Topic: Weapons of Mass Deception (12 Parts)
mnhiker's photo
Thu 02/21/08 06:04 PM
Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72xDPokb0rg&feature=related

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s77xhrSWK8&feature=related

Part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkD-BSMM-5A&feature=related

Part 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBaumh3Po6E&feature=related

Part 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqIPQO3mrpg&feature=related

Part 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQEr4ccGZOs&feature=related

Part 7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciioRnoRUt4&feature=related

Part 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOwIkIlLfAY

Part 9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgkTOI_NGfg&feature=related

Part 10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgJjhX1ZpUo&feature=related

Part 11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ_a1CNnhe0&feature=related

Part 12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsH_SIokkoo&feature=related

PATSFAN's photo
Thu 02/21/08 06:04 PM
What was that web site again?laugh

no photo
Thu 02/21/08 06:06 PM
The title says it all, your own hijacked Weapons of Mass Deception thrown into one lump of a excess linked piece, which you likely took from another site as well.

mnhiker's photo
Thu 02/21/08 06:09 PM
Edited by mnhiker on Thu 02/21/08 06:10 PM

The title says it all, your own hijacked Weapons of Mass Deception thrown into one lump of a excess linked piece, which you likely took from another site as well.


Why don't you watch the series and judge
for yourself instead of spouting the usual
garbage?

no photo
Thu 02/21/08 06:14 PM
Edited by Starsailor2851 on Thu 02/21/08 06:15 PM
Did you gather all those youtube videos for that series on your own and lay them out in that order, or did a website have that all set up ready for you to copy and paste?

mnhiker's photo
Thu 02/21/08 06:24 PM

Did you gather all those youtube videos for that series on your own and lay them out in that order, or did a website have that all set up ready for you to copy and paste?


I cut and pasted the links in order so that it would be easier for people to link to.

It's information from a different perspective that people are free to view if they wish.

What's your point?

no photo
Thu 02/21/08 06:32 PM


Did you gather all those youtube videos for that series on your own and lay them out in that order, or did a website have that all set up ready for you to copy and paste?


I cut and pasted the links in order so that it would be easier for people to link to.

It's information from a different perspective that people are free to view if they wish.

What's your point?


That the guy who produced the piece is an extremely biased individual with a huge agenda, the exact same thing he claims to be an opponent up. The man is a hypocrite, nothing he produces is as much of a documentary as it is a propagandized political spin piece.

mnhiker's photo
Thu 02/21/08 06:39 PM



Did you gather all those youtube videos for that series on your own and lay them out in that order, or did a website have that all set up ready for you to copy and paste?


I cut and pasted the links in order so that it would be easier for people to link to.

It's information from a different perspective that people are free to view if they wish.

What's your point?


That the guy who produced the piece is an extremely biased individual with a huge agenda, the exact same thing he claims to be an opponent up. The man is a hypocrite, nothing he produces is as much of a documentary as it is a propagandized political spin piece.


So just because he takes on Fox News and the Bush Administration, who raised propagandized political spin pieces to a new art form, are extremely biased and full of hypocrites, not to mention, spin, he's "an extremely biased individual with a huge agenda, the exact same thing he claims to be an opponent up. The man is a hypocrite, nothing he produces is as much of a documentary as it is a propagandized political spin piece."

Where do you get your information, or is that just your personal opinion?

Have you even seen the documentary?

no photo
Thu 02/21/08 06:45 PM
Edited by Starsailor2851 on Thu 02/21/08 06:45 PM




Did you gather all those youtube videos for that series on your own and lay them out in that order, or did a website have that all set up ready for you to copy and paste?


I cut and pasted the links in order so that it would be easier for people to link to.

It's information from a different perspective that people are free to view if they wish.

What's your point?


That the guy who produced the piece is an extremely biased individual with a huge agenda, the exact same thing he claims to be an opponent up. The man is a hypocrite, nothing he produces is as much of a documentary as it is a propagandized political spin piece.


So just because he takes on Fox News and the Bush Administration, who raised propagandized political spin pieces to a new art form, are extremely biased and full of hypocrites, not to mention, spin, he's "an extremely biased individual with a huge agenda, the exact same thing he claims to be an opponent up. The man is a hypocrite, nothing he produces is as much of a documentary as it is a propagandized political spin piece."

Where do you get your information, or is that just your personal opinion?

Have you even seen the documentary?


He does the exact same thing that the others do. Yes, the others do, at times, and you know who I am talking about...Fox.

He is JUST like them and they are JUST like him.

I have seen one of his other documentaries, Mediocracy: Hail to the Thief. Before these heavy political hitjobs he actually did some very good documentaries that lacked the political hitjob. However, he has found it much more PROFITABLE to do documentary hit pieces, right in the same line as Moore to make money off of it.

If anything, Schetcher is WORSE because he attacks the media and makes claims and attacks that can be directed right back at him to paint himself as a copycat.

mnhiker's photo
Thu 02/21/08 07:01 PM
Edited by mnhiker on Thu 02/21/08 07:01 PM





Did you gather all those youtube videos for that series on your own and lay them out in that order, or did a website have that all set up ready for you to copy and paste?


I cut and pasted the links in order so that it would be easier for people to link to.

It's information from a different perspective that people are free to view if they wish.

What's your point?


That the guy who produced the piece is an extremely biased individual with a huge agenda, the exact same thing he claims to be an opponent up. The man is a hypocrite, nothing he produces is as much of a documentary as it is a propagandized political spin piece.


So just because he takes on Fox News and the Bush Administration, who raised propagandized political spin pieces to a new art form, are extremely biased and full of hypocrites, not to mention, spin, he's "an extremely biased individual with a huge agenda, the exact same thing he claims to be an opponent up. The man is a hypocrite, nothing he produces is as much of a documentary as it is a propagandized political spin piece."

Where do you get your information, or is that just your personal opinion?

Have you even seen the documentary?


He does the exact same thing that the others do. Yes, the others do, at times, and you know who I am talking about...Fox.

He is JUST like them and they are JUST like him.

I have seen one of his other documentaries, Mediocracy: Hail to the Thief. Before these heavy political hitjobs he actually did some very good documentaries that lacked the political hitjob. However, he has found it much more PROFITABLE to do documentary hit pieces, right in the same line as Moore to make money off of it.

If anything, Schetcher is WORSE because he attacks the media and makes claims and attacks that can be directed right back at him to paint himself as a copycat.


I don't know too much about the man other than he produced the documentary and have no knowledge of his profit motives so I'm not going to comment on them or his character.

But does that mean the information presented in the documentary is irrelevant?

Have you watched this documentary so you can decide for yourself one way or the other whether or not it's irrelevant?

Well we both agree about Fox News, anyway.

no photo
Thu 02/21/08 07:08 PM






Did you gather all those youtube videos for that series on your own and lay them out in that order, or did a website have that all set up ready for you to copy and paste?


I cut and pasted the links in order so that it would be easier for people to link to.

It's information from a different perspective that people are free to view if they wish.

What's your point?


That the guy who produced the piece is an extremely biased individual with a huge agenda, the exact same thing he claims to be an opponent up. The man is a hypocrite, nothing he produces is as much of a documentary as it is a propagandized political spin piece.


So just because he takes on Fox News and the Bush Administration, who raised propagandized political spin pieces to a new art form, are extremely biased and full of hypocrites, not to mention, spin, he's "an extremely biased individual with a huge agenda, the exact same thing he claims to be an opponent up. The man is a hypocrite, nothing he produces is as much of a documentary as it is a propagandized political spin piece."

Where do you get your information, or is that just your personal opinion?

Have you even seen the documentary?


He does the exact same thing that the others do. Yes, the others do, at times, and you know who I am talking about...Fox.

He is JUST like them and they are JUST like him.

I have seen one of his other documentaries, Mediocracy: Hail to the Thief. Before these heavy political hitjobs he actually did some very good documentaries that lacked the political hitjob. However, he has found it much more PROFITABLE to do documentary hit pieces, right in the same line as Moore to make money off of it.

If anything, Schetcher is WORSE because he attacks the media and makes claims and attacks that can be directed right back at him to paint himself as a copycat.


I don't know too much about the man other than he produced the documentary and have no knowledge of his profit motives so I'm not going to comment on them or his character.

But does that mean the information presented in the documentary is irrelevant?

Have you watched this documentary so you can decide for yourself one way or the other whether or not it's irrelevant?

Well we both agree about Fox News, anyway.


If you say "does that mean the information presented in the documentary is irrelvant?" I can ask the same thing to you about Fox. I have not watched this particular documentary, like I am sure you haven't watched documentaries like Obsession, Michael Moore Hates America, or FahrenHype 9/11 to name a few.

However, I have watched movies like Freedom to Fascism (an anti-IRS film) and have watched Mediocracy: Haill to the Thief, the second one which I had to watch for a class and the first I was asked to watch it by a progressive. I have also seem the 9/11 Truth movie and the Zeigest one numerous times, and a few other movies of the anarchists, progressives, or other leftists.

mnhiker's photo
Thu 02/21/08 07:23 PM







Did you gather all those youtube videos for that series on your own and lay them out in that order, or did a website have that all set up ready for you to copy and paste?


I cut and pasted the links in order so that it would be easier for people to link to.

It's information from a different perspective that people are free to view if they wish.

What's your point?


That the guy who produced the piece is an extremely biased individual with a huge agenda, the exact same thing he claims to be an opponent up. The man is a hypocrite, nothing he produces is as much of a documentary as it is a propagandized political spin piece.


So just because he takes on Fox News and the Bush Administration, who raised propagandized political spin pieces to a new art form, are extremely biased and full of hypocrites, not to mention, spin, he's "an extremely biased individual with a huge agenda, the exact same thing he claims to be an opponent up. The man is a hypocrite, nothing he produces is as much of a documentary as it is a propagandized political spin piece."

Where do you get your information, or is that just your personal opinion?

Have you even seen the documentary?


He does the exact same thing that the others do. Yes, the others do, at times, and you know who I am talking about...Fox.

He is JUST like them and they are JUST like him.

I have seen one of his other documentaries, Mediocracy: Hail to the Thief. Before these heavy political hitjobs he actually did some very good documentaries that lacked the political hitjob. However, he has found it much more PROFITABLE to do documentary hit pieces, right in the same line as Moore to make money off of it.

If anything, Schetcher is WORSE because he attacks the media and makes claims and attacks that can be directed right back at him to paint himself as a copycat.


I don't know too much about the man other than he produced the documentary and have no knowledge of his profit motives so I'm not going to comment on them or his character.

But does that mean the information presented in the documentary is irrelevant?

Have you watched this documentary so you can decide for yourself one way or the other whether or not it's irrelevant?

Well we both agree about Fox News, anyway.


If you say "does that mean the information presented in the documentary is irrelvant?" I can ask the same thing to you about Fox. I have not watched this particular documentary, like I am sure you haven't watched documentaries like Obsession, Michael Moore Hates America, or FahrenHype 9/11 to name a few.

However, I have watched movies like Freedom to Fascism (an anti-IRS film) and have watched Mediocracy: Haill to the Thief, the second one which I had to watch for a class and the first I was asked to watch it by a progressive. I have also seem the 9/11 Truth movie and the Zeigest one numerous times, and a few other movies of the anarchists, progressives, or other leftists.


I have watched Fox News and O'Reilly's 'No Spin' zone. That's a misnomer if there ever was one. And it's obviously biased and spinning as hard as a typhoon.

But why defend Fox when you just wrote "He does the exact same thing that the others do. Yes, the others do, at times, and you know who I am talking about...Fox."?

I find it interesting how you lump progressives in with anarchists and leftists.

There's a big difference between hating Bush Administration policies (as a progressive would) and wanting to overthrow the government (as an anarchist would advocate), don't you think?

You've already formed a biased opinion about the documentary without even watching it.

no photo
Thu 02/21/08 07:33 PM








Did you gather all those youtube videos for that series on your own and lay them out in that order, or did a website have that all set up ready for you to copy and paste?


I cut and pasted the links in order so that it would be easier for people to link to.

It's information from a different perspective that people are free to view if they wish.

What's your point?


That the guy who produced the piece is an extremely biased individual with a huge agenda, the exact same thing he claims to be an opponent up. The man is a hypocrite, nothing he produces is as much of a documentary as it is a propagandized political spin piece.


So just because he takes on Fox News and the Bush Administration, who raised propagandized political spin pieces to a new art form, are extremely biased and full of hypocrites, not to mention, spin, he's "an extremely biased individual with a huge agenda, the exact same thing he claims to be an opponent up. The man is a hypocrite, nothing he produces is as much of a documentary as it is a propagandized political spin piece."

Where do you get your information, or is that just your personal opinion?

Have you even seen the documentary?


He does the exact same thing that the others do. Yes, the others do, at times, and you know who I am talking about...Fox.

He is JUST like them and they are JUST like him.

I have seen one of his other documentaries, Mediocracy: Hail to the Thief. Before these heavy political hitjobs he actually did some very good documentaries that lacked the political hitjob. However, he has found it much more PROFITABLE to do documentary hit pieces, right in the same line as Moore to make money off of it.

If anything, Schetcher is WORSE because he attacks the media and makes claims and attacks that can be directed right back at him to paint himself as a copycat.


I don't know too much about the man other than he produced the documentary and have no knowledge of his profit motives so I'm not going to comment on them or his character.

But does that mean the information presented in the documentary is irrelevant?

Have you watched this documentary so you can decide for yourself one way or the other whether or not it's irrelevant?

Well we both agree about Fox News, anyway.


If you say "does that mean the information presented in the documentary is irrelvant?" I can ask the same thing to you about Fox. I have not watched this particular documentary, like I am sure you haven't watched documentaries like Obsession, Michael Moore Hates America, or FahrenHype 9/11 to name a few.

However, I have watched movies like Freedom to Fascism (an anti-IRS film) and have watched Mediocracy: Haill to the Thief, the second one which I had to watch for a class and the first I was asked to watch it by a progressive. I have also seem the 9/11 Truth movie and the Zeigest one numerous times, and a few other movies of the anarchists, progressives, or other leftists.


I have watched Fox News and O'Reilly's 'No Spin' zone. That's a misnomer if there ever was one. And it's obviously biased and spinning as hard as a typhoon.

But why defend Fox when you just wrote "He does the exact same thing that the others do. Yes, the others do, at times, and you know who I am talking about...Fox."?

I find it interesting how you lump progressives in with anarchists and leftists.

There's a big difference between hating Bush Administration policies (as a progressive would) and wanting to overthrow the government (as an anarchist would advocate), don't you think?

You've already formed a biased opinion about the documentary without even watching it.


I lumped them together, not to say their beliefs and goals are one in the same, but to say how each side has put forth some very opinonated pieces out over the years they claim as golden but are highly questionable productions.

I defended Fox because I like the channel and watch it regularly, for they do present the news, just like CNN and MSNBC, it is after 8PM, like the other stations, that opinion shows get airtime. I watch CNN and MSNBC quite often as well, I'm a flipper among them.

If I have time tomorrow, with this snow coming, I may watch this documentary as I have somehow found the strength to get through others like it. We shall see.

mnhiker's photo
Thu 02/21/08 10:04 PM









Did you gather all those youtube videos for that series on your own and lay them out in that order, or did a website have that all set up ready for you to copy and paste?


I cut and pasted the links in order so that it would be easier for people to link to.

It's information from a different perspective that people are free to view if they wish.

What's your point?


That the guy who produced the piece is an extremely biased individual with a huge agenda, the exact same thing he claims to be an opponent up. The man is a hypocrite, nothing he produces is as much of a documentary as it is a propagandized political spin piece.


So just because he takes on Fox News and the Bush Administration, who raised propagandized political spin pieces to a new art form, are extremely biased and full of hypocrites, not to mention, spin, he's "an extremely biased individual with a huge agenda, the exact same thing he claims to be an opponent up. The man is a hypocrite, nothing he produces is as much of a documentary as it is a propagandized political spin piece."

Where do you get your information, or is that just your personal opinion?

Have you even seen the documentary?


He does the exact same thing that the others do. Yes, the others do, at times, and you know who I am talking about...Fox.

He is JUST like them and they are JUST like him.

I have seen one of his other documentaries, Mediocracy: Hail to the Thief. Before these heavy political hitjobs he actually did some very good documentaries that lacked the political hitjob. However, he has found it much more PROFITABLE to do documentary hit pieces, right in the same line as Moore to make money off of it.

If anything, Schetcher is WORSE because he attacks the media and makes claims and attacks that can be directed right back at him to paint himself as a copycat.


I don't know too much about the man other than he produced the documentary and have no knowledge of his profit motives so I'm not going to comment on them or his character.

But does that mean the information presented in the documentary is irrelevant?

Have you watched this documentary so you can decide for yourself one way or the other whether or not it's irrelevant?

Well we both agree about Fox News, anyway.


If you say "does that mean the information presented in the documentary is irrelvant?" I can ask the same thing to you about Fox. I have not watched this particular documentary, like I am sure you haven't watched documentaries like Obsession, Michael Moore Hates America, or FahrenHype 9/11 to name a few.

However, I have watched movies like Freedom to Fascism (an anti-IRS film) and have watched Mediocracy: Haill to the Thief, the second one which I had to watch for a class and the first I was asked to watch it by a progressive. I have also seem the 9/11 Truth movie and the Zeigest one numerous times, and a few other movies of the anarchists, progressives, or other leftists.


I have watched Fox News and O'Reilly's 'No Spin' zone. That's a misnomer if there ever was one. And it's obviously biased and spinning as hard as a typhoon.

But why defend Fox when you just wrote "He does the exact same thing that the others do. Yes, the others do, at times, and you know who I am talking about...Fox."?

I find it interesting how you lump progressives in with anarchists and leftists.

There's a big difference between hating Bush Administration policies (as a progressive would) and wanting to overthrow the government (as an anarchist would advocate), don't you think?

You've already formed a biased opinion about the documentary without even watching it.


I lumped them together, not to say their beliefs and goals are one in the same, but to say how each side has put forth some very opinonated pieces out over the years they claim as golden but are highly questionable productions.

I defended Fox because I like the channel and watch it regularly, for they do present the news, just like CNN and MSNBC, it is after 8PM, like the other stations, that opinion shows get airtime. I watch CNN and MSNBC quite often as well, I'm a flipper among them.

If I have time tomorrow, with this snow coming, I may watch this documentary as I have somehow found the strength to get through others like it. We shall see.


Fair enough. I try to keep an open mind. I know people like Michael Moore have their own agendas but, just like the little boy in the story who said 'the Emperor has no clothes', there has to be someone who will give the public something other than Right-wing biased news and spin.

I watch the local Fox news affiliate sometimes and the news is relatively spin-free except on Sunday when they unleash Britt Hume, Bill Kristol and the other right-wing pundits.

I've been reading about Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers, and how the American public probably wouldn't have known the extent the United States was involved in Vietnam if not for him.

Nixon was furious and tried to destroy him for revealing the truth.