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Topic: Help me understand political people…
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Tue 03/29/22 10:57 AM





It's not hard to find information if you look for it....here is a source, the same source you used about the cost of charging an EV rather than buying gas:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/11/just-39percent-of-americans-could-pay-for-a-1000-emergency-expense.html

I agree it's cheaper to drive an EV a 100 miles compared to gas vehicle. But that doesn't change the fact that most middle and lower income people can't afford an EV. If a person can't afford an EV the cost of charging one is irrelevant which means they have one of two choices. They can quit driving or they can buy gasoline. I actually want to see a future with mostly zero emission vehicles being used.....but I'm more concerned about the present hardships being face by middle and lower income people.

I thought the original whole point of government was to protect people, from enemies both foreign and domestic. While I understand why the federal government has expanded from it's original purpose to improve the lives of people I'm don't like the direction some want the government to go.....and that is making people dependent on government. When adults become a dependent they lose their independence, freedom and control. It's no different than when younger children are more easily controlled when they are more dependent on their parents and as they get older their freedoms increase as their dependence decreases.
I have no problem with helping people who ACTUALLY can't help themselves, my problem is with people who WON'T help themselves and the government enabling people not helping themselves.

I find a lot of things humorous, in fact I find many of the ridiculous things people say on forums humorous, many that aren't worth responding to because of their ridiculousness. I'm not talking about you, if fact I think we would have a spirited conversation if we were to meet in person and find a few things to laugh about. I also respect the fact you haven't resorted to personal insults.


I don’t think I know enough about car prices to comment further. You might be right but when I look up the price of a new 2022 Prius it MsRP for $25000 with 56mpg but a Corolla of the same year goes for $5000 less with 30mpg. Now with most people making car payments wouldn’t the hybrid be a more affordable long term deal? ( I ask because honestly I have never paid more than $3000 for a vehicle and I never bought a vehicle I I couldn’t pay cash for)

I love electric cars but that’s not available to all. The technology is too expensive for most and it is definitely more of a status symbol to own one. As a new Tesla is like $60000. But it’s one of things that if more people got into hybrids and electric (if they can afford it) they sees like it would lessen our dependency on gas and on foreign gas infrastructure. Good right?

I don’t think anyone enjoys a system where people leech off of the rest of us unless you are someone that is leeching. So what you said about certain people taking even though they can earn on their own isn’t a debatable topic. Most I think would agree from lower to upper class but especially lower! You work 8 hours at a shitty job to see someone doing as well or even better than you without doing anything? Hell no!

I’ll equate it to the gun debate. When people try to put restrictions on guns and welfare, the automatic response is that the government is trying to take it all away. So there is such a big push back. When it’s not the topic.

However I think the government has gotten much better with welfare in the black community (even though they could still do much better!) They we’re outright trying to keep blacks dependent on welfare by doing things such as keeping men out of the home and disqualifying homes with certain appliances. It’s bad now but it was much worse before


We probably agree on more things than we disagree.

As for the "hybrid" vehicles that is probably an option for more people than an EV. I actually paid cash for a new 2020 Chevy Traverse (there was a tear on the check I wrote LOL) which I have gotten as much as 34mpg. A smaller "hybrid" vehicle wasn't an option unless I want to give up pulling the boat I use for fishing. I looked at quite a few vehicles before buying one that I felt was the best overall option for my wants and needs.

The gas prices aren't a major issue for me since I drove about 4000 miles between the 2 vehicles (I have a 2002 pickup with 84K I use mostly for hunting) since I bought the Traverse 15 months ago.
My concern with the price of gas isn't for myself, it not a personal problem. My concern is for others....especially younger people, the middle and lower income people.

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