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[ Probability of life forming from inanimate matter? Very high when factored by time. Just the right time has no meaning when one measures time... Giving the know time that exists 'just the right time' would have occured 'in time'. Single celled creature would naturally become more comples... over time. Every one of the questions above can be answered 'in due time'. Yet God is greater than time... so I must agree... It is most plausible that there is an intelligent creator of the Universe... And yet, this allegedly omnipotent creator needs the obedience, worship and money of and from human beings or gets all mad and destroys things in a fit of pique when "He" doesn't get what he wants? Sounds to me a sock puppet for Believers who simply MUST have only the best Creator in their court. -Kerry O. In the top religions of the world god is perceived as a spoiled male of the human species. I wonder why that is? Rhetorically asking of course. The answer reminds me of a woman-to-woman birthday card I saw about 10 years ago. Front: It's your birthday. Do whatever you want today. Think only of yourself. Talk only about yourself. Inside: You know, act like a guy. I dunno, patriarchal religions just sit better with most people, I think. I'd guess that most people feel that a female deity would either have to be a soft touch that was way too lenient to be a kick-*** God or a total ***** that would have destroyed the world 50 times over. -Kerry O. |
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[ Probability of life forming from inanimate matter? Very high when factored by time. Just the right time has no meaning when one measures time... Giving the know time that exists 'just the right time' would have occured 'in time'. Single celled creature would naturally become more comples... over time. Every one of the questions above can be answered 'in due time'. Yet God is greater than time... so I must agree... It is most plausible that there is an intelligent creator of the Universe... And yet, this allegedly omnipotent creator needs the obedience, worship and money of and from human beings or gets all mad and destroys things in a fit of pique when "He" doesn't get what he wants? Sounds to me a sock puppet for Believers who simply MUST have only the best Creator in their court. -Kerry O. |
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Reminding lustful Christians in bars on Saturday night that just because the barstools aren't teak pews and there are no stained glass windows DOESN'T mean that Jesus isn't still watching them. :)
-Kerry o. |
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atheism and death
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Mr. Gregor: Death is full of surprises. George Lass: You have no idea. Jesus Christ, Mr. Gregor just this instant had an idea. Why did George say that Mr. Gregor had no idea? He`d just come out with it!! So who wrote this horribly ineffectual (in the logics sense) playÉ More importantly, who didn't watch the movie or the series? Context is your friend. -Kerry O. |
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Being he's pulled himself out of bankrupcy everytime. That's the whole idea behind bankruptcy-- PROTECTION from one's creditors while one tries to extricate themselves from their financial follies or bad bets. And each time Trump did this, people with whom he had CONTRACTUAL relationships LOST MILLIONS. Finally, they kicked him out the CEO's seat. 'You're FIRED' indeed! I guess they had enough, and the Three Strikes You're Out Rule finally knocked him out of the batter's box. I dunno, it looks to me like he's now trying to wrangle out a political base on balls. Only explanation *I* can think of... -Kerry O. |
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i think i would vote for obama than trump...if thats the best the republicans can produce...  im sincerely shocked,, there is still hope  why would anyone want someone with NO experience what so ever as president?... i feel the republicans can do better than that... besides palin... Trumps got more experience then Obama Bin Laden and we would be lucky to have him as President. I don't see how. Obama's got two degrees to Trump's one. Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School, was a constitutional law professor at University of Chicago, a three-time state senator, a U.S. Senator, and now, POTUS. Trump, as far as I know, NEVER held public office, was CEO of what was essentially a gambing casino company that went bust and since has been more active as an entertainer on TV than anything else. Personally, I think Trmup's chances at the Republican nomination are DOA. It's all a publicity stunt to burnish his image, which will help him to self-promote himself and media products. It sure isn't going to do anything for the man in the street. -Kerry O. |
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atheism and death
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Mr. Gregor: Death is full of surprises.
George Lass: You have no idea. (From the opening scene of Dead Like Me- Life After Death) "I wasted time, now time doth waste me". -William Shakespeare -Kerry O. |
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Edited by
KerryO
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Sat 04/09/11 06:55 AM
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One of the dirty little secrets of the progressive agenda is population reduction in order to "save" the planet. The "green" movement or as I like to call it "more green in pockets of the leftist elite" has pushed the poorest nations on the brink of a humanitarian catastrophe.. "The inconvenient truth is that the total human population must stop growing and then decrease, if we are to have any chance in the long run of preserving our environment, having a decent level of living in a resource-depleted world, and avoiding an uncontrolled collapse of population like that experienced by some past civilizations." http://maryland.sierraclub.org/newsletter/archives/2008/03/a_003.asp I added this in case anyone wants to dispute my comments.. As opposed to 'dirty little secrets' in the ultra-conservative agenda subscribed to by groups like Quiverfull of keeping women barefoot, pregnant and down on the plantation? From their webpage, this mission statement: Dedicated to providing encouragement and practical help to those who are striving to raise a large and growing, godly family in today's world! Trees never grow into heaven, and growth always has a limit. Especially when the only 'plan' it has is faith in some absent deity making everything all right when reality rears its ugly head. I really think the OP's campaign against progressivism will be hoisted on its own extremist petard in this thread. -Kerry O. |
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CEO Pay Rises 27% in 2010..
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I think we all need to remember: Every a Democrat casts a vote the Tea Partiers don't like, God kills a kitten. Oh, and for every day that goes by without Obama showing his REAL birth certificate, gas will go up another penny/gal. It says so on the Internet, so it MUST be TRUE!! -Kerry O. i didn't know about the kitten thing... thats terrible, the democrats hate kittens!!! thnx for the post, and opening my eyes on how hateful the libs are towards kittens   Really. If this keeps up, there won't be any cat houses left to relieve Republican men of the stress that goes with the heavy burden of being the only patriots left to wield power over the little people in the middle class. There could be dire consequences... DIRE consequences!!! Recently there was an article quoting Newt Gingrich's as saying that although his infidelities were mistakes, it was only natural that they'd occur because of all the pressure he was under being so highly placed in government. "I regret that I have only 1 wife to give for my country"?? -Kerry O. |
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CEO Pay Rises 27% in 2010..
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I think we all need to remember: Every a Democrat casts a vote the Tea Partiers don't like, God kills a kitten.
Oh, and for every day that goes by without Obama showing his REAL birth certificate, gas will go up another penny/gal. It says so on the Internet, so it MUST be TRUE!! -Kerry O. |
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what God would an unbeliever have? money? is it,, capitalism? Why does an Unbeliever even _need_ a god? One can always find a higher purpose for one's life in seeking to make the world a better place and by bequeathing one's ancestors a world that is freer from pain and suffering. IMHO, that's closer to the sublime than anything written in the Bible, with its regimented authoritarianism and frequent bloodletting. And that humanity is its own Alpha and Omega, that one can find, in one's fellowship with her fellow humans, an inner peace and lovingkindness missing from the worship of that one can never touch and truly know. Never in the bible was it similarly written, "Any man's death diminishes me, for I am involved in mankind; and therefore, never send to know for whom the bell tolls- it tolls for thee." -Kerry O. |
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I think the birthers should file all kinds of lawsuits. This is an important issue, and I would hate to think that we had an illegitimate President just because nobody bothered to challenge him in court. That would be worse than having a President who was simply appointed by the Supreme Cpurt. I suspect this will start the whole issue rolling again, and I hope the Far Right does a Don Quixote on this for all it's worth(lessness). I just goes to show how out-to-lunch they are, not to mention how gullible, desperate and in denial many of them are. I doubt even Fox News and the big-name talking heads like Ann Coulter are going to get sucked in by this fake, but it IS interesting to see just who will stand and salute this false-flag caper. -Kerry O. |
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I suspect the original source just wanted to chum the waters for Far Right sharks, and it looked like it produced a feeding frenzy as predicted.
Some of these Far Right extremist websites remind me of the definition of saint in Ambrose Bierce's The Devil's Dictionary: Saint, n., A dead sinner, revised and edited. -Kerry O. |
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It's a hoax.
The editing used to create it was extremely poor and the sources spreading this across the Internet have been dishonestly removing the disclaimer from the original source saying that it was indeed a manufactured farce. But hey, if you want to take this to court, by all means do. Get the Freedom Troopers to swear on a stack of Bibles that it's true. Watch as they then get slapped with abuse of process when the technical experts reveal this cheap piece of propaganda for what it is-- a lie. -Kerry O. |
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Every big company invests in public relations. Koch Industries is very much in need of some good will. $1 million is pocket change fpr Koch Industries. $1 million is .03571% ofKoch Industries" net operating earnings in 1993. $1 million is less than 1 second's of profit earned by Koch Industries in 1993. I just have to laugh a little at your inability to give any credit where credit is due... Did your momma never tell you "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all?" Really? Really? I kinda feel sorry for ya. So, when Bill Clinton campaigned for Haitian Earthquake victims, you said nice things about him? Yes? How about George Soros? Goose. Gander. -Kerry O. When I can't say anything nice... Well, you know how it goes. Ah, but the _real_ question is why Clinton and Soros' humanitarian efforts would likely never earn praise from people with certain biases. Just a guess, but I'd say it was because to some points of view, their philanthropy doesn't cancel out what that which the viewpoint perceives as NOT nice. Maybe some people view the Koch's union-busting and politics-for-personal-gain tactics as being not so nice, and question their motives when it comes to their philanthropy. BTW, the Mennonites pretty much invented the 'If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything' principle. And THEY have little in common with the Koch's and usually avoid politics like the plague. -Kerry O. |
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Topic:
Advice for the Poor
Edited by
KerryO
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Fri 03/25/11 06:37 PM
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I did not nay say nor did I give opinions. My reply was you saying you read something somewhere was not a reliable source of information was fact. I was not referring to your post about Warren Buffet, that came after the fact. If you asked anyone if a post from some random person on an internet forum was reliable I am sure the consensus would be no. I am trying to bring some realism to what you are posting. You are saying how horrible everything is for anyone that is not the top 1% and making it seem as if everyone not in that 1% is poor. Neither of those cases are true. I have plenty of friends and family doing just fine, making good money, etc and they are no where near that 1%. Those are the points I am trying to make. Well, I just think your hoised yourself on your own petard. Who are these 'plenty of friends and family' and how do we know they aren't the same random voices that don't represent a majority of the population? Second, if you want to talk about keeping it real, don't misquote me. I most certainly did NOT say that everything is horrible for the 99% who are not the 1%, I said that that same 1% has had the proverbial times of their financial lives. Sort of like Nero fiddling while Rome burns. Here's the exact quote from me: I read somewhere recently that the top 1% saw their wealth in 2010 increase at a rate that surpasses any recorded since records began being kept. Never has the old lament that 'The Rich get richer, the poor get poorer" ever been more literally true. An entirely different meaning from what you've twisted my words to say. Whereas I've quoted Buffet, you've quoted whom? And by your own admission, you're haven't even been in the country for a while. Indeed, mnay not even be in country as you post this! Ergo, you're getting ALL your information from 'reading it somewhere'. 'Somewhere' that is NOT _here_. Do you know what's happening to property values in places like Cleveland and Detroit? How they are hemmorhaging population, How entire neighborhoods are becoming ghost towns? Just the fact that GM, once the acclaimed gold standard of American manufacturing might, has seen all the value of its stock evaporate into nothing while the CEO pay on Wall Street is still at monstorous levels should be a data point. Add to that the unconscionable price manipulation by The Few that's happening now with crude oil. Throw in the practice by rich folks who 'flipped' houses and welched on their 'bets' by turning the keys back into the bank when those investment went 'underwater'. Then tell me why the other 99% shouldn't be MAD AS HELL with what some of the top 1% has wrought. Gordon Gecko, we hardly knew ye. -Kerry O. I didn't misquote I was paraphrasing. I used this quote too. There's always Google if one wants to find the statistics. If you pay me to do the research, I'll be glad to supply you with reliable statistics. With corporate profits up and unemployment still stuck close to 10%, it's pretty clear that many of us are being asked to do more work for the same or less money. American productivity is at an all-time high, yet wages are stagnant, and every year we are asked to pay more for health insurance, food and gas. Someone's reaping the benefit of that. And it's not the bottom 99%, is it? It seems that you were lumping everyone not in the top 1% together. I also never said you said that. I merely said they are not the same. If it is not what you meant then you could have stated that wasnt what you meant. I was only making it clear to everyone here they are not the same. My friends are making good money with their engineering jobs be in in Louisiana, NY, CO, etc. My sister, Father, cousin, etc are also doing well. You don't need to be the top 1% to increase your personal wealth. I have done it this past year. Its just called saving money. Yes some people are struggling. There is a 10% unemployment rate but that means close to 90% employment. It just isnt as bad as you are making it out to be. I don't even know where to start. No only did you NOT paraphrase me, you misattributed my words above to yourself. Maybe it was sloppy formatting, but it makes the conversation that ACTUALLY happened impossible to follow. I'd have to check your age in your profile, but I'd say I'm roughly double your age. Even in past recessions, I've never seen interest on my savings go to almost zero percent. Nor have I seen the _real_ unemployment rate go as high either. And even during the Arab oil embargo of the 70's, there wasn't the kind of crude oil volatility there is today. Not to mention oil peaking waaay above $100/ barrel. I'm quoting this from memory, but I think it was around $140/ barrel. ( Don't shoot me. Anyone interested in the exact number can Google it.) -Kerry O. |
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This is the main problem that opponents of the "Bible" have. It is only them and a few "believers" who claim God wrote it. The rest of the world realises that it was written by man. I however, will not discount that it was "inspired" by God... Ok, so god _didn't_ write the 10 Commandments on stone tablets and give them to Moses? Moses made them up, then? Or was taking dictation with a sculpting tools? And if god did write them ( or even he dictated them to Moses), it's pretty obvious by one of them that he has no problem with slavery and human bondage. We don't even have to get into that the Bible says Jesus is God The Son, so when the Bible quotes him, what's that all about? -Kerry O. |
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Every big company invests in public relations. Koch Industries is very much in need of some good will. $1 million is pocket change fpr Koch Industries. $1 million is .03571% ofKoch Industries" net operating earnings in 1993. $1 million is less than 1 second's of profit earned by Koch Industries in 1993. I just have to laugh a little at your inability to give any credit where credit is due... Did your momma never tell you "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all?" Really? Really? I kinda feel sorry for ya. So, when Bill Clinton campaigned for Haitian Earthquake victims, you said nice things about him? Yes? How about George Soros? Goose. Gander. -Kerry O. |
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What non-believers can show is that in every instance, the claims could have easily been made up, and there's really no reason to accept them at face value. have you considered that the new testament writers were not looking forward to having a "book" that contained all of their writings. did they know that what they wrote would be attached to other writings. did they gather at one place and decide how to intertwine all their stories No, and the contradictions in the stories, one from the next, show that. But according to dogma, _God_ was the nexus for the so called Truth. So, how could an omniscient being fail to cross all the t's and dot all the i's for a work which he is supposed to have ghostwritten? -Kerry O. |
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Topic:
Advice for the Poor
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I did not nay say nor did I give opinions. My reply was you saying you read something somewhere was not a reliable source of information was fact. I was not referring to your post about Warren Buffet, that came after the fact. If you asked anyone if a post from some random person on an internet forum was reliable I am sure the consensus would be no. I am trying to bring some realism to what you are posting. You are saying how horrible everything is for anyone that is not the top 1% and making it seem as if everyone not in that 1% is poor. Neither of those cases are true. I have plenty of friends and family doing just fine, making good money, etc and they are no where near that 1%. Those are the points I am trying to make. Well, I just think your hoised yourself on your own petard. Who are these 'plenty of friends and family' and how do we know they aren't the same random voices that don't represent a majority of the population? Second, if you want to talk about keeping it real, don't misquote me. I most certainly did NOT say that everything is horrible for the 99% who are not the 1%, I said that that same 1% has had the proverbial times of their financial lives. Sort of like Nero fiddling while Rome burns. Here's the exact quote from me: I read somewhere recently that the top 1% saw their wealth in 2010 increase at a rate that surpasses any recorded since records began being kept. Never has the old lament that 'The Rich get richer, the poor get poorer" ever been more literally true. An entirely different meaning from what you've twisted my words to say. Whereas I've quoted Buffet, you've quoted whom? And by your own admission, you're haven't even been in the country for a while. Indeed, mnay not even be in country as you post this! Ergo, you're getting ALL your information from 'reading it somewhere'. 'Somewhere' that is NOT _here_. Do you know what's happening to property values in places like Cleveland and Detroit? How they are hemmorhaging population, How entire neighborhoods are becoming ghost towns? Just the fact that GM, once the acclaimed gold standard of American manufacturing might, has seen all the value of its stock evaporate into nothing while the CEO pay on Wall Street is still at monstorous levels should be a data point. Add to that the unconscionable price manipulation by The Few that's happening now with crude oil. Throw in the practice by rich folks who 'flipped' houses and welched on their 'bets' by turning the keys back into the bank when those investment went 'underwater'. Then tell me why the other 99% shouldn't be MAD AS HELL with what some of the top 1% has wrought. Gordon Gecko, we hardly knew ye. -Kerry O. |
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