And like i said...you need to show the evidence by concrete data through proper standardized methodology in research.

Whether it works or not, by your account, you cant justify your idea of homeopathy as being "the mysteriousness of it".

Not the same language...

Water is water. If you have it blessed by a priest, you get holy water. But it's still H2O.

Water is still water...nothing mysterious.
There is no memory. Just something diluted in it. The bonds are not broken. The solute is not integrated into water molecule. If it does not have an ionic charge, it is just suspended in it. If it does have an ionic charge, it forms a buffer system. I have explained this before regarding pH and polarity in my previous post.

Here are dilution ratio concepts. The only memory involved, is memorizing the formula. Homeopathy should look into it and use it to make viable and proper research methodology. Not attribute a living concept into a non living material, and expect basic and applied research sciences to take it seriously...

Using Dilution Factors

To make a dilute solution without calculating concentrations, you can rely on a derivation of the above formula:
(Final Volume / Solute Volume) = Dilution Factor (can also be used with mass)

This way of expressing a dilution as a ratio of the parts of solute to the total number or parts is common in biology. The dilution factor (DF) can be used alone or as the denominator of the fraction, for example a DF of 10 means a 1:10 dilution, or 1 part solute + 9 parts diluent, for a total of 10 parts. This is different than a “dilution ratio,” which typically refers to a ratio of the parts of solute to the parts of solvent, for example a 1:9 using the previous example. Dilution factors are related to dilution ratios in that the DF equals the parts of solvent + 1 part.

Example: Make 300 uL of a 1:250 dilution
Formula: Final Volume / Solute Volume = DF
Plug values in: (300 uL) / Solute Volume = 250
Rearrange: Solute Volume = 300 uL / 250 = 1.2 uL
Answer: Place 1.2 uL of the stock solution into 300 uL – 1.2 uL = 298.8 uL diluent.

Step Dilutions

If the dilution factor is larger than the final volume needed, or the amount of stock is too small to be pipetted, one or more intermediary dilutions may be required. Use the formula: Final DF = DF1 * DF2 * DF3 etc., to choose your step dilutions such that their product is the final dilution.

Example: Make only 300 uL of a 1:1000 dilution, assuming the smallest volume you can pipette is 2 uL
Choose step DFs: Need a total dilution factor of 1000. Let’s do a 1:10 followed by a 1:100 (10 * 100 = 1000)
Formula: Final Volume / Solute Volume = DF
Plug values in: (300 uL) / Solute Volume = 10
Rearrange: Solute Volume = 300 uL / 250 = 30 uL.
Answer: Perform a 1:10 dilution that makes at least 30 uL (e.g. 4 uL solute into 36 uL diluent), then move 30 uL of the mixed 1:10 into 300 uL – 30 uL = 270 uL diluent to perform the 1:100 dilution.

Serial Dilutions

A dilution series is a succession of step dilutions, each with the same dilution factor, where the diluted material of the previous step is used to make the subsequent dilution. This is how standard curves for ELISA can be made.

I did some research and found that the homeopathic medicines are mostly non-regulated because they are too diluted with water to be harmful. If the produce can be sold "over the counter" then a person could buy it anyway without a prescription. "Freedom of speech" gives a lot of leeway in "claims of effectiveness", even without any proof of effectiveness.


In Great Britain ...

From Wiki:

"In February 2010 the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee concluded that: "the NHS should cease funding homeopathy. It also concludes that the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) should not allow homeopathic product labels to make medical claims without evidence of efficacy. As they are not medicines, homeopathic products should no longer be licensed by the MHRA." Part of the conclusions state that "When the NHS funds homeopathy, it endorses it. Since the NHS Constitution explicitly gives people the right to expect that decisions on the funding of drugs and treatments are made 'following a proper consideration of the evidence', patients may reasonably form the [misleading] view [inferred from the fact of any NHS financial support] that homeopathy is an evidence-based treatment." Since no evidence of benefit was found – other than the placebo effect – the report's recommendation was that "The Government should stop allowing the funding of homeopathy on the NHS."[44] The government stated that this decision would be left open to the Primary Care Trusts, the smaller bodies in charge of regional NHS management, instead of being done by the government itself.[45] In June 2010, the British Medical Association voted three to one in favour of a motion that homeopathy should be banned from the NHS, and kept from being sold as medicine in pharmacies.[46] In February 2011, out of 104 Primary Care Trusts who responded to queries, 72 said they did not fund homeopathy, with 10 of these having stopped funding homeopathy in the last four years.[47] By the 2011/12 financial year the percentage of PCTs funding homeopathy had fallen to 15%.[48]

In July 2013 the UK Advertising Standards Authority concluded that homeopathy sellers were engaging in false advertising regarding their claims of efficacy of homeopathic products and that at the same time they discouraged users from seeking essential treatments for conditions for which they were needed."

Apparently claims, such are "The water remembers the signature of the drug" in a dilute form that no longer contains any of the drug, work because there are enough gullible people in existence who don't know any better.

Hence, the "memory" of water that seems to mystefy you so much in homeopathy..

...is called "dilution" in science...

That is what you were looking for, right? The scientific reason behind the mystery of water..

I know that. But like I said, gotta present the data and the science behind it.

Some of your above statements are covered by immunology and rheumatology, separately and in conjunction.

Homeopathy uses concepts explained by these two clinical sciences. Not the other way around.

Water is not only fantastic, it's also essential. But it's not all that mysterious... Except maybe in homeopathy...

Psychopaths and Criminals will always be able to procure Firearms!
All your Idea will cause is the Disarming of the Lawabiding Citizen!

You are extremely far off!

1. If the methods of homeopathy really can be proven, homeopathic experts would demonstrate the evidence just for the sake of proving it works -- for the sake of curing patients. No challenge is needed to be posed or accepted.

2. It would be favorable for homeopathic practitioners to conduct randomized double blinded studies to make appropriate headway in the medical community.

3. Even if common treatment methods used in homeopathy can be shown to have positive end-results through studies, experimentation is still needed to uncover the physiologic basis behind it, in order to be acceptable to the basic and applied sciences community. If you really are interested in defending the entire practice of homeopathy, it behooves you to present your evidence and data. Not simply sell an idea.

4. I know that you are not a homeopathic practitioner 24/7, but i will go by what you claim. In your 10 years +/- of practice, what illnesses have you treated mostly?

5. have you ever thought of another possibility that involved other factors for the curing effect you have seen, aside from the idea of water 'remembering'? Have you done experimental research yourself in what you practice?Because that is essential in all sciences, and i am not sure if you really view water "memory" as a science or as a philosophy to begin with when you posed your original question.

6. Do you have your clients sign waiver forms before they undergo homeopathic treatments? If so, what is included in it? For ethico-legal concerns, since you mentioned fraudulent activities.

'cause no one so far has been stupid enough to waste time on something like that!

Heehee...that was such a cute video...nice refresher course... thanks MW

Ok, i get the polarity part.

You are right, it is the electron that changes pH value...not the polarity. Buffer systems have always been my weak point.

Anyway...this is what I know...

Amount of free H+ makes a solution acidic
Amount of free OH- makes a solution alkaline
This is the reason why H2O is the best solute/solvent for any acid or base. (H+)+(OH-)=HOH=H2O..and all that jazz...

The body is made up of 75% water, with varying pH levels depending on where it is and how the body is handling it.

Water also has a polarity that enables other ions to dissolve in it well. Whether it's (+) or (-). And this will relate to its tonicity in various compartments in the body.

It is these properties that make water important even in homeopathy.
Maybe OP's idea of "memory" in water is related to these? IDK.

That being said, im not a big fan of the concept of homeopathy. I even view some of its treatment methods radically dangerous. But, i will not discount the usefulness of certain principles of it indiscriminately for two reasons.
1 process of desensitization in certain illnesses.
2 since the body is also composed of lipids and proteins as well, you would need a compatible "cure" to get into the specific parts of the body. (ie. Fat soluble vs water soluble vs transport and carrier proteins)

But obviously, water in itself is neutral.
You can't cure a drowning man by adding more water into his body...

(to OP - im no expert on water, and correct me if i'm wrong, but I think the "mystery" you are fixated with relates more on the philosophy and emotions evoked by the physical properties of water, not the science behind it)

Now, i want to reiterate my question. Why and how is it that some drinking water is marketed as alkaline? Not unless they add some substance or process to increase the free (OH-). But then, that would mean it's not just H2O in a bottle. Right?

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Water memory Claims Under certain circumstances water can retain a "memory" of solute particles after arbitrarily large dilution.

Related scientific disciplines Chemistry, Medicine
Year proposed 1988
Original proponents Jacques Benveniste
Subsequent proponents Madeleine Ennis
Brian Josephson
Luc Montagnier
Various homeopaths
Pseudoscientific concepts

Water memory is the proposed ability of water to retain a memory of substances previously dissolved even after an arbitrary number of serial dilutions. It is claimed to be the mechanism by which homeopathic remedies work, even though they are diluted to the point that no single molecule of the original substance remains. Water memory defies conventional scientific understanding of physical chemistry knowledge and is not accepted by the scientific community. In 1988, Jacques Benveniste published a study supporting a water memory effect amid controversy in Nature, accompanied by an editorial by Nature's editor John Maddox urging readers to "suspend judgement" until the results could be replicated. In the years following publication, multiple supervised experiments were run by Benveniste's team, the United States Department of Defense, BBC's Horizon program, and other researchers, but no team has ever reproduced Benveniste's results in controlled conditions.

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Where do you think all these weapons are coming from?

Iran is the number one sponsor of State terror in the world.