Topic: Book: Divergent
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Mon 09/07/15 09:22 PM


To make amends of past mistakes on the board:

I want to share to all Minglers the Faction Manifesto from the
Divergent Book.

As usual, I can only borrow words from people I admire,
in this case from Veronica Roth.

Taken verbatim from the Divergent book.


ERUDITE: THE INTELLIGENT (Faction Manifesto)

We submit the the following Statements of Truth:

1. "Ignorance" is defined not as stupidity but as lack of knowledge.

2. Lack of knowledge inevitably leads to lack of understanding.

3. Lack of understanding leads to disconnect among people with differences.

4. Disconnection among people with differences leads to conflict.

5. Knowledge is the only logical solution to the problem of conflict.



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Mon 09/07/15 09:23 PM


Therefore, we propose that in order to eliminate conflict, we must eliminate the disconnect among those with differences by correcting the lack of understanding that arises from ignorance with knowledge. The areas in which people must be educated are:

Sociology: So the individual understands how society at large functions.

Psychology: So that the individual understands how a person functions within that society.

Mathematics: So that the individual is prepared for further study in science, engineering, medicine
and technology.

Science: So that the individual better understands how the world operates. So that the individual's study in other areas is supplemented.
So that as many individuals as possible are prepared to enter tghe fields devoted to innovation and progress.

Communication:
So that the individual knows how to speak and write clearly and effectively.

History:
So that the individual understands the mistakes and successes that have led us to this point.
So that the individual learns to emulate those successes and avoid mistakes.



( More to follow the other 3 Faction Manifesto)

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Mon 09/07/15 10:24 PM

Candor: The Honest (Faction Manifesto)

1. Dishonesty is rampant. Dishonesty is temporary. Dishonesty makes evil possible.

2. Dishonesty leads to suspicion. Suspicion leads to conflict. Honestly leads to peace.

3. Truth makes us transparent. Truth makes us strong. Truth makes us inextricable.


Abnegation: The Selfless (Faction Manifesto)


I will be my undoing
If I become my obsession.

I will forget the ones I love
If I do not serve them.

I will war with others
If I refuse to see them.

Therefore I choose to turn away
From my reflection,
To rely no on myself
But on my brothers and sisters,
To project always outward
Until I disappear.


Dauntless: The Brave (Faction Manifesto)

We believe that cowardice is to blame for the world's injustices.

We believe that the peace is hard-won, that sometimes it is necessary to fight
for peace..

But more than that:

We believe that justice is more than peace.

We believe in freedom from fear, in denying fear the powers to influence our decisions.

We believe in ordinary acts of bravery, in the courage that drives one person to stand up for another.
We believe in acknowledging fear and the extent to which it rules us.

We believe in facing that fear no matter what the cost to our comfort, our happiness, or even our sanity.

We believe in shouting for those who can only whisper, in defending those who cannot defend themselves.

We believe not just in words but in bold deeds to match them.

- (not relevant)

We do not believe that silence is useful.

We do not believe in good manners.

We do not believe in limiting the fullness of life.

We do not believe on empty heads, empty mouths, or empty hands.

We do not believe that learning to master violence encourages unnecessary violence.

We do not believe that we should be allowed to stand idly by.

we do not believe that any other virtue is more important than bravery.

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Mon 09/07/15 11:04 PM

Amity: The Peaceful (Faction Manifesto)

Self-Sufficiency
A daughter says to her Father: "Father, today I fought with my friend."
Her Father says: "Why did you fight with your friend?"
"Because she insulted me, and I was angry."
"Why were you angry?"
"Because she lied about me." (In some versions: Because I was hurt by her words.")
"My daughter, did your friend's words change who you are?"
'No."
"Then do not be angry. The opinions of others cannot damage you."


Forgiveness
A Husband says to his Wife: "Wife, today I fought with my enemy."
His Wife says:"Why did you fight with your enemy?'
"Because I hate him."
"My husband, why do you hate him?"
"Because he wronged me."
"The wrong is past. You must let it rest where it lies."

Kindness
A Wife says to her Husband: " Husband, today I fought with my enemy."
Her husband says: "Why did you fight with your enemy?"
"Because I spoke cruel words to her?"
"Because I believed them to be true."
Then you must no longer think cruel thoughts. Cruel thoughts lead to cruel words,
and hurt you as much as they hurt their target."



( I took the liberty of removing Trust Manifesto & Involvement Manifesto
All words are from Veronica Roth the author)

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Tue 09/08/15 07:11 PM
I want to share to all Minglers the Faction Manifesto from the
Divergent Book.

Why?


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Tue 09/08/15 10:02 PM

I want to share to all Minglers the Faction Manifesto from the
Divergent Book.

Why?



At the risk of hijacking this thread, please consider this as a:

Factioless Manifesto
(Words not by Veronica Roth but by a fan)

Why?
1. Because my 2nd posted topic in my entire mingle experience was deleted, because I broke rules to defend 2 people I put on the spot,
just because I make assumptions base on my emotions.
Result: I fu@k it more up.

2. I need to let people know that I deserved to be disciplined because I broke the rules.
And I am not afraid to post another topic just because my 2nd posted topic was a disaster.
My way of saying I always choose to do the right thing and conquer my fear.


Why Divergent Book? Why Veronica Roth's Words?

While majority of people here in mingle have faith, The Bible, People they are Hooked up with, long time friends and God, -

I have my music (some people brand me a satanist because of my music choices), my books, my personal set of standards, principles and myself.

Yesterday after reading through the forum .. I finally understand in a way "why" majority of the people reacted that way.
What leads to the confusion? And why I can't blame them for arriving into that conclusion.

After reading the last chapters of Divergent, there are bonus materials : The Faction Manifesto
I like it very much. It reminded me of Mingle personalities.

It helps me in deciphering people in Mingle, instead of lumping them as bad intentioned or good intentioned.
I was hoping in a way, that by sharing it in the forum, that in a technical level, it will encourage people to hold judgement
base on what is presented and would give time for other people to present themselves correctly.

RESULT? (My basis on this opinion is after reading threads right now here in the forum)

Too many newbies..new accounts who sounded so familiar.

At the risk of sounding self -righteous right now..
While I understand and even admire people who have 2, and both accounts compliment well with each other,
I know my limits and I will just be confusing myself more.

I am very glad and proud that I only have ONE.
LET ME REPEAT THAT ONE (1) ACCOUNT EVER SINCE I STUMBLED ON MINGLE.
I POSTED ONLY UNDER THIS USERNAME EVER SINCE JULY 25, 2015.
Prior to that date I never posted in any dating website.
Either people believe it or not.
It is up to them.

I do not know anymore how many of you BOTH bad intentions and good intentions will flatter me to the extent
of putting me on a spot by registering as a newbie or an a different name..WASTING YOUR VALUABLE TIME WHEN IT IS REALLY PATHETIC,
DISGUSTINGLY OBVIOUS AND VINDICTIVE. No. I will not give you the satisfaction of saying that you are mental. Because my gut says that
YOU KNEW WHAT YOU ARE DOING.MY QUESTION IS..IS IT REALLY WORTH IT???

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Wed 09/16/15 12:57 PM
Chronic Liar
I just wanted to say
Tqvm for posting this as i can always drop by as a referral if i forget

Just to share, out of all the factions, i adore abnegation the most. Did many tests, i get abnegation often, so happy! Haha

Can't wait for allegiance in March
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