Topic: Believing in Destiny
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Thu 09/07/17 06:29 PM
Is there really destined for.you? what if your tired of falling in love, trusting person.

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Thu 09/07/17 11:20 PM
we fall and get up again...we learn from it and move towards another direction which we never know where it might lead...things always happen for a reason...its destiny

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Fri 09/08/17 12:04 AM

Is there really destined for.you? what if your tired of falling in love, trusting person.


I am open,,but this online thing might have a great profit margin at best.

YES! I do think there is someone out there for us all. Maybe me smashing a card into a wonderful woman is not the spur of the moment thing...but I have to tell you - - its a great thing to do to drum up conversation.

It really does work if your not shy and get sweaty palms like myself.

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Sat 09/09/17 07:52 AM

Is there really destined for.you? what if your tired of falling in love, trusting person.


Very complicated questions.

I think that destiny is far more subtle to include in our concept of our lives than is commonly recognized. The simplest idea of Destiny, is that someone or some thing with power over all of us, has decided in advance, what our lives are to consist of; and perhaps that we each were "designed" to be who we are, precisely so that this "destiny" would occur as planned.

That's really a concept based on the process of story telling, more than anything else. An author decides what ending they want their characters to arrive at, so the author make choices about what their characters like and dislike, what choices they make and so on, so that the ending the author planned, will make sense.

But actual life doesn't (so far as can be proved) have a single author. But there very much are, all sorts of conditions, forces, and influences at work on each of us, including our physiological parentage, the state of the world where we grow up, the actions of each and all of the other people around us, all of which go into sculpting out what is and isn't possible for us to achieve, as well as what our achievements will end up costing us.

Thus, in a way, we do have a "destiny," at least roughly shaped by our circumstances. But it is also always party guided directly by our moment to moment decisions and actions. It's tricky though. Sometimes our "destiny" results from us acting; and sometimes it results from our waiting instead. Very curious.

If you feel you are tired of falling in love, and of trusting others, I can suggest some thoughts to explore. First, think carefully about how you "fall in love." It's common to assume that love always occurs the same way for everyone, because it's fundamental to the nature of human beings to assume we are alike. However, "falling in love" itself, isn't a single or a simple thing. Most of us learn at some point, that just as we can feel a rush of nervousness when we are confronted by danger, that we can also feel the exact same rush of nervousness, when we eat certain foods, or drink an over-stimulating beverage.

In the same way, the sense that we are "falling in love," can occur because we have subconsciously recognized true compatibility and emotional kinship with another person; but it can also occur, seemingly identically, because we feel physical attraction, and then PERSUADE ourselves that the other person is our emotional kin.

Since the sense of falling in love is our REACTION TO OUR PERCEPTIONS, and is not itself love, it is common for people to think they have found true love more often than they actually have. When you find that you are "tired of falling in love," that can actually mean that you are finally ready to make the next step towards clarity, and recognize the difference between the sensational reaction to the possibility of love, is not the most important part of recognizing love itself. So this is actually a good thing for you, even though it may feel as though you are giving up.

Finally, trust. The best way to rebuild trust in others, is to discover and rebuild trust within yourself. I learned this the very hard way, as many do. When you don't trust others with whom you hope to find love, what you ACTUALLY mistrust, isn't them; what you actually mistrust, are your own judgement about them, and about love itself. The best way to rebuild that inner trust, is to rearrange how you live your life, and what limits you place on others in your life, in a way that makes you feel sure you will be alright, regardless of what the other person does.

So get rid of any notions, such as that you prove your love for someone by giving them money, or by overstepping your own moral limits for their sake. Make every decision in your life, on whether or not you personally can enjoy and live with what you are doing, whether it pleases the other people around you or not. This is what a personal sense of security is.

Once you have regained that sense of personal security, and know your boundaries, and TRUST YOURSELF TO ADHERE TO AND DEFEND your boundaries, then you will know by default, what you can trust others to do or to be. You will be able to be relaxed enough to enjoy someone else's company, not so much because you blindly trust THEM, as because you know that YOU will always be happy with what you allow them to do within your life.

Fortunately, that kind of trust, built on your own self-knowledge, is what makes for the best, and longest lasting real love between any people.