Topic: net neutrality ?
mysticalview21's photo
Fri 12/29/17 05:46 PM
Edited by mysticalview21 on Fri 12/29/17 05:48 PM
what do you think about this ...

have you experienced anything ...




I have ... I remember when you wanted a ? answered ...
you would go look it up ... now you get all kinds of sites...
so which do you choose ... and some never give you the answer ...
and some sites now block you ...
go in at your own risks ...this may hurt your computer or
what ever you might be using ... if you use the site ...
that is restricted ... feels to me like a dare laugh
but is still serious...

I have started to see the advertisements ...where there never was before ... do you think it is controlling you and
your on line movement ... an taking free speech away ... leave you with no answer or gives you fake news ...

no photo
Fri 12/29/17 06:20 PM
In my opinion in the last 10 years most major T.V news stations certainly have their own agenda. And major newspapers for the last 50 or so yes have had their own agenda as well

So is there fake news?

absolutely. these entities are sponsors by big business, which in turn rely on lobbyists to front their views. Lobbyists turn to the media... with money.

It is difficult these days to find the "truth", that somehow has been lost in the media.

So yes, the internet directs you to what is wants, to who is paying it. thru pop ups or other means.

In todays world, you need to be smarter then that.

no photo
Fri 12/29/17 06:21 PM
net neutrality... what do you think about this ...

I think crappy service and unfair practices begets greater competition.

I remember when you wanted a ? answered ...
you would go look it up ... now you get all kinds of sites...
so which do you choose ... and some never give you the answer

I'm not sure that has anything to do with "net neutrality."

I think "net neutrality" has more to do with internet service providers manipulating access and speeds to the internet, rather than regulating morality or censorship or advertising business practices on the internet.

Like if Comcast decided people should be reading Huffington Post rather than Drudge Report so anyone visiting Drudge Report started experiencing download speeds like dial up on any site they visited, whereas Huffington Post viewers started experiencing normal or high download/browsing speeds.
Or if Disney paid Verizon to slow download speeds on people watching Netflix, and making sure Disney streaming users never experienced a slowdown.

IMO what you are referring to has more to do with companies like Google that control their own search engine and what results you're shown by using their search engine.
It's not really affecting your access to the internet so much as controlling what they show you by using their service.

If Google could keep you from using Chrome or internet explorer or duckduckgo or some other search engine, that would be in violation of "net neutrality."

I don't think censoring your search using their service is in violation. Only if they keep you from accessing something else on the internet.
I think most search engines censor their results. Especially google, and sites like Facebook.

I don't know all that much about it though.
I've only really read about ISP's controlling access and throttling.


I have started to see the advertisements ...where there never was before

That's another issue entirely.
Sites are constantly looking to monetize the internet.
Most browsers like firefox and ie you can download applications like adblocker to hide advertisements.
But the sites/advertisers figure out their ads are being blocked and come up with ways to circumvent ad blocking software, which drives ad blocking and cookie blocking companies to come up with new ways to hide them.
Sometimes there is a gap and advertisements become more prominent as they figure out new ways to force visitors to see the advertising.

But I don't think it has anything to do with "net neutrality."

mysticalview21's photo
Fri 12/29/17 07:02 PM

net neutrality... what do you think about this ...

I think crappy service and unfair practices begets greater competition.

I remember when you wanted a ? answered ...
you would go look it up ... now you get all kinds of sites...
so which do you choose ... and some never give you the answer

I'm not sure that has anything to do with "net neutrality."

I think "net neutrality" has more to do with internet service providers manipulating access and speeds to the internet, rather than regulating morality or censorship or advertising business practices on the internet.

Like if Comcast decided people should be reading Huffington Post rather than Drudge Report so anyone visiting Drudge Report started experiencing download speeds like dial up on any site they visited, whereas Huffington Post viewers started experiencing normal or high download/browsing speeds.
Or if Disney paid Verizon to slow download speeds on people watching Netflix, and making sure Disney streaming users never experienced a slowdown.

IMO what you are referring to has more to do with companies like Google that control their own search engine and what results you're shown by using their search engine.
It's not really affecting your access to the internet so much as controlling what they show you by using their service.

If Google could keep you from using Chrome or internet explorer or duckduckgo or some other search engine, that would be in violation of "net neutrality."

I don't think censoring your search using their service is in violation. Only if they keep you from accessing something else on the internet.
I think most search engines censor their results. Especially google, and sites like Facebook.

I don't know all that much about it though.
I've only really read about ISP's controlling access and throttling.


I have started to see the advertisements ...where there never was before

That's another issue entirely.
Sites are constantly looking to monetize the internet.
Most browsers like firefox and ie you can download applications like adblocker to hide advertisements.
But the sites/advertisers figure out their ads are being blocked and come up with ways to circumvent ad blocking software, which drives ad blocking and cookie blocking companies to come up with new ways to hide them.
Sometimes there is a gap and advertisements become more prominent as they figure out new ways to force visitors to see the advertising.

But I don't think it has anything to do with "net neutrality."




I believe it is all of that ... what you said also ... with the controlling of speeds ... but do say the media has been monopolized... like a lot of other things have been... over the yrs ... kinda like dictating only what they want you to know ... which may be fake ... one said they realize now ...they can make money of the news ... not just other series or shows too ...

msharmony's photo
Fri 12/29/17 07:15 PM

what do you think about this ...

have you experienced anything ...




I have ... I remember when you wanted a ? answered ...
you would go look it up ... now you get all kinds of sites...
so which do you choose ... and some never give you the answer ...
and some sites now block you ...
go in at your own risks ...this may hurt your computer or
what ever you might be using ... if you use the site ...
that is restricted ... feels to me like a dare laugh
but is still serious...

I have started to see the advertisements ...where there never was before ... do you think it is controlling you and
your on line movement ... an taking free speech away ... leave you with no answer or gives you fake news ...



I just think the quest for more and easier is taking away our soles. We can soon begin to be controlled like robots with programmed information and overreliance on science and technology.

But thats just me.

no photo
Fri 12/29/17 07:34 PM


what do you think about this ...

have you experienced anything ...




I have ... I remember when you wanted a ? answered ...
you would go look it up ... now you get all kinds of sites...
so which do you choose ... and some never give you the answer ...
and some sites now block you ...
go in at your own risks ...this may hurt your computer or
what ever you might be using ... if you use the site ...
that is restricted ... feels to me like a dare laugh
but is still serious...

I have started to see the advertisements ...where there never was before ... do you think it is controlling you and
your on line movement ... an taking free speech away ... leave you with no answer or gives you fake news ...



I just think the quest for more and easier is taking away our soles. We can soon begin to be controlled like robots with programmed information and overreliance on science and technology.

But thats just me.

I can't take it anymore. So who's paying you?