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Why aren't they already being prosecuted BEFORE they get pregnant or whenever their illegal activity occurs?
I don't understand this question. How can someone be treated if they haven't been busted with possession or dealing yet? |
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Drugs can easily be added to the list of what to look for during routine blood work. I would imagine, women found with drugs in thier system would be reported already. exactly thank you far better to intervene before a pregnancy advances or even occurs....for those who seek prenatal care that is....many do not(who are in that frame of mind) |
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Why aren't they already being prosecuted BEFORE they get pregnant or whenever their illegal activity occurs?
I don't understand this question. How can someone be treated if they haven't been busted with possession or dealing yet? exactly. you answered it your self. The fact that they haven't been busted already is as much a problem as the crack babies are an issue |
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Edited by
Leigh2154
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Fri 05/02/14 06:49 AM
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What do you think? A slippery slope? Opening up the possibility of civil liberties violations is always a slippery slope...That's why the ALCU, many health care providers, and some women's groups are protesting...Haslam understands and even agrees with their arguments against the new law, but he feels it is worth a try because of Tennessee high rate of births to drug addicted women and the horrific effects that addiction imposes on these children...The good news is Governor Haslam is placing a two year limit on the law in order to monitor the impact on families...The charge is assault if a pregnant woman takes a narcotic during her pregnancy and the baby is born addicted, is harmed by, or dies as a result...Criminal charges can be avoided if the woman completes a state treatment program... Even though the Tennessee bill is the first to criminalize drug use among pregnant women, other states have been prosecuting addicted pregnant women for years under different kinds of laws...For example, Alabama's Supreme Court recently ruled that women can be prosecuted under their state's chemical endangerment law if they use drugs during their pregnancy...So what Tennessee is doing is really not new, it's just specific...Draconian or humanitarian...Hopefully the two year test period will produce some positive results, especially for the unborn babies... WHOOOOAAAAA here wait! Did I miss something?  Tennessee is the first state where it is a crime for a pregnant woman to be a user? That is ALREADY a crime..if she's using she can go to jail regardless of the out come of the pregnancy
I understand the nuance of what you're saying is different .... but let's not forget this is a crime already 
Yeah Sweet, that's what I said, Tennessee is the first to write and pass a specific law, BUT states have been prosecuting pregnant addicts for years....Read it again... 
I am fully aware of what you wrote thank you yes I know that Tennesee is not the first to criminalize this drug use is what I am saying ... I mean this is not new. it already is a crime with or without the pregnancy. I only mentioned as a clarification (and as I said I understand your nuance) because it is not like states have been letting pregnant women go unprosecuted like some special class could we do as well with other kinds of "illegals" 
You're welcome... 
Whatever anyone takes from Tennessee's new law, it sends a message...I read that 17 states are now considering the same, enacting laws that specifically target pregnant women who use narcotics ....I don't know if it is going to change much (and somehow I doubt it will), but I do commend Governor Haslam for being willing to take the heat from "certain" organizations in order to try a more direct approach...For me the issue is about the danger to the fetus and the suffering incurred by innocent and defenseless children...I think "that" trumps the addicts civil liberties... agreed and I guess that is where the nuance lies....their civil liberties already prohibit that activity. Why aren't they already being prosecuted BEFORE they get pregnant or whenever their illegal activity occurs? Perhaps this law simply enables authorities to address addiction in a new way using a newborn child as evidence of addiction. If they are hoping it will spur prevention then they really do not know much about addiction 
Hey you  ...When it comes to drug abuse, Tennessee consistently ranks in the top three nationwide....It's been that way for years...Poor state, perfect environment for meth labs...It's a mess Sweet...Like everyone else in a position to effect change, I think Haslam is just searching for answers to an ever escalating problem...One thing I read is that Tennessee addicts are giving birth to 900 plus addicted or health compromised babies per year!!...It's shocking!....Addicts breeding addicts....
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