Topic: CHRISTMAS
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Wed 12/25/13 01:47 PM
Is Christmas mentioned in the Bible?

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Wed 12/25/13 06:05 PM

Is Christmas mentioned in the Bible?


no. Christmas is actually a catholic term meaning "Christ Mass"


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Wed 12/25/13 07:10 PM
Using bible stories scholars and theologians cannot even be certain of the YEAR in which Jesus was born, let alone the day. It had to be before 4 BC / BCE if Herod the Great was "Client King of Judea" for Rome (as told in stories) because that is the year he died. The day was not likely to have been during winter if "shepherds tended their flocks in fields". The place may have been Bethlehem (to "fulfill prophesy") or perhaps Nazareth (which seems more likely).

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Wed 12/25/13 11:13 PM

Using bible stories scholars and theologians cannot even be certain of the YEAR in which Jesus was born, let alone the day. It had to be before 4 BC / BCE if Herod the Great was "Client King of Judea" for Rome (as told in stories) because that is the year he died. The day was not likely to have been during winter if "shepherds tended their flocks in fields". The place may have been Bethlehem (to "fulfill prophesy") or perhaps Nazareth (which seems more likely).


The year is harder to know than the day. You can figure the day by the angel Gabriels visit to Yahshua's cousin Zecharias. His course for his family is recorded in the OT when they tended to the temple each year.

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Sat 12/28/13 08:10 PM
You can figure the day by the angel Gabriels visit to Yahshua's cousin Zecharias.


Okay, assuming provisionally that an "angel visit" occurred, what is the date of birth?

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Sat 12/28/13 10:40 PM

You can figure the day by the angel Gabriels visit to Yahshua's cousin Zecharias.


Okay, assuming provisionally that an "angel visit" occurred, what is the date of birth?


By this it is in early fall. This is when the fall feasts take place. The biblical calander starts in the spring 1 abib. mean grean ears ( Barley) starts the new year after green ears are seen in Israel the next New Moon sighting. ( not astronomical) is the beginning of the year which we know leads to Passover.

each New Moon is the beginning of a new Months. Months were mainly just 1 -12 without names even though we do see some named.



Anyway through the courses this would bring Zecharias family course to the 7th month.

Now the Julian date is different every year. The actual seasons we have our determined by the New Moon. The calander is very accurate.

The New Moon as you know is sighted at dusk just as a day begins at dusk. The 7th month New Moon is a High Day. Holy Day Sabbath.

Yahshua's birth we know several things. It was a very Holy Day. We also know the shepards in the fields saw Angels Blowing Trumpets.
Another thing we know is it was said on this day a KING was Born.

This makes since that Trumpets are Blown announcing the coming of a King. Revelations even attest to this.


The New Moon of the 7th month we are commanded when we see it to Blow up the Trumpets. This day is also called the Feast of Trumpets.

IMO Yahshua was Born on a Day announcing a King Was here and the Angels Blowing the Trumpets was this sign.

IMO He was born on the 1st day of the 7th month between 7bc and 4 bc.In 4bc their was a very bright star reported that even astromoners have found the last time this star was in say an alignment for it to shine so brightly in the sky was april 4 bc. sounds reasonable for the year to me

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Sun 12/29/13 08:23 AM

Using bible stories scholars and theologians cannot even be certain of the YEAR in which Jesus was born, let alone the day. It had to be before 4 BC / BCE if Herod the Great was "Client King of Judea" for Rome (as told in stories) because that is the year he died. The day was not likely to have been during winter if "shepherds tended their flocks in fields". The place may have been Bethlehem (to "fulfill prophesy") or perhaps Nazareth (which seems more likely).


Great post.

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Sun 12/29/13 08:28 AM


You can figure the day by the angel Gabriels visit to Yahshua's cousin Zecharias.


Okay, assuming provisionally that an "angel visit" occurred, what is the date of birth?


By this it is in early fall. This is when the fall feasts take place. The biblical calander starts in the spring 1 abib. mean grean ears ( Barley) starts the new year after green ears are seen in Israel the next New Moon sighting. ( not astronomical) is the beginning of the year which we know leads to Passover.

each New Moon is the beginning of a new Months. Months were mainly just 1 -12 without names even though we do see some named.



Anyway through the courses this would bring Zecharias family course to the 7th month.

Now the Julian date is different every year. The actual seasons we have our determined by the New Moon. The calander is very accurate.

The New Moon as you know is sighted at dusk just as a day begins at dusk. The 7th month New Moon is a High Day. Holy Day Sabbath.

Yahshua's birth we know several things. It was a very Holy Day. We also know the shepards in the fields saw Angels Blowing Trumpets.
Another thing we know is it was said on this day a KING was Born.

This makes since that Trumpets are Blown announcing the coming of a King. Revelations even attest to this.


The New Moon of the 7th month we are commanded when we see it to Blow up the Trumpets. This day is also called the Feast of Trumpets.

IMO Yahshua was Born on a Day announcing a King Was here and the Angels Blowing the Trumpets was this sign.

IMO He was born on the 1st day of the 7th month between 7bc and 4 bc.In 4bc their was a very bright star reported that even astromoners have found the last time this star was in say an alignment for it to shine so brightly in the sky was april 4 bc. sounds reasonable for the year to me


Only one problem that I see. We are not certain what the star actually was.

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Sun 12/29/13 08:39 AM

Is Christmas mentioned in the Bible?


no, and independence day is not mentioned in the constitution either

but brits did gain independence at some point

and jesus was born,,

JohnDavidDavid's photo
Sun 12/29/13 11:53 AM
and jesus was born,,

In all probability a number of Jewish males named Jesus were born about two thousand years ago. One of them, according to folk tales, became a preacher at about age thirty. Little or nothing is known to scholars and theologians about his life before taking up preaching.

It is said that he campaigned against Jewish Temple priests and their excesses and against Roman rule over Judea. He did not last long (perhaps three years) before being executed for sedition. Followers deified him and started a new religion in competition with Judaism and polytheism.

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Sun 12/29/13 08:43 PM



You can figure the day by the angel Gabriels visit to Yahshua's cousin Zecharias.


Okay, assuming provisionally that an "angel visit" occurred, what is the date of birth?


By this it is in early fall. This is when the fall feasts take place. The biblical calander starts in the spring 1 abib. mean grean ears ( Barley) starts the new year after green ears are seen in Israel the next New Moon sighting. ( not astronomical) is the beginning of the year which we know leads to Passover.

each New Moon is the beginning of a new Months. Months were mainly just 1 -12 without names even though we do see some named.



Anyway through the courses this would bring Zecharias family course to the 7th month.

Now the Julian date is different every year. The actual seasons we have our determined by the New Moon. The calander is very accurate.

The New Moon as you know is sighted at dusk just as a day begins at dusk. The 7th month New Moon is a High Day. Holy Day Sabbath.

Yahshua's birth we know several things. It was a very Holy Day. We also know the shepards in the fields saw Angels Blowing Trumpets.
Another thing we know is it was said on this day a KING was Born.

This makes since that Trumpets are Blown announcing the coming of a King. Revelations even attest to this.


The New Moon of the 7th month we are commanded when we see it to Blow up the Trumpets. This day is also called the Feast of Trumpets.

IMO Yahshua was Born on a Day announcing a King Was here and the Angels Blowing the Trumpets was this sign.

IMO He was born on the 1st day of the 7th month between 7bc and 4 bc.In 4bc their was a very bright star reported that even astromoners have found the last time this star was in say an alignment for it to shine so brightly in the sky was april 4 bc. sounds reasonable for the year to me


Only one problem that I see. We are not certain what the star actually was.


No the Star the Magi saw they believe they know what star that was and it was closest to earth by the calculations in april 4 bc. it would of been a bright star appearing in the sky very unusuaul

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Sun 12/29/13 09:38 PM

and jesus was born,,

In all probability a number of Jewish males named Jesus were born about two thousand years ago. One of them, according to folk tales, became a preacher at about age thirty. Little or nothing is known to scholars and theologians about his life before taking up preaching.

It is said that he campaigned against Jewish Temple priests and their excesses and against Roman rule over Judea. He did not last long (perhaps three years) before being executed for sedition. Followers deified him and started a new religion in competition with Judaism and polytheism.


several things about the faith while Yahshua was on earth.

1st Jesus is a made up name that can not be traced. Yahshua can.

2nd yes even Yahshua the son of NUN had the same name. very important his name and what he did.


3.It is not a folk tale why Yahshua started his ministry at age 30. everything he did he did for a purpose.

In The Law and He kept it Perfectly. (what made him the Lamb of Yahweh. without spot.)

In the Levitical priesthood at age 30 is when males began taking care of the duties of the Priesthood.

We know Yahshua came to bring the Mezedek Priesthood back that was in the time of existence at the time of Abraham.

The 1st thing Yahshua did was to fulfill the Prophecy of Repentence that John his cousin was preaching.

Him coming up and the Bird of Shalom lights on him as the Spirit of Yahweh is fully offered to him as Yahweh said This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased.

He started his ministry by giving us the example that every New Believer would enter into the Covenant of Life.

We still today are Baptised and then Hands laid on us by the Elders praying for the Holy Spirit to enter this new born child of Yahweh.

Yahshua had Hands laid on him by the Dove of Peace on his life and the Blessings of his Father the Holy Spirit entering him.

Then the temptation for 40 days all of this and example and a warning to new believer Satan will send Demons to try and make you fall just as satan tried with Yahshua. Be Strong and of Good Cheer.

4.. Yahshua never campaigned against the Roman Leadership. They found him a very reasonable guy.

5 .. The campaign was from the High Priests and Rabbi's who could not trick him and he spoke very openly about their corruptness.

The people were following him in masses as they had never seen before. He was a threat. The real murderer was The High Priest who rent his clothes and said this man deserves death.
without his blessings Yahshua would not of been killed.

Yahshua showed great knowledge at age 12 where a boy becomes a man and can sit in with the Elders and ask questions but instead they were amazed at his knowledge. Before age 12 when he went to egypt we do not know but after his birth basically what he did until age 12. he worked with his father learning the torah and hard work.

Their are books who show him having mystical powers. Like bringing a dove back to life and bringing a child he pushed off something and he died and they say he brought his schoolmate of like 5 back to life. This does not hold true with Biblical history and Yahweh is not above his own law. At 12 you come into manhood and prepare for life.

These powers are not needed before age 12.

you are talking about mysticism which is a made up book because it does not agree with the Torah.

6) Yes Yahshua run the money changers out from in front of the Temple possibly inside too.

He said My Fathers House is a House of Prayer and u have made it a Den of Thieves. Only time Yahshua gets upset. Protecting what was Holy.

Yahshua's Messiahship. A religion that is not forced but criticized through the ages and more and more as time moves on.Proves that several Billion people have chosen Yahshua as Messiah as the 1st Born of the Dead. The mear belief of this magnitude without corercion to believe or else. ( Hell fire ministries are a disgrace to the word they are a fearful way of Life)

But to the Billions who do believe is a court of fact it is true. People have not stayed for no reason. many see miracles happen even when they do not deserve it that just sits them back in their chair and say WOW. Yahweh is AWW inspiring and real


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Tue 12/31/13 02:52 AM


Is Christmas mentioned in the Bible?


no, and independence day is not mentioned in the constitution either

but brits did gain independence at some point

and jesus was born,,

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