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Topic: Murders drop in five largest cities,,,
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Thu 01/02/14 08:40 AM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 01/02/14 08:40 AM



CHICAGO—The number of homicides fell sharply in several of the nation's largest cities in 2013, with both New York and Chicago dropping to levels not seen since the 1960s.

New York City had 333 homicides in 2013, a 20% drop from the previous year and the lowest number since the New York Police Department began keeping records in the early 1960s. There were 419 homicides in 2012 and 649 in 2001, the year before former Mayor Michael Bloomberg took office.

Murders reached their peak in the nation's largest city in 1990, when there were 2,262, but went on a marked declined after the city hired thousands of new police officers. A data-driven, quality-of-life policing strategy is also given some credit for the turnaround

READ MORE AT:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303640604579294961439965026

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Thu 01/02/14 08:49 AM




CHICAGO—The number of homicides fell sharply in several of the nation's largest cities in 2013, with both New York and Chicago dropping to levels not seen since the 1960s.

New York City had 333 homicides in 2013, a 20% drop from the previous year and the lowest number since the New York Police Department began keeping records in the early 1960s. There were 419 homicides in 2012 and 649 in 2001, the year before former Mayor Michael Bloomberg took office.

Murders reached their peak in the nation's largest city in 1990, when there were 2,262, but went on a marked declined after the city hired thousands of new police officers. A data-driven, quality-of-life policing strategy is also given some credit for the turnaround

READ MORE AT:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303640604579294961439965026



Seems to be a trend in all large cities. Maybe criminals are moving t the suburbs.

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Thu 01/02/14 08:51 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 01/02/14 08:56 AM




CHICAGO—The number of homicides fell sharply in several of the nation's largest cities in 2013, with both New York and Chicago dropping to levels not seen since the 1960s.

New York City had 333 homicides in 2013, a 20% drop from the previous year and the lowest number since the New York Police Department began keeping records in the early 1960s. There were 419 homicides in 2012 and 649 in 2001, the year before former Mayor Michael Bloomberg took office.

Murders reached their peak in the nation's largest city in 1990, when there were 2,262, but went on a marked declined after the city hired thousands of new police officers. A data-driven, quality-of-life policing strategy is also given some credit for the turnaround

READ MORE AT:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303640604579294961439965026


Funny how that happens when people choose not to leave their homes from fear of becoming victims to obscene laws that violate their Constitutional rights by a gestopo type police force that "stops and frisks" them for simply doing so, and under those same laws doesn't allow them the ability to protect/defend themselves in one of the highest crime rate cities in the country when they do.

So much for the "pursuit of happiness" or the right to feel "secure in your persons, houses, papers, and effects".... our rights in general

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Thu 01/02/14 09:04 AM





CHICAGO—The number of homicides fell sharply in several of the nation's largest cities in 2013, with both New York and Chicago dropping to levels not seen since the 1960s.

New York City had 333 homicides in 2013, a 20% drop from the previous year and the lowest number since the New York Police Department began keeping records in the early 1960s. There were 419 homicides in 2012 and 649 in 2001, the year before former Mayor Michael Bloomberg took office.

Murders reached their peak in the nation's largest city in 1990, when there were 2,262, but went on a marked declined after the city hired thousands of new police officers. A data-driven, quality-of-life policing strategy is also given some credit for the turnaround

READ MORE AT:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303640604579294961439965026



Seems to be a trend in all large cities. Maybe criminals are moving t the suburbs.



most 'trends' ebb and flow, but its still something positive to read about,,

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Thu 01/02/14 09:05 AM





CHICAGO—The number of homicides fell sharply in several of the nation's largest cities in 2013, with both New York and Chicago dropping to levels not seen since the 1960s.

New York City had 333 homicides in 2013, a 20% drop from the previous year and the lowest number since the New York Police Department began keeping records in the early 1960s. There were 419 homicides in 2012 and 649 in 2001, the year before former Mayor Michael Bloomberg took office.

Murders reached their peak in the nation's largest city in 1990, when there were 2,262, but went on a marked declined after the city hired thousands of new police officers. A data-driven, quality-of-life policing strategy is also given some credit for the turnaround

READ MORE AT:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303640604579294961439965026


Funny how that happens when people choose not to leave their homes from fear of becoming victims to obscene laws that violate their Constitutional rights by a gestopo type police force that "stops and frisks" them for simply doing so, and under those same laws doesn't allow them the ability to protect/defend themselves in one of the highest crime rate cities in the country when they do.

So much for the "pursuit of happiness" or the right to feel "secure in your persons, houses, papers, and effects".... our rights in general


:thumbsup:

msharmony's photo
Thu 01/02/14 09:07 AM
laugh laugh laugh

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 01/02/14 09:10 AM

laugh laugh laugh



msharmony's photo
Thu 01/02/14 09:16 AM
haaa,, NOW we aknowledge the significance of being enslaved,,

lollaugh laugh laugh laugh


I guess whatever emphasizes a point,,,

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Thu 01/02/14 09:33 AM

haaa,, NOW we aknowledge the significance of being enslaved,,

lollaugh laugh laugh laugh


I guess whatever emphasizes a point,,,


No, we choose not to live in the past but instead remember it to address the fact that history repeats itself.... only the blind or misguided can't see the difference

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Thu 01/02/14 09:39 AM


haaa,, NOW we aknowledge the significance of being enslaved,,

lollaugh laugh laugh laugh


I guess whatever emphasizes a point,,,


No, we choose not to live in the past but instead remember it to address the fact that history repeats itself.... only the blind or misguided can't see the difference


it not possible to 'live in the past' . its a clich� used when people don't approve of how one remembers it or shares it or lets it affect their lives


this thread was about what I thought was a good thing,, decreasing homicide,, and even it gets turned into a platform about how terrible government is and how divine the second amendment is

,,,,,I give,,, IM outnumbered and obviously not gonna get any actual discussion about what I posted other than NEGATIVITY And FEAR TACTIC


,,, Im not interested in it, this year IM greatly diminishing the NEGATIVE nonsense,,,

reality and honest/balanced discussion are a couple things that just aint gonna happen,, apparently

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Thu 01/02/14 10:42 AM



haaa,, NOW we aknowledge the significance of being enslaved,,

lollaugh laugh laugh laugh


I guess whatever emphasizes a point,,,


No, we choose not to live in the past but instead remember it to address the fact that history repeats itself.... only the blind or misguided can't see the difference


it not possible to 'live in the past' . its a clich� used when people don't approve of how one remembers it or shares it or lets it affect their lives


this thread was about what I thought was a good thing,, decreasing homicide,, and even it gets turned into a platform about how terrible government is and how divine the second amendment is

,,,,,I give,,, IM outnumbered and obviously not gonna get any actual discussion about what I posted other than NEGATIVITY And FEAR TACTIC


,,, Im not interested in it, this year IM greatly diminishing the NEGATIVE nonsense,,,

reality and honest/balanced discussion are a couple things that just aint gonna happen,, apparently


You won't get anything you consider honest or balanced from your posts since most of your views are anti-Constitution and go against the grain of most logical people...... as the reaction they get should, and apparently have, revealed..... your "negativity"

But of course, it is the majority here (in regards to your posts) that is mistaken, as you so clearly state, no matter how much they may disagree with each other in general usually.

And that "fear tactic"..... it seems most others realize reality as they view the day they live in, and the politics and politicians creating, not helping, the problem.


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Thu 01/02/14 10:57 AM
Edited by msharmony on Thu 01/02/14 10:58 AM
what was 'anti constitution' about a post of murder rates declining?

laugh laugh

and there are many threads here with the usual four or five anti government/anti Obama cheerleaders hijacking it for their views

that's fine

a majority of four or five isn't really indicative of being correct or wrong

in a room f five or six supremacists the one freedom fighter is still probably RIGHT and LOGICAL and BALANCED

no problem not being their kind of 'right'...whoa


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Thu 01/02/14 12:29 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 01/02/14 12:49 PM

what was 'anti constitution' about a post of murder rates declining?

laugh laugh

and there are many threads here with the usual four or five anti government/anti Obama cheerleaders hijacking it for their views

that's fine

a majority of four or five isn't really indicative of being correct or wrong

in a room f five or six supremacists the one freedom fighter is still probably RIGHT and LOGICAL and BALANCED

no problem not being their kind of 'right'...whoa




These cities that your post refers to have the most anti-Constitutional mayors known to man. They have restricted citizen rights...PERIOD. They have manipulated the press, failed to pay taxes, supported bad law and policy, and covered up any number of other crimes they themselves have committed with their wealth and influence.

Yet, you want us to believe figures they wish to post showing the "safety" under their imperial reign laugh with no mention of the rights they have violated, the wrongful convictions, the bribery they are noted for, and they are Demoncraps campaigning for re-election (other than Doomberg) at a time when the DNC is even at odds with itself, and leaving a bad taste in the mouth of all Americans over the scandals and the Obozocare fiasco.

And when you are a single voice of opinion, in a pool of public opinion, wrong is just wrong, and far from anything resembling right or reason.

Doomberg stated just a month or so ago that he was investing up to $250M to sway public opinion on gun control..... you don't think the press doesn't want their part of that?

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Thu 01/02/14 02:16 PM
of course, a decrease in crime is bad news if government is in anyway involved


whoa whoa

guess people might get more excited if it was someplace like TEXAS announcing that it had a crime decrease shortly after some law to allow its badass citizens to shoot to kill anyone entering their building or grabbing their arms,,,,

whoa whoa



Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 01/02/14 02:48 PM

of course, a decrease in crime is bad news if government is in anyway involved


whoa whoa

guess people might get more excited if it was someplace like TEXAS announcing that it had a crime decrease shortly after some law to allow its badass citizens to shoot to kill anyone entering their building or grabbing their arms,,,,

whoa whoa





Statistics from an independent and/or reputable source to back up your/their "claim"...other than the WSJ....say the FBI.... might make it a little more believable, but anything coming from the WSJ requires a little further research especially approaching election time.

And people defending their rights is NEVER a bad thing, others assuming that to be a bad act is concern for all of us.

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Thu 01/02/14 03:01 PM
CHL and citizens packin might have something to do with lower crime rates too.smile2

msharmony's photo
Thu 01/02/14 03:08 PM
there are probably quite a few factors

point is, its good news,,,

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Sat 01/04/14 07:14 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Sat 01/04/14 07:14 AM

Detroit Police Chief calls for more armed citizens

Detroit's police chief has caused a stir by calling for private citizens to be armed. Chief James Craig stated on Thursday that armed citizens deter crime and called for more law-abiding citizens to exercise their Second Amendment Rights.

Saddled with debt, poverty, and high crime rates, Detroit is a city on the verge of collapse. As its population continues its sharp decline, capital is also drained from the city. Last year it became the first major US municipality to declare bankruptcy. As poverty increases, crime inevitably rises.

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/detroit-police-chief-calls-armed-citizens/#ixzz2pMB4verF

Quinnipiac Study: Concealed Carry Results in Fewer Murders

"These results suggest that restrictive concealed weapons laws may cause an increase in gun-related murders at the state level."

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/quinnipiac-study-concealed-carry-results-fewer-murders

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Sat 01/04/14 10:42 AM
it would be interesting to look at what these five cities have in common (hint: I'm doubting its citizens suddenly became more armed, but who knows)

that could be contributing to the lowering rates and see if other cities can replicate it,,,

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Sat 01/04/14 02:31 PM

it would be interesting to look at what these five cities have in common (hint: I'm doubting its citizens suddenly became more armed, but who knows)

that could be contributing to the lowering rates and see if other cities can replicate it,,,



"it would be interesting to look at what these five cities have in common"

I would guess that the possible victims are leaving as fast as they can. JMHO.

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