why do you think this just happening online? And out of those people, how do you know if they've been looking for the entire last 4 years, or if they've dated in between?

Why do you think only men make more of an effort in the beginning?

If you're here, you're going to get emails from people you aren't interested in. Just as if you go out somewhere to meet people, you are going to get hit on by people you are not interested in. I don't see it as being much different.



I'm not saying it just happens on line, but ill bet you more so then off. I stay in touch with people and they pop in from time to time and give ups dates. Dating and actually meeting someone that is looking to build a relationship is two different things. You're online right? So trying to get to know someone to an extent. That only goes so far, but people find out that other are not as willing to put much effort in to the on line dating compare to someone that they have met off line. It's that face to face and the net does not do it for everyone. People change being on the net, you don't have a chance to see what their everyday life is like compare to meeting someone threw friends. And you will never really know until you actually meet to even get an idea.



I'm not saying on line dating is bad. I'm just saying that it's not all cut out to be what its meant for. It's become the place socialize and not really anything else.


Yep, I'm online, as I am posting here. However, that does not mean this is the only place I meet people. This is just another way to meet people. That's all.

You didn't answer what I was asking, though. You're just assuming that because people are still here, they're still looking and haven't found anyone. Why do you think it's just men who are putting in more effort in the beginning.

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Thu 12/30/10 08:41 PM
Edited by TheShadow on Thu 12/30/10 08:43 PM


You didn't answer what I was asking, though. You're just assuming that because people are still here, they're still looking and haven't found anyone. Why do you think it's just men who are putting in more effort in the beginning.



To answer the first part about people still being here. It's because reality set in about on line dating. It's just one big chat room laugh


Come on :tongue: think about it. Are you going to really sit here and think what I'm just chatting to you about isn't the truth? Why the heck do you think there are so many people that are single that are on the net? Because if you could just hit it off with someone right from the start. Sites would be dead,even this forum would be. We can go back and forth on thislaugh but the truth is, this site like many or more just about chatting then anything else.

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Thu 12/30/10 09:19 PM



You didn't answer what I was asking, though. You're just assuming that because people are still here, they're still looking and haven't found anyone. Why do you think it's just men who are putting in more effort in the beginning.



To answer the first part about people still being here. It's because reality set in about on line dating. It's just one big chat room laugh


Come on :tongue: think about it. Are you going to really sit here and think what I'm just chatting to you about isn't the truth? Why the heck do you think there are so many people that are single that are on the net? Because if you could just hit it off with someone right from the start. Sites would be dead,even this forum would be. We can go back and forth on thislaugh but the truth is, this site like many or more just about chatting then anything else.


You're posting this on a forum. Of course that's all about chatting.

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Fri 12/31/10 03:54 AM
Edited by red_lace on Fri 12/31/10 03:54 AM


Yes to an exten, because the interaction with someone compare to a pic, a no name face is way different.


You do not have the same connection with someone on the net compared to off.


Just because what you said are the only things you've seen, it doesn't mean they're the only things that are. :)

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Fri 12/31/10 10:26 PM
Edited by TheShadow on Fri 12/31/10 10:32 PM



Yes to an exten, because the interaction with someone compare to a pic, a no name face is way different.


You do not have the same connection with someone on the net compared to off.


Just because what you said are the only things you've seen, it doesn't mean they're the only things that are. :)




No one said that they are they only things. And what I have said, many other have seen the same things and view the same why on some things.

There is nothing wrong in having hope which you are expressing. I'm just looking at reality for what it is. And for me it is that I have a better chance on looking for someone off the net, then on if and when I choose to start looking again.

Everyone sees things different and there is nothing wrong with that either. From sharing and seeing many post on a few sites. You can take people more serious off the net then you can on, and thats because there is that face to face connection that you do not have by looking at a pic sending emails.



Had to add and this is just a joke to an extent. But if anytime for what ever reason it comes to your mind that you can fall in love with a pic on the net that you have never met. This conversation will be over for melaugh

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