Topic: rock groups
davadrisc's photo
Tue 01/28/14 07:55 PM
who is the best band iron maiden or metallica and why

niteonfire's photo
Tue 01/28/14 08:02 PM
Edited by niteonfire on Tue 01/28/14 08:04 PM
Metallica...cause I think I want to listen to enter the sandman rite now...winking Yep! thats why...shades

Ph0nyx's photo
Tue 01/28/14 09:50 PM
Wow, really?

Iron Maiden
1) They're actually a metal band, selloutica is selloutica (just a rock band really)
2) Black Metal, Death Metal, Doom Metal, and Thrash Metal genre bands credit them as an influence. (A band truly revered by other bands.)
3) Bruce is a way better lead singer than james ever could be (Operatics vs. grunty moans?)
4) Musicianship on Maiden has consistently been better (Nicko can play a double bass functionally for longer than 10seconds.)
5) Lyrical content in Iron Maiden is way more thoughtful in form and flow (They use bigger words too!)
6) Iron Maiden doesn't destroy other bands to replace their line ups (Selloutica killed suicidal tendencies and their side project infectious grooves)
7) Flight 666 wasn't a virtual episode of the real world like "some kind of pap smear" was.
8) Iron Maiden didn't sue napster for "their money". (Selloutica should of admitted their album sales money was low because their because their fans were probably leaving due to "poor everything" form selloutica's output.)
9) You can listen to a whole Iron Maiden album and not say "Wow, they sold out so badly..." as a natural response.
10) You don't look like you lack taste in music when you wear an Iron Maiden shirt. (I actually had Phish heads in a Phish lot upping Maiden to my face for walking in with a Maiden shirt.)
11) Iron Maiden hasn't helped to dumb down the metal genre and enabled shitty new rock bands to be labeled as "metal" for sales. (Note: Cock rock was bad enough to skew the music but selloutica pretty much helped with the "repackage for sales" as their most noticeable contribution to metal.)
12) It's harder to grow past listening to Iron Maiden after 8th grade then it is to listen to selloutica past 8th grade
13) Iron Maiden has tours specifically to play their old songs while selloutica does shitty song medleys for their old material.
14) Maiden isn't too crazy big on making themselves look bigger than they are, they earned their rep. Selloutica is crazy about making themselves look big and have also earned their rep... (As a sold out rock band.)
15) Maiden doesn't care about the mainstream award shows, selloutica does.
16) I can play Iron Maiden and legitimately call it music. I can play selloutica and legitimately call it "for sale".
17) Iron Maiden has had a couple bad albums, selloutica has had a couple bad decades of material.
Bonus:
Iron Maiden has Eddie as a mascot. Selloutica has James & Lars as mascots. Iron Maiden has totally won at having a real mascot.

Why selloutica is overrated/why the metal community should be asking them to change their name and call them a rock band...
1) Actual thrash metal bands out around the time were waaaaay better and actually played faster (Examples: Venom, Kreator, Sodom, Testament, Tankard, Hirax, Death Angel, Voi Vod, NME to name a few.)
2) 2 They've been a rock band since the black album but more or less it was solidified on (B)Load. Since then it's been a noticeable **** ride of quality and content.
3) They worry about sounding trendy and current with their writing
4) Most actual metal bands can easily outplay, outwrite and outpreform sellouticia
5) Real metal bands have drummers that can play their full drum kits, guitarists who actually write music that's intricate and they can usually put more lyrics in before a chorus without using "aaaayyyy yooooohhhh" for filler space.
5b) They did their "orchestral album" and made the mistake of having the orchestra play all their "hard parts" for them.
6) Actual metal has easily moved on without them (Those bands I listed that were waaaay better are also still waaaaay better)
7) Metal bands usually try to up their preformance from their last album... Selloutica sort of just talks up their new albums but keeps dumbing it down for their music. (I think they learned that from watching Korn.)
8) Real metal bands don't exactly have "stylists" , "image consultants" and aren't usually scheduled to play on the Mtv Music awards. (They also don't win awards from Mtv.)
9) They can have an album with Jay-Z, Chris Brown, Lil Wayne, Pitbull, Madonna, Miley Cyrus, Kylie Minogue, Pink, Rhianna, M.C. Hammer, Icona Pop, Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Justin Bieber, the Backstreet Boys, and/or the guy from match box 20 (Rob Thomas... I think his name is?) on it and it wouldn't seem out of place for how they've been going. (Real metal bands can't do that without being called "sell outs" and they'd be losing their fans.)
10) They've been trying too hard to look profound lately... Making Lou Reed have a shitty album before he died, playing their whole "put album title that they turned their back on here" in it's entirety tonight (Floyd and the Who did that notably so this rips off their show events to try to sell "much lesser material that they clearly wrote themselves" as "amazing"), and trying to ride on being the "American Big 4" (Or as I like to put them, the "US Trash Metal Big 4". All of whom have either sold out or gone to absolute **** compared to the Teutonic Big 4: Sodom, Tankard, Kreator and Destruction)... So they're deal with looking profound is just repackaging things other people did. It's not like they had (much needed!) line up changes (calling it quits would be the best one) or like the music got better (or went back to actual metal) in some way.

Bonus:
Have you noticed how Nickleback (the band made entirely of failed Bryan Adams clones)looks like they're the "younger kid brother band" to selloutica now?
&
When are Kirk and Lars going to get married?
(It's legal to do that in the states now.)

DonnyRover's photo
Wed 01/29/14 03:24 AM
Edited by DonnyRover on Wed 01/29/14 03:52 AM
I agree that Metallica have sold out but that's what capitalism is all about Im afraid. As for Iron Maiden I saw them at Sheffield City Hall in 1983, they were to put it bluntly boring. I think we know where Spinal Tap got their ideas from. I got Sepulturas's latest offering yesterday, now that's what you call rock! Same goes for Slayer and Satirycon!!

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davadrisc's photo
Wed 01/29/14 03:31 AM
lmfao,

DonnyRover's photo
Wed 01/29/14 03:50 AM
As for the big 4 I would put them in this order but this is only my humble opinion.
1 Slayer
2 Megadeth
3 Anthrax
4 Metallica
Mater of puppets is class. Death Magnetic? Oh Dear!