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| Topic: Should we build slave labour camps? | |
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Apparently our prisons are over crowded. I guess people are not too fussed about going to prison anymore then. So I was thinking that maybe we should do what the Russians did by sending them all to a place far away like Siberia. That way they won't be a burden on the tax payer because they will be made to work for their grub etc. Redmist for once I sort of agree with you. Not sure about the camp thing but we need to do something. To often we excuse thoughs who build their own lives on the misery of others. |
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I may finally agree with you. Incarceration for nonviolent offenses is both an unnecessary financial drain and a stigmata that proliferates the recidivism rates. Jails and prisons are not reformatories, they are crime colleges. The statutes and sentencing guidelines need reviewed and revised where appropriate. And just what would you be agreeing with? That it is ok to violate anothers' rights so long as the violator feels they are entitled. Or is it ok to violate those rights if the violation is only a short period of slavery? Or is it that you little understand what a right is? To the originator of this topic: Why would it be necessary to build "slave labour camps"? Prisons already exist and they are overflowing with available manpower. But what are they to do? Build pyramids? One other thing bears consideration. If you build a substantial industry centered on the use of slave labor you become heavily invested in the existence of crime in order to maintain your labor force. One reason the south opposed abolition is because of heavy investment in slave labor centered industries. Ending slavery meant being forced to pay wages or buy and maintain machinery. And tractors don't breed. They went to war to defend their livelihood. Doesn't it stand to reason that a state with the power to determine what constitutes a criminal act and force its will on the people would exert equal determination in preserving their profit making? Maybe you get the knock on your door one morning and are taken to the labor camp because you haven't paid your parking fines and a worker is needed on the assembly line. Just as hiring more and more police officers, this does nothing to reduce crime. In fact, it encourages proliferation. First, your understanding of the South and abolition is flawed. The issue of slavery had already been resolved and was in the process of ending. Slavery was not the issue of the Civil War. Otherwise you seem to understand the issue and the violation of rights, so how can you make the statement in the first section? Depends on which piece of historical literature you wish to lend more credence to. While the issue may have been decided by government, it was not accepted by those who had great financial stakes in slavery. It is debatable at best. Or, perhaps, I am plain old incorrect. Regardless, my point is that slavery is either wrong or it is not. Doesn't matter if it is utilized by a business or a government. And if you're wealth is derived from free labor you will do everything in your power to preserve that labor pool. |
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Depends on which piece of historical literature you wish to lend more credence to. While the issue may have been decided by government, it was not accepted by those who had great financial stakes in slavery. It is debatable at best. Or, perhaps, I am plain old incorrect. Regardless, my point is that slavery is either wrong or it is not. Doesn't matter if it is utilized by a business or a government. And if you're wealth is derived from free labor you will do everything in your power to preserve that labor pool. Slavery was always wrong and the founders knew that hence the Declaration of Independence declaration that all men were created equal. But the laws of the states were a major issue that took time to resolve. However, the Civil War has a lot in common with the topic of the OP. Kiev could be related to the North and Crimea would be related to the South. And like in the Ukraine, the North was bullying the South and they decided to leave, secede from the Union which they let known before Lincoln was elected but Lincoln, a Republican mind you, was the last straw. But like the Ukraine and the false flag rebellion, South Carolina demanded the Federal troops leave their soil. But still that was not the start, the start was when the South told the Union, no taxes. That did it, the Fort Sumter incident. Dang, our government has been naughty for so long. But the main difference was that Lincoln hated the banks and loved the corporations. Now Odumbo loves both. |
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