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1. Ive never said this "I'm better than you because it doesn't effect me" for a change. 2. the internet has Billions of links 'affirming' one opinion or another, opinions without logic or fact dont persuade me 3. you are as free to your opinion as I am and free to debate them with some logical rebuttal rather than emotionalism and name calling too,,, kudos  I am one who will speak out against anything I feel is "abusive" to rights and freedom. MsH....I have defended you often as a "level head" in these forums, but that statement drove a stake thru my heart! You have just condemned EVERYTHING I fought to defend, and others like me! The abuse of freedom, the destruction of our currency, the inflation of our economy, the molestation by TSA agents abusing their power.... Saddly, sounds unAmerican in my book! |
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1. Ive never said this "I'm better than you because it doesn't effect me" for a change. 2. the internet has Billions of links 'affirming' one opinion or another, opinions without logic or fact dont persuade me 3. you are as free to your opinion as I am and free to debate them with some logical rebuttal rather than emotionalism and name calling too,,, kudos I am one who will speak out against anything I feel is "abusive" to rights and freedom. MsH....I have defended you often as a "level head" in these forums, but that statement drove a stake thru my heart! You have just condemned EVERYTHING I fought to defend, and others like me! The abuse of freedom, the destruction of our currency, the inflation of our economy, the molestation by TSA agents abusing their power.... Saddly, sounds unAmerican in my book! what, specifically, were the 'condemning' words I used? my brother 'fought' and still 'fights, in our military so IM not sure the relevance of that either being american is about having the FREEDOM to voice an opinion, whether we agree or disagree vet or non vet status makes one no more or less 'american', neither do opinions,,, |
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Mon 06/04/12 02:29 PM
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1. Ive never said this "I'm better than you because it doesn't effect me" for a change. 2. the internet has Billions of links 'affirming' one opinion or another, opinions without logic or fact dont persuade me 3. you are as free to your opinion as I am and free to debate them with some logical rebuttal rather than emotionalism and name calling too,,, kudos I am one who will speak out against anything I feel is "abusive" to rights and freedom. MsH....I have defended you often as a "level head" in these forums, but that statement drove a stake thru my heart! You have just condemned EVERYTHING I fought to defend, and others like me! The abuse of freedom, the destruction of our currency, the inflation of our economy, the molestation by TSA agents abusing their power.... Saddly, sounds unAmerican in my book! what, specifically, were the 'condemning' words I used? Eliminate "corruption is bad" and take your pick....essentially, all of them! |
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Mon 06/04/12 02:29 PM
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1. Ive never said this "I'm better than you because it doesn't effect me" for a change. 2. the internet has Billions of links 'affirming' one opinion or another, opinions without logic or fact dont persuade me 3. you are as free to your opinion as I am and free to debate them with some logical rebuttal rather than emotionalism and name calling too,,, kudos I am one who will speak out against anything I feel is "abusive" to rights and freedom. MsH....I have defended you often as a "level head" in these forums, but that statement drove a stake thru my heart! You have just condemned EVERYTHING I fought to defend, and others like me! The abuse of freedom, the destruction of our currency, the inflation of our economy, the molestation by TSA agents abusing their power.... Saddly, sounds unAmerican in my book! what, specifically, were the 'condemning' words I used? Eliminate "corruption is bad" and take your pick....essentually, all of them! come on ss, that is still vague so the statement wars are inevitable,,,,,is unamerican? who does it 'condemn'? |
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Sojourning_Soul
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Mon 06/04/12 02:35 PM
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1. Ive never said this "I'm better than you because it doesn't effect me" for a change. 2. the internet has Billions of links 'affirming' one opinion or another, opinions without logic or fact dont persuade me 3. you are as free to your opinion as I am and free to debate them with some logical rebuttal rather than emotionalism and name calling too,,, kudos I am one who will speak out against anything I feel is "abusive" to rights and freedom. MsH....I have defended you often as a "level head" in these forums, but that statement drove a stake thru my heart! You have just condemned EVERYTHING I fought to defend, and others like me! The abuse of freedom, the destruction of our currency, the inflation of our economy, the molestation by TSA agents abusing their power.... Saddly, sounds unAmerican in my book! what, specifically, were the 'condemning' words I used? Eliminate "corruption is bad" and take your pick....essentually, all of them! come on ss, that is still vague so the statement wars are inevitable,,,,,is unamerican? War is definately inevitable with a little wisdom, understanding and willingness to to accept the fact that nations and their people differ and have rights too! When it is nessessary the people and congress will agree.....NOT THE POTUS OF HIS OWN ACCORD! I have as much right in that regard as he does, and I would go to prison or be executed for those actions! |
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1. Ive never said this "I'm better than you because it doesn't effect me" for a change. 2. the internet has Billions of links 'affirming' one opinion or another, opinions without logic or fact dont persuade me 3. you are as free to your opinion as I am and free to debate them with some logical rebuttal rather than emotionalism and name calling too,,, kudos I am one who will speak out against anything I feel is "abusive" to rights and freedom. MsH....I have defended you often as a "level head" in these forums, but that statement drove a stake thru my heart! You have just condemned EVERYTHING I fought to defend, and others like me! The abuse of freedom, the destruction of our currency, the inflation of our economy, the molestation by TSA agents abusing their power.... Saddly, sounds unAmerican in my book! what, specifically, were the 'condemning' words I used? Eliminate "corruption is bad" and take your pick....essentually, all of them! come on ss, that is still vague so the statement wars are inevitable,,,,,is unamerican? War is definately inevitable with a little wisdom, understanding and willingness to to accept the fact that nations and their people differ and have rights too! When it is nessessary the people and congress will agree.....NOT THE POTUS OF HIS OWN ACCORD! still lost on who I 'condemned' with my opinions? |
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Try the "rights of all Americans to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". RIGHTS....not a freedom! |
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Try the "rights of all Americans to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". RIGHTS....not a freedom! more slogans, still no information,,, |
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Mon 06/04/12 03:09 PM
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Try the "rights of all Americans to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". RIGHTS....not a freedom! more slogans, still no information,,, The fact that you basicly told everyone PHUCK THE CONSTITUTION HAS NO BARING OF COURSE! I think someone with that outlook should have their patriotism questioned! And I quote: "I respect the constitution, I dont 'defend' it though, it was written originally for a much smaller population during a much simpler times and even then was not written for the benefit of EVERYONE You just labeled every serviceman and woman a murderer, and made their actions and sacrifices meaningless! Much like your hero Obozo has done! |
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Mon 06/04/12 04:32 PM
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Try the "rights of all Americans to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". RIGHTS....not a freedom! more slogans, still no information,,, The fact that you basicly told everyone PHUCK THE CONSTITUTION HAS NO BARING OF COURSE! I think someone with that outlook should have their patriotism questioned! And I quote: "I respect the constitution, I dont 'defend' it though, it was written originally for a much smaller population during a much simpler times and even then was not written for the benefit of EVERYONE You just labeled every serviceman and woman a murderer, and made their actions and sacrifices meaningless! Much like your hero Obozo has done! more emotionalism I no moee said f the constitution in my opinions than you are saying F one of our founding fathers Thomas Jefferson, who, in theory, believed just what I do and I certainly didnt label anyone a murder or label any sacrifice meaningless much of those 'sacrifices' of the past have , in fact, resulted in the ORIGINAL constitution continuing to be AMENDED...as it should be,,because it is not eternally perfect this discourse is taking tangents that have little basis in logic I neither 'love' nor 'defend' land or documents, I will love and defend people though if that is 'un american',, so be it,,, |
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Try the "rights of all Americans to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". RIGHTS....not a freedom! more slogans, still no information,,, The fact that you basicly told everyone PHUCK THE CONSTITUTION HAS NO BARING OF COURSE! I think someone with that outlook should have their patriotism questioned! And I quote: "I respect the constitution, I dont 'defend' it though, it was written originally for a much smaller population during a much simpler times and even then was not written for the benefit of EVERYONE You just labeled every serviceman and woman a murderer, and made their actions and sacrifices meaningless! Much like your hero Obozo has done! more emotionalism I no moee said f the constitution in my opinions than you are saying F one of our founding fathers Thomas Jefferson, who, in theory, believed just what I do and I certainly didnt label anyone a murder or label any sacrifice meaningless much of those 'sacrifices' of the past have , in fact, resulted in the ORIGINAL constitution continuing to be AMENDED...as it should be,,because it is not eternally perfect this discourse is taking tangents that have little basis in logic I neither 'love' nor 'defend' land or documents, I will love and defend people though if that is 'un american',, so be it,,, I love this country and it's people (even you) enough to feel that it is worth defending with my life. I trust few of them, agree with less, but other than closing their eyes or holding their noses to vote, the majority are good honest people. Interpretation is one thing, amending is another! You have to trust the lawmakers to trust their judgement....I do neither! Statements such as yours strike at the very heart of the country and its defenders. Talk down your nose all you want from behind those rose colored glasses, your arrogance intact, while you say you don't defend the constitution. Just as the fascist ploys to deceive and confuse that your hero and his teleprompter are so good at! Race baiting, lieing, distortion, all plays to strategy in the Obozo handbook. Pick-pockets come to mind! Use one issue to conceal another more dire in nature. Someone with NO regard for the constitution IS unAmerican! It is a document signed in the blood of patriots, which is now being destroyed by those such as yourself who have NO regard for it....or the sacrifice of those who defend it .....AS IS! If it walks like a duck....... |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Mon 06/04/12 06:24 PM
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Try the "rights of all Americans to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". RIGHTS....not a freedom! more slogans, still no information,,, The fact that you basicly told everyone PHUCK THE CONSTITUTION HAS NO BARING OF COURSE! I think someone with that outlook should have their patriotism questioned! And I quote: "I respect the constitution, I dont 'defend' it though, it was written originally for a much smaller population during a much simpler times and even then was not written for the benefit of EVERYONE You just labeled every serviceman and woman a murderer, and made their actions and sacrifices meaningless! Much like your hero Obozo has done! more emotionalism I no moee said f the constitution in my opinions than you are saying F one of our founding fathers Thomas Jefferson, who, in theory, believed just what I do and I certainly didnt label anyone a murder or label any sacrifice meaningless much of those 'sacrifices' of the past have , in fact, resulted in the ORIGINAL constitution continuing to be AMENDED...as it should be,,because it is not eternally perfect this discourse is taking tangents that have little basis in logic I neither 'love' nor 'defend' land or documents, I will love and defend people though if that is 'un american',, so be it,,, I love this country and it's people (even you) enough to feel that it is worth defending with my life. I trust few of them, agree with less, but other than closing their eyes or holding their noses to vote, the majority are good honest people. Interpretation is one thing, amending is another! You have to trust the lawmakers to trust their judgement....I do neither! Statements such as yours strike at the very heart of the country and its defenders. Talk down your nose all you want from behind those rose colored glasses, your arrogance intact, while you say you don't defend the constitution. Just as the fascist ploys to deceive and confuse that your hero and his teleprompter are so good at! Race baiting, lieing, distortion, all plays to strategy in the Obozo handbook. Pick-pockets come to mind! Use one issue to conceal another more dire in nature. Someone with NO regard for the constitution IS unAmerican! It is a document signed in the blood of patriots, which is now being destroyed by those such as yourself who have NO regard for it....or the sacrifice of those who defend it .....AS IS! If it walks like a duck....... if 'respect' equals no regard your statement is relevant to my opinions,,, that you insist I apply an emotion I usually reserve for PEOPLE(defending) to a DOCUMENT, seems more personal than logical or relevant as well,,, those I love who are CURRENTLY FIGHTING in the US MILITARY are doing so because of PEOPLE, not because of what was written on a piece of paper by men who would have most likely OWNED them when they wrote it,,, as I said, I respect much of whats in it, I dont find it infallible enough to 'defend' it, however |
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