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It will never happen. Romney will never debate RP. Mittens is too fake.
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and at this point, why would you throw a hitch in your own game
he is already ahead,,,with 700 delegates left and Romney needing only a hundred some more and Paul needing more than the 700 |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Wed 05/23/12 03:24 PM
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and at this point, why would you throw a hitch in your own game he is already ahead,,,with 700 delegates left and Romney needing only a hundred some more and Paul needing more than the 700 THAT is a BS media count! http://www.thereal2012delegatecount.com/ And 1/3 OR MORE of Robmes delegates support Ron Paul! Robme has 453 with over 1/3 supporting RP! Paul has 168 that won't support ANYONE but Paul.....DO THE MATH! |
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and at this point, why would you throw a hitch in your own game he is already ahead,,,with 700 delegates left and Romney needing only a hundred some more and Paul needing more than the 700 THAT is a BS media count! http://www.thereal2012delegatecount.com/ And 1/3 OR MORE of Robmes delegates support Ron Paul! its the same accounting they have used in all PREVIOUS media counts,,, |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Wed 05/23/12 03:27 PM
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and at this point, why would you throw a hitch in your own game he is already ahead,,,with 700 delegates left and Romney needing only a hundred some more and Paul needing more than the 700 THAT is a BS media count! http://www.thereal2012delegatecount.com/ And 1/3 OR MORE of Robmes delegates support Ron Paul! its the same accounting they have used in all PREVIOUS media counts,,, And THIS election, it is challenged and proven to be ficticious, MSM lies and deception! |
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and at this point, why would you throw a hitch in your own game he is already ahead,,,with 700 delegates left and Romney needing only a hundred some more and Paul needing more than the 700 THAT is a BS media count! http://www.thereal2012delegatecount.com/ And 1/3 OR MORE of Robmes delegates support Ron Paul! its the same accounting they have used in all PREVIOUS media counts,,, And THIS election, it is challenge and proven to be ficticious! apparently the proof is not widely accepted or aknowledged as such,,, |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Wed 05/23/12 03:35 PM
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and at this point, why would you throw a hitch in your own game he is already ahead,,,with 700 delegates left and Romney needing only a hundred some more and Paul needing more than the 700 THAT is a BS media count! http://www.thereal2012delegatecount.com/ And 1/3 OR MORE of Robmes delegates support Ron Paul! its the same accounting they have used in all PREVIOUS media counts,,, And THIS election, it is challenge and proven to be ficticious! apparently the proof is not widely accepted or aknowledged as such,,, THAT is the difference between an HONEST election and "more of the same' in candidates! Turn off Faux and go to the link I provided above! Or read my last post here! http://mingle2.com/topic/show/328149 |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Wed 05/23/12 03:41 PM
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Delegates are "voted" to a state slate, NOT awarded by the media OR popular vote during a primary or caucus!
How many times must I say this before people get it?! |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Wed 05/23/12 03:50 PM
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Simple english....
Robme won Florida, but the delegate caucuses HAVE NOT been held yet! Robme may get 50 delegates, but if THOSE delegates are Ron Paul supporters, by popular vote is the DELEGATE CAUCUS, then Robme DIDN'T win them! Paul did! They will show as Robme delegates by award, BUT THEY ARE NOT BOUND TO VOTE FOR ROBME IN TAMPA! |
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and at this point, why would you throw a hitch in your own game he is already ahead,,,with 700 delegates left and Romney needing only a hundred some more and Paul needing more than the 700 THAT is a BS media count! http://www.thereal2012delegatecount.com/ And 1/3 OR MORE of Robmes delegates support Ron Paul! its the same accounting they have used in all PREVIOUS media counts,,, And THIS election, it is challenge and proven to be ficticious! apparently the proof is not widely accepted or aknowledged as such,,, THAT is the difference between an HONEST election and "more of the same' in candidates! Turn off Faux and go to the link I provided above! Or read my last post here! http://mingle2.com/topic/show/328149 I actually dont watch fox when I Want what I consider to be factual reporting,,, these are the sources I used elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/delegates www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/.../republican_delegate_count.html www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2012/calculator http://www.cbsnews.com/primary-election-results-2012/scorecard.shtml?party=R [/url |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Wed 05/23/12 04:02 PM
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and at this point, why would you throw a hitch in your own game he is already ahead,,,with 700 delegates left and Romney needing only a hundred some more and Paul needing more than the 700 THAT is a BS media count! http://www.thereal2012delegatecount.com/ And 1/3 OR MORE of Robmes delegates support Ron Paul! its the same accounting they have used in all PREVIOUS media counts,,, And THIS election, it is challenge and proven to be ficticious! apparently the proof is not widely accepted or aknowledged as such,,, THAT is the difference between an HONEST election and "more of the same' in candidates! Turn off Faux and go to the link I provided above! Or read my last post here! http://mingle2.com/topic/show/328149 I actually dont watch fox when I Want what I consider to be factual reporting,,, these are the sources I used elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/delegates www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/.../republican_delegate_count.html www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2012/calculator http://www.cbsnews.com/primary-election-results-2012/scorecard.shtml?party=R TAKEN FROM FROM MEDIA PRESSTITUTE PRESS! And their corporate sponsors! Try this one! Delegates ARE NOT awarded by the press! http://www.thereal2012delegatecount.com/ These are comments by Jerry Davis at Lawyers for Ron Paul: "1. "It IS ILLEGAL TO FORCE ANYONE TO VOTE ANY CERTAIN WAY...PERIOD!!!!" 2. "ALL of the 'binding' IS under civil constitutional law....VERIFIABLY...ILLEGAL." 3. "We are not even going the rule 38 route, ANY means of manipulating a vote, whether by proxy or by unit, is illegal." 4. "The RNC's use of these rules in their very nature, are illegal, but no-one has brought this to the table yet."VOTE ANY CERTAIN WAY...PERIOD!!!! ALL of the "binding" IS under civil constitutional law....VERIFIABLY...ILLEGAL." |
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I will say this again.... Just a "little" info for your records..... Even tho Robme may have delegates going in to Tampa, MANY of those "elected" delegates are Ron Paul supporters, NOT Robme! It seems the Robme camp can't get enough people to support him to fill the delegate rosters, so they are being filled by Ron Paul supporters ACTIVE in the delegate process! Forget rule 38 of the RNC, it is there because the RNC knows they can't enforce a delegate being "bound" .... These are comments by Jerry Davis at Lawyers for Ron Paul: "1. "It IS ILLEGAL TO FORCE ANYONE TO VOTE ANY CERTAIN WAY...PERIOD!!!!" 2. "ALL of the 'binding' IS under civil constitutional law....VERIFIABLY...ILLEGAL." 3. "We are not even going the rule 38 route, ANY means of manipulating a vote, whether by proxy or by unit, is illegal." 4. "The RNC's use of these rules in their very nature, are illegal, but no-one has brought this to the table yet."VOTE ANY CERTAIN WAY...PERIOD!!!! ALL of the "binding" IS under civil constitutional law....VERIFIABLY...ILLEGAL." Robme has 453 ACTUAL delegates, MANY are Ron Paul supporters, perhaps 1/3! Paul has 168 ACTUAL delegates (who will vote for NOBODY but Paul!) and is set to sweep or control many of the remaining state delegate caucuses between now and the RNC convention in Tampa! There are lawsuits in progress against the RNC for violations of voting laws and their own rules, trying to prevent this from happening, but they have NOT got the support, or people, to do it legally, by "Roberts Rules" at caucus conventions! Why is Ron Paul still in it? TO WIN IT! Because the facts don't support what the RNC and the lame stream media Presstitutes are trying to sell the American people on TV! |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Wed 05/23/12 04:12 PM
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I dont know where these 'facts' come from
is there some source that has surveyed all delegates to find out who they individually support? where can we research that type of information for ourself? is there some way of proving they cant or dont change their position ? |
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I dont know where these 'facts' come from is there some source that has surveyed all delegates to find out who they individually support? where can we research that type of information for ourself? ABSOLUTELY! They are called delegate conventions, which have been reported by only SOME of the media outlets. Rachael Maddow, Ben Swann, even Faux has been telling everyone it's happening, BUT NOT TO WHAT DEGREE! And there is always a spin at the end that Robme "Will be the nominee...."..... Not by any means is THAT a given if Paul supporters continue to win state chairs and other positions of power within the GOP as they have been! Just a little research, away from the corporate networks will reveal a whole new set of CONFIRMED facts! |
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I dont know where these 'facts' come from is there some source that has surveyed all delegates to find out who they individually support? where can we research that type of information for ourself? ABSOLUTELY! They are called delegate conventions, which have been reported by only SOME of the media outlets. Rachael Maddow, Ben Swann, even Faux has been telling everyone it's happening, BUT NOT TO WHAT DEGREE! And there is always a spin at the end that Robme "Will be the nominee...."..... Not by any means is THAT a given if Paul supporters continue to win state chairs and other positions of power within the GOP as they have been! Just a little research, away from the corporate networks will reveal a whole new set of CONFIRMED facts! I still cant find any specific numbers about these conventions, I knew they happened, and always have, my mom was invited to one, usually is but I didnt recall them ever being reported on in the past either,,, and I Think the forecasting is following the past trends that these conventions followed but, who knows in the end its most likely going to be Romney, based upon the past trend of this same type of forecasting, as much as Paul supporters wish otherwise and maybe Romeny will let Paul be VP,,,and we can go all wild west/confederacy on the world,,,, |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Wed 05/23/12 04:38 PM
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There hasn't been an election like this since Harding....and he won! You can say Reagan too.... he won by delegate count when America was told he didn't have a chance! History may just repeat itself! Come to think of it, that's how Obozo beat Clinton! And it was the "youth" vote (that now supports Paul after their Obozo disappointment) that clinched it for him! |
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So that they can debate dribble drabbil, I guess, if they will....
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Wed 05/23/12 07:07 PM
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It amazes me how truly uninformed the American voter is!
How little they actually know of the process, the work, hours, and dedication that goes in to trying to make a change from our "more of the same" system of crony politics, to one of restored freedoms and liberty for all. Not so much a new one, as a return to one that served the people well the 1st 150 years of our independence! Not a return to the old ways, but rather to the old principlals set forth by the constitution. A REVIVAL OF SPIRIT AND PATRIOTISM! Our 2 party system is like a coin, heads or tails, it's the same coin, minted and made with the same metal on both sides! To make it different, you must change the die, and it is never cheap or easy to replace machinery that has been rusted in place, pumping out the same coins, with only the date changing, maybe a face now and then, for years! That is the battle of the Ron Paul Movement! To change the mold, upgrade the machinery, and present a fresh new coin to the public. THIS IS THE CHALLENGE OUR YOUTH HAVE CHOSEN TO UNDERTAKE! They now are attending election processes, running for elected office, spending hours of every day educating themselves, challenging themselves and the system we have burdened them with to promote our own pacification. Most would rather sit on the couch with a pizza and a beer, watching their favorite commercials between 3 or 4 minutes of program interuptions. We should be ashamed for deserting our children as we have, ladening them with debt and dispair, video sex and violence as their babysitters while young, then chastising their rebellion for something better, different. Many chastize Ron Paul, call him looney, fringe, crazy. NOT our youth! They have found a messenger that excites, inspires and challenges their creative and passionate intellects! We have failed to give them anything of value to look foreward to, so they are now taking it for themselves..... and still again, we are doing all we can to keep it from them! SHAME ON US AMERICA! |
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