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I dont think people in these threads get the point of a protest,,,although it must be posted doznes of times protests are GENERALLY about trying to change a system,, not individuals the JUSTICE system has their own way of 'protesting' criminals, called arrest, prosececution, conviction, and sometimes death the system rarely however 'protests' itself, so citizens/taxpayers who sustain it have to ,,,,,, Isn't it the justice system that is being protested? There's a difference between protesting and robbing, looting, burning, stealing and killing. Maybe that the part we're not getting. I thought the the slogan was blacklivesmatter... I guess they don't if it isn't in a certain defined system. seriously? yes black lives matter, and crime is not a 'system' crime is dealt with in the JUSTICE SYSTEM but the JUSTICE SYSTEM doesn't deal well enough when black lives are ended by police,,,,and seeks too quickly to end black lives |
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I dont think people in these threads get the point of a protest,,,although it must be posted doznes of times protests are GENERALLY about trying to change a system,, not individuals the JUSTICE system has their own way of 'protesting' criminals, called arrest, prosececution, conviction, and sometimes death the system rarely however 'protests' itself, so citizens/taxpayers who sustain it have to ,,,,,, Isn't it the justice system that is being protested? There's a difference between protesting and robbing, looting, burning, stealing and killing. Maybe that the part we're not getting. I thought the the slogan was blacklivesmatter... I guess they don't if it isn't in a certain defined system. seriously? yes black lives matter, and crime is not a 'system' crime is dealt with in the JUSTICE SYSTEM but the JUSTICE SYSTEM doesn't deal well enough when black lives are ended by police,,,,and seeks too quickly to end black lives 10,000 black lives are ended every year and since its not by a white cop they dont matter? |
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I dont think people in these threads get the point of a protest,,,although it must be posted doznes of times protests are GENERALLY about trying to change a system,, not individuals the JUSTICE system has their own way of 'protesting' criminals, called arrest, prosececution, conviction, and sometimes death the system rarely however 'protests' itself, so citizens/taxpayers who sustain it have to ,,,,,, Isn't it the justice system that is being protested? There's a difference between protesting and robbing, looting, burning, stealing and killing. Maybe that the part we're not getting. I thought the the slogan was blacklivesmatter... I guess they don't if it isn't in a certain defined system. seriously? yes black lives matter, and crime is not a 'system' crime is dealt with in the JUSTICE SYSTEM but the JUSTICE SYSTEM doesn't deal well enough when black lives are ended by police,,,,and seeks too quickly to end black lives Then one would think that black lives would seek to stay out of criminal activities and out of the way of the police that are there trying protecting black lives and property. It's obvious that the black lives that are being ended are of the criminal type of black lives. IMO 
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I dont think people in these threads get the point of a protest,,,although it must be posted doznes of times protests are GENERALLY about trying to change a system,, not individuals the JUSTICE system has their own way of 'protesting' criminals, called arrest, prosececution, conviction, and sometimes death the system rarely however 'protests' itself, so citizens/taxpayers who sustain it have to ,,,,,, Isn't it the justice system that is being protested? There's a difference between protesting and robbing, looting, burning, stealing and killing. Maybe that the part we're not getting. I thought the the slogan was blacklivesmatter... I guess they don't if it isn't in a certain defined system. seriously? yes black lives matter, and crime is not a 'system' crime is dealt with in the JUSTICE SYSTEM but the JUSTICE SYSTEM doesn't deal well enough when black lives are ended by police,,,,and seeks too quickly to end black lives 10,000 black lives are ended every year and since its not by a white cop they dont matter? oh good lord of course they matter, thats why the JUSTICE system is so quick to persecute black folks, whehter they kill white folks or black folks the justice system will hold black people accountable for killing blacks that is NOT AN ISSUE but its somehow much less likely they hold a COP (any race) accountable when they kill unarmed black men,,,, |
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I dont think people in these threads get the point of a protest,,,although it must be posted doznes of times protests are GENERALLY about trying to change a system,, not individuals the JUSTICE system has their own way of 'protesting' criminals, called arrest, prosececution, conviction, and sometimes death the system rarely however 'protests' itself, so citizens/taxpayers who sustain it have to ,,,,,, Isn't it the justice system that is being protested? There's a difference between protesting and robbing, looting, burning, stealing and killing. Maybe that the part we're not getting. I thought the the slogan was blacklivesmatter... I guess they don't if it isn't in a certain defined system. seriously? yes black lives matter, and crime is not a 'system' crime is dealt with in the JUSTICE SYSTEM but the JUSTICE SYSTEM doesn't deal well enough when black lives are ended by police,,,,and seeks too quickly to end black lives 10,000 black lives are ended every year and since its not by a white cop they dont matter? oh good lord of course they matter, thats why the JUSTICE system is so quick to persecute black folks, whehter they kill white folks or black folks the justice system will hold black people accountable for killing blacks that is NOT AN ISSUE but its somehow much less likely they hold a COP (any race) accountable when they kill unarmed black men,,,, Ms Harmony... The lord has nothing to do with this.. Don't you think that the community that loses 10,000 people that are usually between the ages of 16 and 24 should be doing everything possible to stop the killing? The reality is... Ms Harmony... that when the cops and the justice system come along those 10,000 have already been buried.. |
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msharmony
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I dont think people in these threads get the point of a protest,,,although it must be posted doznes of times protests are GENERALLY about trying to change a system,, not individuals the JUSTICE system has their own way of 'protesting' criminals, called arrest, prosececution, conviction, and sometimes death the system rarely however 'protests' itself, so citizens/taxpayers who sustain it have to ,,,,,, Isn't it the justice system that is being protested? There's a difference between protesting and robbing, looting, burning, stealing and killing. Maybe that the part we're not getting. I thought the the slogan was blacklivesmatter... I guess they don't if it isn't in a certain defined system. seriously? yes black lives matter, and crime is not a 'system' crime is dealt with in the JUSTICE SYSTEM but the JUSTICE SYSTEM doesn't deal well enough when black lives are ended by police,,,,and seeks too quickly to end black lives 10,000 black lives are ended every year and since its not by a white cop they dont matter? oh good lord of course they matter, thats why the JUSTICE system is so quick to persecute black folks, whehter they kill white folks or black folks the justice system will hold black people accountable for killing blacks that is NOT AN ISSUE but its somehow much less likely they hold a COP (any race) accountable when they kill unarmed black men,,,, Ms Harmony... The lord has nothing to do with this.. Don't you think that the community that loses 10,000 people that are usually between the ages of 16 and 24 should be doing everything possible to stop the killing? The reality is... Ms Harmony... that when the cops and the justice system come along those 10,000 have already been buried.. y do you assume to know what a community you are not a part of is trying to do about such a 'community' problem? the reality is,, there is more than one problem in any community/household/city/nation at any time and there is no reason that one has to pick one and then lose the right to care about any other |
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I dont think people in these threads get the point of a protest,,,although it must be posted doznes of times protests are GENERALLY about trying to change a system,, not individuals the JUSTICE system has their own way of 'protesting' criminals, called arrest, prosececution, conviction, and sometimes death the system rarely however 'protests' itself, so citizens/taxpayers who sustain it have to ,,,,,, Isn't it the justice system that is being protested? There's a difference between protesting and robbing, looting, burning, stealing and killing. Maybe that the part we're not getting. I thought the the slogan was blacklivesmatter... I guess they don't if it isn't in a certain defined system. seriously? yes black lives matter, and crime is not a 'system' crime is dealt with in the JUSTICE SYSTEM but the JUSTICE SYSTEM doesn't deal well enough when black lives are ended by police,,,,and seeks too quickly to end black lives 10,000 black lives are ended every year and since its not by a white cop they dont matter? oh good lord of course they matter, thats why the JUSTICE system is so quick to persecute black folks, whehter they kill white folks or black folks the justice system will hold black people accountable for killing blacks that is NOT AN ISSUE but its somehow much less likely they hold a COP (any race) accountable when they kill unarmed black men,,,, Ms Harmony... The lord has nothing to do with this.. Don't you think that the community that loses 10,000 people that are usually between the ages of 16 and 24 should be doing everything possible to stop the killing? The reality is... Ms Harmony... that when the cops and the justice system come along those 10,000 have already been buried.. y do you assume to know what a community you are not a part of is trying to do about such a 'community' problem? the reality is,, there is more than one problem in any community/household/city/nation at any time and there is no reason that one has to pick one and then lose the right to care about any other I know that most communities support and are thankful of having their police officers. Police that do a very dangerous job everyday. |
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Edited by
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I dont think people in these threads get the point of a protest,,,although it must be posted doznes of times protests are GENERALLY about trying to change a system,, not individuals the JUSTICE system has their own way of 'protesting' criminals, called arrest, prosececution, conviction, and sometimes death the system rarely however 'protests' itself, so citizens/taxpayers who sustain it have to ,,,,,, Isn't it the justice system that is being protested? There's a difference between protesting and robbing, looting, burning, stealing and killing. Maybe that the part we're not getting. I thought the the slogan was blacklivesmatter... I guess they don't if it isn't in a certain defined system. seriously? yes black lives matter, and crime is not a 'system' crime is dealt with in the JUSTICE SYSTEM but the JUSTICE SYSTEM doesn't deal well enough when black lives are ended by police,,,,and seeks too quickly to end black lives Then one would think that black lives would seek to stay out of criminal activities and out of the way of the police that are there trying protecting black lives and property. It's obvious that the black lives that are being ended are of the criminal type of black lives. IMO crimnal black lives should matter as much as criminal white lives thats like telling people that a woman who shoved a man and got beat to death,, that she shouldnt have shoved him of course she shouldnt have shoved him,, but does doing what she shouldnt justify her dying? no neither does an unarmed citizen breaking a law justify being shot dead |
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I dont think people in these threads get the point of a protest,,,although it must be posted doznes of times protests are GENERALLY about trying to change a system,, not individuals the JUSTICE system has their own way of 'protesting' criminals, called arrest, prosececution, conviction, and sometimes death the system rarely however 'protests' itself, so citizens/taxpayers who sustain it have to ,,,,,, Isn't it the justice system that is being protested? There's a difference between protesting and robbing, looting, burning, stealing and killing. Maybe that the part we're not getting. I thought the the slogan was blacklivesmatter... I guess they don't if it isn't in a certain defined system. seriously? yes black lives matter, and crime is not a 'system' crime is dealt with in the JUSTICE SYSTEM but the JUSTICE SYSTEM doesn't deal well enough when black lives are ended by police,,,,and seeks too quickly to end black lives 10,000 black lives are ended every year and since its not by a white cop they dont matter? oh good lord of course they matter, thats why the JUSTICE system is so quick to persecute black folks, whehter they kill white folks or black folks the justice system will hold black people accountable for killing blacks that is NOT AN ISSUE but its somehow much less likely they hold a COP (any race) accountable when they kill unarmed black men,,,, Ms Harmony... The lord has nothing to do with this.. Don't you think that the community that loses 10,000 people that are usually between the ages of 16 and 24 should be doing everything possible to stop the killing? The reality is... Ms Harmony... that when the cops and the justice system come along those 10,000 have already been buried.. y do you assume to know what a community you are not a part of is trying to do about such a 'community' problem? the reality is,, there is more than one problem in any community/household/city/nation at any time and there is no reason that one has to pick one and then lose the right to care about any other I know that most communities support and are thankful of having their police officers. Police that do a very dangerous job everyday. [/quote I agree. but I know there are also communities who have a corrupt police department who bully and intimidate more than they serve and protect police that add to and aggravate the danger that is already in the community |
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I dont think people in these threads get the point of a protest,,,although it must be posted doznes of times protests are GENERALLY about trying to change a system,, not individuals the JUSTICE system has their own way of 'protesting' criminals, called arrest, prosececution, conviction, and sometimes death the system rarely however 'protests' itself, so citizens/taxpayers who sustain it have to ,,,,,, Isn't it the justice system that is being protested? There's a difference between protesting and robbing, looting, burning, stealing and killing. Maybe that the part we're not getting. I thought the the slogan was blacklivesmatter... I guess they don't if it isn't in a certain defined system. seriously? yes black lives matter, and crime is not a 'system' crime is dealt with in the JUSTICE SYSTEM but the JUSTICE SYSTEM doesn't deal well enough when black lives are ended by police,,,,and seeks too quickly to end black lives 10,000 black lives are ended every year and since its not by a white cop they dont matter? oh good lord of course they matter, thats why the JUSTICE system is so quick to persecute black folks, whehter they kill white folks or black folks the justice system will hold black people accountable for killing blacks that is NOT AN ISSUE but its somehow much less likely they hold a COP (any race) accountable when they kill unarmed black men,,,, Ms Harmony... The lord has nothing to do with this.. Don't you think that the community that loses 10,000 people that are usually between the ages of 16 and 24 should be doing everything possible to stop the killing? The reality is... Ms Harmony... that when the cops and the justice system come along those 10,000 have already been buried.. y do you assume to know what a community you are not a part of is trying to do about such a 'community' problem? the reality is,, there is more than one problem in any community/household/city/nation at any time and there is no reason that one has to pick one and then lose the right to care about any other I don't assume anything. I live in a community that has rampant black on black crime and I am very privy to what the local black community leaders are doing. So you can put that card back in your pocket. I am not talking about more than one issue I am talking about why protesting 300 deaths by cops per year means more than the 10,000 of which 93% of them are killed by other blacks seems to mean so little.. So try answering that question.. |
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you use the word 'systemic',,, I don't think you Seems pretty systematic to me....young black men killing each other regularly in cites where Democrats have been in charge for decades. If you dont see the relevance, I cant help you. know what that word means,,lol As for the rest of your post that that quote comes from....its the same ol drivel....without any attention made to the thousands of dead black people who kill each other every year.....But yea yea i know....its so much easier to focus on a handful of bad white cops. |
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what 'local' black leaders do you refer to? politicians?
that not part of the 'community' community is the family and the worker bees that live daily amongst or go into the community regularly to address its issues and are affected daily by their neighbors try explaining how to 'protest' criminals? who is the protest directed at and what is the objective? criminals aren't concerned with others or with laws, noone is paying them to uphold any type of standards, they are INDEPENDENT contractors the LEGAL SYSTEM, on the other hand, are supposed to be held to and financially supported for the purpose of STANDARDS but what can be done and is done, is to create programs to reestablish the self esteem of our youth, to give them positive examples and images of their potential, to expose them to a COMPETITIVE education, and encourage them to participate in activities that are health and education oriented as many black communities are doing, to offset the negative impact of violence, drugs, alcohol, and even prostitution that many of their children are absorbing everyday all around them,,,, you cant 'protest' crime, you can only be proactive in doing things to minimize how often people choose it and maximize the number of other options for them to choose from |
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you use the word 'systemic',,, I don't think you Seems pretty systematic to me....young black men killing each other regularly in cites where Democrats have been in charge for decades. If you dont see the relevance, I cant help you. know what that word means,,lol As for the rest of your post that that quote comes from....its the same ol drivel....without any attention made to the thousands of dead black people who kill each other every year.....But yea yea i know....its so much easier to focus on a handful of bad white cops. nope you just have the tunnel vision to disregard that whites kill whites too,, that's not a SYSTEM, there is no central standard, or regulations, or pay scale,,,,lol its not a system instead, crime is a part of life that always has and always will exist, in all races and communities |
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what 'local' black leaders do you refer to? politicians? that not part of the 'community' community is the family and the worker bees that live daily amongst or go into the community regularly to address its issues and are affected daily by their neighbors try explaining how to 'protest' criminals? who is the protest directed at and what is the objective? criminals aren't concerned with others or with laws, noone is paying them to uphold any type of standards, they are INDEPENDENT contractors the LEGAL SYSTEM, on the other hand, are supposed to be held to and financially supported for the purpose of STANDARDS but what can be done and is done, is to create programs to reestablish the self esteem of our youth, to give them positive examples and images of their potential, to expose them to a COMPETITIVE education, and encourage them to participate in activities that are health and education oriented as many black communities are doing, to offset the negative impact of violence, drugs, alcohol, and even prostitution that many of their children are absorbing everyday all around them,,,, you cant 'protest' crime, you can only be proactive in doing things to minimize how often people choose it and maximize the number of other options for them to choose from How about showing support for the police instead of accusing them as killers. Police are no different than anyone else, they treat others as they are treated and respond in the same way. Believe it or not Ms police are humans too. |
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what 'local' black leaders do you refer to? politicians? that not part of the 'community' community is the family and the worker bees that live daily amongst or go into the community regularly to address its issues and are affected daily by their neighbors try explaining how to 'protest' criminals? who is the protest directed at and what is the objective? criminals aren't concerned with others or with laws, noone is paying them to uphold any type of standards, they are INDEPENDENT contractors the LEGAL SYSTEM, on the other hand, are supposed to be held to and financially supported for the purpose of STANDARDS but what can be done and is done, is to create programs to reestablish the self esteem of our youth, to give them positive examples and images of their potential, to expose them to a COMPETITIVE education, and encourage them to participate in activities that are health and education oriented as many black communities are doing, to offset the negative impact of violence, drugs, alcohol, and even prostitution that many of their children are absorbing everyday all around them,,,, you cant 'protest' crime, you can only be proactive in doing things to minimize how often people choose it and maximize the number of other options for them to choose from How about showing support for the police instead of accusing them as killers. Police are no different than anyone else, they treat others as they are treated and respond in the same way. Believe it or not Ms police are humans too. how about getting the blinders off of your eyes and realizing that BECAUSE police are human first and just like criminals are human, it doesnt mean they get blanket 'support when they mess up, like criminals are held accountable, so too should they be held accountable they can be flawed, they can be criminal, they can be ANYTHING other citizens can be and we need to WEED out those who abuse their power by taking/maiming unarmed citizens , and all those police who want support should be helping to do that too,,, the same way black communities are asked to address their 'problems' police is a community with its problems too, and they need to address them |
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what 'local' black leaders do you refer to? politicians? that not part of the 'community' community is the family and the worker bees that live daily amongst or go into the community regularly to address its issues and are affected daily by their neighbors try explaining how to 'protest' criminals? who is the protest directed at and what is the objective? criminals aren't concerned with others or with laws, noone is paying them to uphold any type of standards, they are INDEPENDENT contractors the LEGAL SYSTEM, on the other hand, are supposed to be held to and financially supported for the purpose of STANDARDS but what can be done and is done, is to create programs to reestablish the self esteem of our youth, to give them positive examples and images of their potential, to expose them to a COMPETITIVE education, and encourage them to participate in activities that are health and education oriented as many black communities are doing, to offset the negative impact of violence, drugs, alcohol, and even prostitution that many of their children are absorbing everyday all around them,,,, you cant 'protest' crime, you can only be proactive in doing things to minimize how often people choose it and maximize the number of other options for them to choose from How about showing support for the police instead of accusing them as killers. Police are no different than anyone else, they treat others as they are treated and respond in the same way. Believe it or not Ms police are humans too. how about getting the blinders off of your eyes and realizing that BECAUSE police are human first and just like criminals are human, it doesnt mean they get blanket 'support when they mess up, like criminals are held accountable, so too should they be held accountable they can be flawed, they can be criminal, they can be ANYTHING other citizens can be and we need to WEED out those who abuse their power by taking/maiming unarmed citizens , and all those police who want support should be helping to do that too,,, the same way black communities are asked to address their 'problems' police is a community with its problems too, and they need to address them How about making a rational argument. You are the one with blinders and tunnel vision. Try not believing everything you hear on the media. That might help you...some. 
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what 'local' black leaders do you refer to? politicians? that not part of the 'community' community is the family and the worker bees that live daily amongst or go into the community regularly to address its issues and are affected daily by their neighbors try explaining how to 'protest' criminals? who is the protest directed at and what is the objective? criminals aren't concerned with others or with laws, noone is paying them to uphold any type of standards, they are INDEPENDENT contractors the LEGAL SYSTEM, on the other hand, are supposed to be held to and financially supported for the purpose of STANDARDS but what can be done and is done, is to create programs to reestablish the self esteem of our youth, to give them positive examples and images of their potential, to expose them to a COMPETITIVE education, and encourage them to participate in activities that are health and education oriented as many black communities are doing, to offset the negative impact of violence, drugs, alcohol, and even prostitution that many of their children are absorbing everyday all around them,,,, you cant 'protest' crime, you can only be proactive in doing things to minimize how often people choose it and maximize the number of other options for them to choose from How about showing support for the police instead of accusing them as killers. Police are no different than anyone else, they treat others as they are treated and respond in the same way. Believe it or not Ms police are humans too. how about getting the blinders off of your eyes and realizing that BECAUSE police are human first and just like criminals are human, it doesnt mean they get blanket 'support when they mess up, like criminals are held accountable, so too should they be held accountable they can be flawed, they can be criminal, they can be ANYTHING other citizens can be and we need to WEED out those who abuse their power by taking/maiming unarmed citizens , and all those police who want support should be helping to do that too,,, the same way black communities are asked to address their 'problems' police is a community with its problems too, and they need to address them How about making a rational argument. You are the one with blinders and tunnel vision. Try not believing everything you hear on the media. That might help you...some. enlighten me please? what was not rational about my argument? to restate, btw, my argument is,,, cops should not be above the law the justice system should weed out cops who batter or kill unarmed citizens, just like they would hold citizens accountable the justice system seems to value black lives less than others, considering how much MORE LIKELY black criminals are to be killed than their white counterparts (and the comparison has to made based upon their proportion amongst criminals, not amongst the population of the us) considering how much more likely black criminals are to go to death row and considering how much more likely cops are to shoot an unarmed black male than others ,, now,, what is irrational about that exactly? |
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there is no central standard, or regulations, or El Oh El....call it whatever you want.....and let these black communities keep doing the same things they have been doing for decades and expecting a different result....when in reality, the result will still be black youths kiling more black youths......and a word will continue to NOT be spoken about it.
pay scale,,,,lol its not a system |
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what 'local' black leaders do you refer to? politicians? that not part of the 'community' community is the family and the worker bees that live daily amongst or go into the community regularly to address its issues and are affected daily by their neighbors try explaining how to 'protest' criminals? who is the protest directed at and what is the objective? criminals aren't concerned with others or with laws, noone is paying them to uphold any type of standards, they are INDEPENDENT contractors the LEGAL SYSTEM, on the other hand, are supposed to be held to and financially supported for the purpose of STANDARDS but what can be done and is done, is to create programs to reestablish the self esteem of our youth, to give them positive examples and images of their potential, to expose them to a COMPETITIVE education, and encourage them to participate in activities that are health and education oriented as many black communities are doing, to offset the negative impact of violence, drugs, alcohol, and even prostitution that many of their children are absorbing everyday all around them,,,, you cant 'protest' crime, you can only be proactive in doing things to minimize how often people choose it and maximize the number of other options for them to choose from How about showing support for the police instead of accusing them as killers. Police are no different than anyone else, they treat others as they are treated and respond in the same way. Believe it or not Ms police are humans too. how about getting the blinders off of your eyes and realizing that BECAUSE police are human first and just like criminals are human, it doesnt mean they get blanket 'support when they mess up, like criminals are held accountable, so too should they be held accountable they can be flawed, they can be criminal, they can be ANYTHING other citizens can be and we need to WEED out those who abuse their power by taking/maiming unarmed citizens , and all those police who want support should be helping to do that too,,, the same way black communities are asked to address their 'problems' police is a community with its problems too, and they need to address them How about making a rational argument. You are the one with blinders and tunnel vision. Try not believing everything you hear on the media. That might help you...some. enlighten me please? what was not rational about my argument? to restate, btw, my argument is,,, cops should not be above the law the justice system should weed out cops who batter or kill unarmed citizens, just like they would hold citizens accountable the justice system seems to value black lives less than others, considering how much MORE LIKELY black criminals are to be killed than their white counterparts (and the comparison has to made based upon their proportion amongst criminals, not amongst the population of the us) considering how much more likely black criminals are to go to death row and considering how much more likely cops are to shoot an unarmed black male than others ,, now,, what is irrational about that exactly? Ms, sorry but I am truly under the impression there is no way possible to enlighten you. 
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nice non answer
nah, no enlightenment in threads that are mostly about belittlement and criticism,,,, but I will continue to fulfill my desire for enlightenment though other means 'Whether they are from within ourselves, or from outside of ourselves, The Forces that hold us down must be challenged. '... Minister Farrakhan |
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