You can't really know someone until you spend real time with them. The problem with LD relationships is that there is no way to have that casual beginning of getting to know someone with no pressure. There's no chance to date before deciding if this is a relationship you want to commit to. A plane trip IS a commitment of sorts. As opposed to a cup of coffee or a beer and some dinner.

Of course, I see it work here from time to time, but it has never worked for me. It may be that my situation is different and I blame the LD part when there are other factors involved. Nonetheless, I cannot see myself attempting an LDR again.

Let's just say we're going without her...she'll show up

same time zone for you...good for a few dayer perhaps

I bust out a shamoo dork and it's STILL not enough for "some".

and what are you trying to say Joy?