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Topic: teacher disciplined for 'Santa Claus is white' comment to bl
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Wed 12/18/13 01:48 PM



there were norse legends that coincided with the historical Greek person, Saint Nicolas

who appeared to be, at the least, not a pale man






I stand corrected,,,


If being white means you have to be pale then being black means you can't have a complexion that is closer to a brown tone.

I'm of Italian heritage. While many Italians have an olive complexion, much like many Greeks, they are still considered to be Caucasian, AKA white.

Skin tone isn't THE determining factor, if it was there would be very few people who would be considered to be black or white. SMH

If people are going to split straws they should split them all.



I Don't really care personally if he is called white or black,,

in context of this story though,, we are talking about dress up

so, people can 'look' very much alike even though they are from different races,, this saint Nicolas, greek, white, or whatever, looks very much like one of my own brothers who is nne of he above

so to singe the students choice of character out for racial reasons is quite ridiculous,,,even more so, because race isn't just about skin color ,

did he single out other students in reindeer costumes, because, well reindeers aren't humans?


Since when are people only white or black?

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/18/13 01:50 PM




there were norse legends that coincided with the historical Greek person, Saint Nicolas

who appeared to be, at the least, not a pale man






I stand corrected,,,


If being white means you have to be pale then being black means you can't have a complexion that is closer to a brown tone.

I'm of Italian heritage. While many Italians have an olive complexion, much like many Greeks, they are still considered to be Caucasian, AKA white.

Skin tone isn't THE determining factor, if it was there would be very few people who would be considered to be black or white. SMH

If people are going to split straws they should split them all.



I Don't really care personally if he is called white or black,,

in context of this story though,, we are talking about dress up

so, people can 'look' very much alike even though they are from different races,, this saint Nicolas, greek, white, or whatever, looks very much like one of my own brothers who is nne of he above

so to singe the students choice of character out for racial reasons is quite ridiculous,,,even more so, because race isn't just about skin color ,

did he single out other students in reindeer costumes, because, well reindeers aren't humans?


Since when are people only white or black?



don't recall saying they were, I just didn't choose to list every type of adjective used to describe people,,,,

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 12/18/13 02:05 PM





there were norse legends that coincided with the historical Greek person, Saint Nicolas

who appeared to be, at the least, not a pale man






I stand corrected,,,


If being white means you have to be pale then being black means you can't have a complexion that is closer to a brown tone.

I'm of Italian heritage. While many Italians have an olive complexion, much like many Greeks, they are still considered to be Caucasian, AKA white.

Skin tone isn't THE determining factor, if it was there would be very few people who would be considered to be black or white. SMH

If people are going to split straws they should split them all.



I Don't really care personally if he is called white or black,,

in context of this story though,, we are talking about dress up

so, people can 'look' very much alike even though they are from different races,, this saint Nicolas, greek, white, or whatever, looks very much like one of my own brothers who is nne of he above

so to singe the students choice of character out for racial reasons is quite ridiculous,,,even more so, because race isn't just about skin color ,


You would know the reasoning because you were there?



no,
its evident to me in the question being followed by a qualifier that 'santa was white'


are people in these threads 'THERE" when anyone they criticize in these threads makes a choice or states an opinion?

does that stop those people from commenting on what that person thought or wanted,,?

can you think of a reason for a teacher to single out a student this way?




Again, you know this without offering video or a transcript of the entire conversation what someones reasons were, or even if the student was singled out based on one shared line of that conversation?

You assume much

Smartazzjohn's photo
Wed 12/18/13 02:09 PM



there were norse legends that coincided with the historical Greek person, Saint Nicolas

who appeared to be, at the least, not a pale man






I stand corrected,,,


If being white means you have to be pale then being black means you can't have a complexion that is closer to a brown tone.

I'm of Italian heritage. While many Italians have an olive complexion, much like many Greeks, they are still considered to be Caucasian, AKA white.

Skin tone isn't THE determining factor, if it was there would be very few people who would be considered to be black or white. SMH

If people are going to split straws they should split them all.



I Don't really care personally if he is called white or black,,

in context of this story though,, we are talking about dress up

so, people can 'look' very much alike even though they are from different races,, this saint Nicolas, greek, white, or whatever, looks very much like one of my own brothers who is nne of he above

so to singe the students choice of character out for racial reasons is quite ridiculous,,,even more so, because race isn't just about skin color ,

did he single out other students in reindeer costumes, because, well reindeers aren't humans?


Why didn't just "stand corrected" again? My point didn't fit a narrative you wanted or liked did it? laugh


msharmony's photo
Wed 12/18/13 02:52 PM






there were norse legends that coincided with the historical Greek person, Saint Nicolas

who appeared to be, at the least, not a pale man






I stand corrected,,,


If being white means you have to be pale then being black means you can't have a complexion that is closer to a brown tone.

I'm of Italian heritage. While many Italians have an olive complexion, much like many Greeks, they are still considered to be Caucasian, AKA white.

Skin tone isn't THE determining factor, if it was there would be very few people who would be considered to be black or white. SMH

If people are going to split straws they should split them all.



I Don't really care personally if he is called white or black,,

in context of this story though,, we are talking about dress up

so, people can 'look' very much alike even though they are from different races,, this saint Nicolas, greek, white, or whatever, looks very much like one of my own brothers who is nne of he above

so to singe the students choice of character out for racial reasons is quite ridiculous,,,even more so, because race isn't just about skin color ,


You would know the reasoning because you were there?



no,
its evident to me in the question being followed by a qualifier that 'santa was white'


are people in these threads 'THERE" when anyone they criticize in these threads makes a choice or states an opinion?

does that stop those people from commenting on what that person thought or wanted,,?

can you think of a reason for a teacher to single out a student this way?




Again, you know this without offering video or a transcript of the entire conversation what someones reasons were, or even if the student was singled out based on one shared line of that conversation?

You assume much



really? the opinions in these threads all come with transcripts?

give me a break,,


IM commenting on the information given

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/18/13 02:54 PM




there were norse legends that coincided with the historical Greek person, Saint Nicolas

who appeared to be, at the least, not a pale man






I stand corrected,,,


If being white means you have to be pale then being black means you can't have a complexion that is closer to a brown tone.

I'm of Italian heritage. While many Italians have an olive complexion, much like many Greeks, they are still considered to be Caucasian, AKA white.

Skin tone isn't THE determining factor, if it was there would be very few people who would be considered to be black or white. SMH

If people are going to split straws they should split them all.



I Don't really care personally if he is called white or black,,

in context of this story though,, we are talking about dress up

so, people can 'look' very much alike even though they are from different races,, this saint Nicolas, greek, white, or whatever, looks very much like one of my own brothers who is nne of he above

so to singe the students choice of character out for racial reasons is quite ridiculous,,,even more so, because race isn't just about skin color ,

did he single out other students in reindeer costumes, because, well reindeers aren't humans?


Why didn't just "stand corrected" again? My point didn't fit a narrative you wanted or liked did it? laugh





lol,,,,

so, being that you responded to my 'stand corrected' post,, did my narrative not fit one YOU liked?


lol,,,





Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 12/18/13 04:14 PM







there were norse legends that coincided with the historical Greek person, Saint Nicolas

who appeared to be, at the least, not a pale man






I stand corrected,,,


If being white means you have to be pale then being black means you can't have a complexion that is closer to a brown tone.

I'm of Italian heritage. While many Italians have an olive complexion, much like many Greeks, they are still considered to be Caucasian, AKA white.

Skin tone isn't THE determining factor, if it was there would be very few people who would be considered to be black or white. SMH

If people are going to split straws they should split them all.



I Don't really care personally if he is called white or black,,

in context of this story though,, we are talking about dress up

so, people can 'look' very much alike even though they are from different races,, this saint Nicolas, greek, white, or whatever, looks very much like one of my own brothers who is nne of he above

so to singe the students choice of character out for racial reasons is quite ridiculous,,,even more so, because race isn't just about skin color ,


You would know the reasoning because you were there?



no,
its evident to me in the question being followed by a qualifier that 'santa was white'


are people in these threads 'THERE" when anyone they criticize in these threads makes a choice or states an opinion?

does that stop those people from commenting on what that person thought or wanted,,?

can you think of a reason for a teacher to single out a student this way?




Again, you know this without offering video or a transcript of the entire conversation what someones reasons were, or even if the student was singled out based on one shared line of that conversation?

You assume much



really? the opinions in these threads all come with transcripts?

give me a break,,


IM commenting on the information given


Really? So the student WAS singled out, and the teacher WAS out of line and based on one sentence you know this, but your opinion is unassuming?

As far as other posts coming with transcripts.... video, news links and recorded text are generally offered in posts, and even if it is opinion backing another opinion, there is something to base a comment on.

Your assumptions as to any part of this thread, on a teachers guilt or innocence, are baseless and bias because nothing was offered to base it on other than that one line of 3rd party text.

Because you think it, does not make it so, no matter how easy it may be assume.

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/18/13 04:25 PM
Christopher, arrived wearing a Santa hat and beard, and the teacher asked the boy: "Don't you know Santa Clause is white? Why are you wearing that?"



argue it all you like,,,there was a question asked of an INDVIDUAL STUDENT,, as opposed to a statement made to the class

thus,,SINGLED OUT

my opinion is my opinion, any dolt can comb the internet to show that someone else agrees, I have no intention of doing so any time I wish to share my opinion,,,


my opinion is my opinion, free for others to take or leave,,, just like yours and EVERYONE who posts an opinion

all opinions are assumptions or they would be called fact


should be obvious to one who so regulary declare their opinion of the guilt or innocence of public figures

oldhippie1952's photo
Wed 12/18/13 04:54 PM
IMO Santa Claus can be whatever color he needs to be at the moment.

msharmony's photo
Wed 12/18/13 05:13 PM

IMO Santa Claus can be whatever color he needs to be at the moment.


another awesome standard,,,drinker

oldhippie1952's photo
Wed 12/18/13 05:17 PM


IMO Santa Claus can be whatever color he needs to be at the moment.


another awesome standard,,,drinker



Well I think (opinion) it is the only way to explain to children Santa Clauses of different colors.

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